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Hot doc: Cheney's request to declassify intel from 'torture' (White House, CIA Lied)
Politico ^ | 04/23/09 | Josh Gerstein

Posted on 04/24/2009 1:53:36 PM PDT by Big_Monkey

Former Vice President Dick Cheney is asking the Obama administration to declassify two documents on intelligence obtained from the so-called enhanced interrogation program that critics have decried as torture, according to a copy of his request obtained by POLITICO.

The form filed with the National Archives' Presidential Libraries section on March 31 of this year shows that Cheney asked for declassification review of the two items from a folder called "detainees" within "OVP Cheney immediate office files." The titles of the memoranda or reports were blacked out for classification reasons, however, one memo sought was dated July 13, 2004, and totaled eight pages, and another dated June 1, 2005, totals 13 pages.

Cheney filled out the request himself--it's in his handwriting. The Archives later amended Cheney's request to describe the two records simply as CIA reports (probably more vaguely than the ex-veep did). The archvists also upped the page counts to a total of 31.

I'm looking further at those dates to see whether we can identify the documents indpendently. However, June 1, 2005 seems to coincide with a time frame involving a lot of action surrounding the legal justifications for the interrogation program. One Justice Department memo released last week, finding the techniques did not constitute torture under international law, was issued on May 30, 2005, just a day before the document Cheney asked for.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigtime; memo; terror; torture; waronterror
White House Press Secretary and Chief of Staff, and the CIA all said Cheney did NOT request these additional memos be made public. Cheney clearly made the request on March 31, 2009 with the National Archives.
1 posted on 04/24/2009 1:53:36 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: holdonnow; Fudd Fan; sono; tiredoflaundry; HonestConservative; rightwingintelligentsia

ping


2 posted on 04/24/2009 1:55:34 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Appeal to Heaven.)
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To: Big_Monkey

Dick Cheney, is one American that will not take this crap lying down, God Bless Him


3 posted on 04/24/2009 1:58:36 PM PDT by peace with honor
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To: Big_Monkey
Cheney clearly made the request on March 31, 2009 with the National Archives.

Berger in town?

4 posted on 04/24/2009 1:59:49 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

He should file a FOIA request.


5 posted on 04/24/2009 2:01:18 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: peace with honor

Of course the MSM won’t tell anyone about this request. They will just put Hillary’s smarmy face on calling Cheney a liar.


6 posted on 04/24/2009 2:01:39 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Big_Monkey

Comments following the source article are chilling.


7 posted on 04/24/2009 2:03:23 PM PDT by Jacquerie (The failures of Central Planning cannot be corrected with more Central Planning.)
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To: Big_Monkey

So VP Cheney was given a heads-up that the selected memos were going to be released by the Obama/Holder Justice Department, and he wanted to be able to rebut with documentation of his own. No wonder VP Cheney has been out there for weeks saying that Obama is putting our nation at greater risk. He knew what was about to occur. President Bush had better start defending America, too. Otherwise, I’m beginning to think that he doesn’t care about the people he put in harm’s way after all. This is NOT about the individuals who were at the helm for the last 8 years. It’s about the people of this country and, especially, the men and women of our military who will bear the brunt of this irresponsible administration.


8 posted on 04/24/2009 2:07:35 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Doogle
Berger in town?

LOL!!!!!!!! You're BAAAAAAAAAAD.

9 posted on 04/24/2009 2:30:09 PM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Big_Monkey

and 0bama takes another one in the.................................HA ha!!!


10 posted on 04/24/2009 2:38:34 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: Jacquerie

Chilling??? Absolute proof that there are too many idiots in this country. Too many allowed to vote as well.


11 posted on 04/24/2009 2:39:02 PM PDT by junkman_106 (The ACLU can have arial intercourse with a rotating glazed pastry!)
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To: Big_Monkey

Paging George W Bush. Paging George W Bush.


12 posted on 04/24/2009 2:44:41 PM PDT by nhwingut
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To: petitfour
So VP Cheney was given a heads-up that the selected memos were going to be released...

Cheney said on the Hannity show he requested the documents privately in March for a book he is writing, but now that Hussein released the "torture" documents for political reasons, Cheney wants them released publically.

13 posted on 04/24/2009 2:51:07 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Big_Monkey
we’ve crossed the red line

Weekly Standard:

Porter Goss, former CIA Director and past chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, blasted the Obama administration for releasing Justice Department memos on harsh interrogation techniques. “For the first time in my experience we’ve crossed the red line of properly protecting our national security in order to gain partisan political advantage,” Goss said in an interview. Goss, a former CIA operative, has made few public comments since leaving his post as DCI in September 2006. In December 2007, he told a Washington Post reporter that members of Congress had been fully briefed on the CIA’s special interrogation program. “Among those being briefed, there was a pretty full understanding of what the CIA was doing,” Goss told the Post. “And the reaction in the room was not just approval, but encouragement.”

14 posted on 04/24/2009 2:51:21 PM PDT by anglian
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To: Big_Monkey
I'm sure the White House press corp will push them hard on this lie. </ sarc >
15 posted on 04/24/2009 2:55:55 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: colorado tanker

They won’t and that is what frightens me. A strong free press would put checks and balances on the rabid anti Americans in charge.


16 posted on 04/24/2009 3:10:48 PM PDT by omega4179 (Damn the world apology tour!)
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To: omega4179
Nope, the MSM are the flak men for the Obama regime.

It has to get out through grass roots, the way the tea parties did.

17 posted on 04/24/2009 3:14:29 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: nhwingut
Paging George W Bush.

The Amazing Shrinking Ex-President.


18 posted on 04/24/2009 3:20:51 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("Mr. President, I support you but not your mission. I'm showing my patriotism through dissent.")
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To: Big_Monkey
I can believe Obama would lie but I'm surprised the CIA lied after Obama threw them under the bus.
19 posted on 04/24/2009 5:12:57 PM PDT by tobyhill ("Hope and Change" is so overrated!)
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To: Big_Monkey

Thanks for posting this.


20 posted on 04/24/2009 9:39:06 PM PDT by Valentine_W
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To: Big_Monkey
The Geneva Conventions which pertained to the treatment of prisoners engaged in terrorism was spelled out in Protocol II. However, Protocol II, to make it binding to the United States, had to be ratified by Congress. This was not done.

So what makes the interrogation techniques unlawful? It might be the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in the Hamdan v. Rumsfeld (2006) case which said such prisoners were afforded prisoner-of-war protections under the Geneva Conventions.

If the Bush Administration were to be subject to prosecution due to the Supreme Court's ruling, one must look at Article I, section 9 of the U.S. Constitution which says that the federal government is prohibited from passing ex post facto laws. The states are prohibited from the same by clause 1 of section 10.

It appears that the Democrats are moving towards prosecution that retroactively changes the legal consequences of actions committed during interrogation techniques prior to the Supreme Court's interpretation. Such would be a violation of Article I, section 9.

21 posted on 04/25/2009 1:30:09 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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