Skip to comments.Dem Congressman: ‘Nobody in This Country Realizes That Cap-and-Trade is a Tax’(Climate Pirates)
Posted on 04/24/2009 1:58:13 PM PDT by Maelstorm
"Nobody in this country realizes that cap-and-trade is a tax -- and it's a great big one," Rep. John Dingell (D-Michigan) said Friday.
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Only if you exclude FReepers...
Well, yes. Unless we are going to go 100% nuclear, which I wish we would, it is a tax and its going to be paid by ordinary rate payers, which is to say, ordinary Americans.
And it has the additional attraction of being another form of money laundering, and the beneficiaries will be the oligarchs in suits. For them its a money machine.
“Nobody in this country realizes That Cap-and-Trade is a Tax???”
I certainly do, and a Commie power grab. They fully intend to destroy the U.S.
Actions have consequences, this will eventually play out, and it will not be pretty.
They'll pay this one, because it will be on their electric bill.
Poor people will get “energy vouchers” to cover the energy bills. this is another redistribution scheme.
NO, it will be "tribute" (tax) to our Muzzie Overlords
I promise, I will NOT be a "good little" Dhemmi!
Apparently that’s what happened to Dingle/Norwood. Dingle got a clue!
THE ONLY CAP & TRADE SHOULD BE GOVERNMENT POWER & SPENDING!!!
Everybody will know it soon enough.
I think “nobody” refers to Obama supporters...
Exactly. People DO realize it. Those in power realize it, but won’t admit it. Its the big fat wad of $$ that is culmination of 20+ years of Propaganda.
Pretty much explainS how 0bama got elected - just superimpose cap-and-trade with 0bama & TAX with SOCIALISM and you begin to understand the gravity of the problem at hand.
The people have no clue WHO they voted for or what he really is.
If DingelL can come to this conclusion in less than 100 days then I'd have to say even Kindergartners can as well.
Don't Tread on Me. I will never bow to a Saudi King and if I ever meet the Queen of England, I will kick her in her large bottom and tell her to go back to Germany.
As usual politicians trying to cover up and hide the truth. We really need to clean out our elected officials. They are worthless.
“Dingle got a clue!”
Amazin’ ain’t it? I hope a few more Dems will speak up against this “Fiscal Suicide Bill”
“It means your electric bill will double and the cost to transport goods, fly on airplanes, fill up your car etc will become very expensive and all this money will go to Washington DC. “
...so, what’s the problem? /sarc
You mean no Democrat realizes the problem with cap and trade don’t you dingelberry?
Nobody, A lot are aware of it. The Radical Democratic press just prefers to ignore it.
The Dumass DemoRat.
The Obama version involves a huge tax grab; because the government would charge for the emission credits. It doesn't have to be that way — but, the tax grab is obviously what Obama really wants.
“Poor people will get energy vouchers to cover the energy bills. this is another redistribution scheme.”
They will have no incentive to conserve since you will be paying their bill.
Cap and trade will never pass. Too many dem congressmen and senators have to face their electorate next year.
Meaning, they would be bought and sold among producers.
Thats a cost that gets passed to the rate payer, and its an opportunity for financial mischief that will make Oil for Food look like a kid's piggy bank, just like Oil for Food made Enron look like a kid's piggy bank.
This is kind of funny. I wonder how Dingle voted regarding taxes in the past?
its a very big tax. the poor and middle class are going to be hardest hit
A Democrat said this? Maybe there is HOPE. Or maybe some Dems are already fearing the CHANGE Congress will see after the next election.
Regardless it will have a huge economic impact because companies have to comply with the number of credits they are given and doing so will be VERY expensive even if the government gives them away. It is just a shell game.
He never said he was against it and he was speaking among friends. Cap and Trade is just another stupid layer of bureaucracy for companies to have to deal with and we end up paying for it big time in the end.
Yes, but GE will be the better for it.
Not really. The poor will get subsidized energy costs from the income on cap & trade. TOTUS said so in one of its speeches.
The price of everything will go up. everything
Yes it will and that’s not counting inflation to come.
It will kill me and my family. We will have to move in an apt, me go back to work and my kids will have to stay home without me which would suck, but we’d do what we would have to.This better not pass. We can’t afford it!
Roll this out during a deep economic recession... brilliant.
Just wanted to make you aware that you are half correct. The sheep who voted for people like Obama and yourself are in fact unware that this is a tax that will cause our bills to increase by $1800 a year.
The rest of us are aware and we are a bit ticked off. If you would be so kind as to hold daily press conferences repeating what you said here, I would have the ability to respect at least one elected democrat.
No they won't but it doesn't seem to matter to the current management team.
If we really believed that carbon was a problem, and if we really wanted to do something about it, the answer is to build more nukes. And then build more nukes.
Whether or not government takes a bite (and how could they resist?) — any expenditure to “fight global warming” is a dead-weight economic loss. And that goes double for any “solution”, where government takes a bite.
Rep. John Dingell (D-Michigan)Wrong. Everyone, and I mean everyone, knows exactly what cap and trade means, and know that it's a tax.
forgot to ping ya.
Just because the DemonCraps Minions don’t understand cap and trade doesn’t mean that “Intelligent” people (Republicans) don’t know exactly what it is.
How stupid does Mr Dingle (ling) think his people are? Obviously - Pretty stupid.
NO, they know what they are doing. They are intentionally hammering the "Self-Destruct" mechanism to force a global currency and global government on us.
The only question now, will the effort force an armed confrontation, or will they pear into the Abyss and blink.
This is not going to end well.
Note that Dingell is not actually against a carbon tax. In fact, he favors it over cap and trade. He even thinks it’s a good idea. But he would go for cap and trade if we can “avoid making the mistakes the Europeans made.” Let’s not give Dingell a lot of credit here. He acknowledges that cap and trade is a tax, but he’s not against it on that basis.
The Democrats never met a tax they didn’t like.
“Boy are you optimistic. It is coming, so get ready”
Actually, its not. An amendment requiring 60 votes to pass cap and trade passed. Byrd and Rockefeller of WV have already said they will not vote in favor of cap and trade and there are other senators from coal producing states who will join them. So, it is for all practical purposes, dead.
Why is it called “Cap”?
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