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CDC says too late to contain U.S. flu outbreak
Reuters ^ | 4/24/09

Posted on 04/24/2009 2:42:42 PM PDT by Crazieman

WASHINGTON, April 24 (Reuters) - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Friday it was too late to contain the swine flu outbreak in the United States.

CDC acting director Dr. Richard Besser told reporters in a telephone briefing it was likely too late to try to contain the outbreak, by vaccinating, treating or isolating people.

"There are things that we see that suggest that containment is not very likely," he said.

He said the U.S. cases and Mexican cases are likely the same virus. "So far the genetic elements that we have looked at are the same." But Besser said it was unclear why the virus was causing so many deaths in deaths in Mexico and such mild disease in the United States.

(Excerpt) Read more at in.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhocdc; cdc; flu; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; influenza; mexico; mexicosfault; obama; outbreak; pandemic; swine; swineflu; thanksmexico
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1 posted on 04/24/2009 2:42:42 PM PDT by Crazieman
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To: Crazieman

Obviously this is Bush’s fault.


2 posted on 04/24/2009 2:43:59 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Crazieman

Well, another piece of bad news. Of course, the borders are going to be swamped with sick Mexicans so I imagine this will travel fast.


3 posted on 04/24/2009 2:44:37 PM PDT by Niuhuru
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To: Crazieman
If it's too late, then what did we pay the CDC for ?

Useless waste of money.

Be prepared.

4 posted on 04/24/2009 2:45:58 PM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: Crazieman

This will be the same statement issued after a nuke goes off in a US city. “We’ll it’s too late to do anything now.”

Idiots. You haven’t listened to the people for years. We want the border closed. Now, not tomorrow, right now.


5 posted on 04/24/2009 2:47:06 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: Crazieman

The CDC is being far too politically correct about this. They refused to say that our lack of secure border to the South is allowing the disease across our borders.


6 posted on 04/24/2009 2:47:12 PM PDT by benjibrowder (I keep praying for hope and change, but I open my eyes and Obama is still President.)
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To: Crazieman
it was likely too late to try to contain the outbreak, by vaccinating, treating or isolating people.

7 People diagnosed with swine flue in Texas does not make an epidemic.

But he is probably right that a vaccine could not be deployed in time if an outbreak occurs.

7 posted on 04/24/2009 2:48:31 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Crazieman

I think alot of readers will miss your source name:

Roto-Reuters

So I post it again!


8 posted on 04/24/2009 2:48:38 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: Crazieman

Thanks to the illegal alien abettors.


9 posted on 04/24/2009 2:49:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Crazieman; All
Here's the link, I forgot to paste it in my haste, http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/24443479.htm
10 posted on 04/24/2009 2:50:29 PM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: Niuhuru
Of course, the borders are going to be swamped with sick Mexicans headed for our hospital emergency rooms and clinics, as well as being admitted to the hospitals among unsuspecting patients
11 posted on 04/24/2009 2:54:06 PM PDT by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

Of course, all the more easy to infect you my dear.


12 posted on 04/24/2009 2:54:53 PM PDT by Niuhuru
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To: benjibrowder
The CDC is being far too politically correct about this. They refused to say that our lack of secure border to the South is allowing the disease across our borders.

That might be another problem with this potential outbreak. They are skittish because of their response to something similar in 1976 (I think), where they saw a potential pandemic and released a vaccine that was bad and hurt a bunch of people. Also, the pandemic never occurred. So, they are perhaps being overly careful this time, and are fearful of saying things. Especially anything politically charged.
13 posted on 04/24/2009 2:56:46 PM PDT by ZX12R
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To: Crazieman

thanks, bfl


14 posted on 04/24/2009 2:58:02 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: ZX12R

What’s the politically correct way of saying “We’re screwed”?


15 posted on 04/24/2009 3:01:49 PM PDT by unkus
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To: happygrl
It is a little scary to read this - that is it is posted after 5pm EST on Friday - always a time to post bad to very bad news.
16 posted on 04/24/2009 3:02:08 PM PDT by SFR
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To: unkus
What’s the politically correct way of saying “We’re screwed”?

Pandemically challenged?
17 posted on 04/24/2009 3:04:03 PM PDT by ZX12R
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To: Crazieman

"Remain calm....all is well."

18 posted on 04/24/2009 3:04:22 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Crazieman

They say 60 people have died.

The flu has always killed lots of elderly people.

What are the ages of the people who died?

If it’s people who aren’t very old or young I’d worry more that this was a possible pandemic.


19 posted on 04/24/2009 3:24:31 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos
25-45 are most of the deaths
20 posted on 04/24/2009 3:25:15 PM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: Crazieman

call Jack Bauer?


21 posted on 04/24/2009 3:29:33 PM PDT by peace with honor
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To: Mount Athos

It’s killing people in their prime, 25 - 45, which is why the freak out.

I’ve read that CDC has Tamiflu at the ready, to try and contain the outbreak, which conflicts with the “too late to contain” remarks. I wonder if the right hand knows what the left hand is doing.

But, with the liklihood of poor Mexicans streaming north to be treated in US emergency rooms, I wonder how effective any attempt at containment could be.


22 posted on 04/24/2009 3:31:58 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Crazieman

age 25-45. Ok then there is good reason to worry!


23 posted on 04/24/2009 3:32:14 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Crazieman
Funny... Fox radio had the guy on saying that they were watching it closely but he was not warning of any outbreak. Does anyone ever tell the truth any more... or more than once on any given subject?

LLS

24 posted on 04/24/2009 3:32:35 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: Mount Athos

Young people dying. And dna of virus is perplexing,,both avian and swine dna. CDC is alarmed,,


25 posted on 04/24/2009 3:38:26 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Crazieman
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Friday it was too late to contain the swine flu outbreak in the United States.

Yeah, a whole 7 people have died. There's no way to stop it now.

Do I need a sarcasm tag? Really?

26 posted on 04/24/2009 3:39:50 PM PDT by retrokitten (marrow.org)
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To: retrokitten

New report says 60 people died.


27 posted on 04/24/2009 3:43:07 PM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: cajungirl

I think the H1N1 viruses are resistant to tamiflu,,they use Flumadine or amantadine, other antivirals. But I read the cdc memos on this outbreak and they didn’t mention antivirals and which ones worked.


28 posted on 04/24/2009 3:43:13 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

There’s a Drudge link to a WHO report, stating that this virus is responsive to Tamiflu, and that authorities in both the US and Mexico have stockpiles of the drug.


29 posted on 04/24/2009 3:45:43 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Crazieman

Nice living next to a 3rd world nation Mexico where they live with Pigs and having a Pig in the White House that loves Mexicans.


30 posted on 04/24/2009 3:45:48 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: Crazieman

well.. thank goodness we didn’t go along with that racist practice of securing of the borders.

diversity... how else would an American experience third world diseases?


31 posted on 04/24/2009 3:46:34 PM PDT by sten
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To: SFR

the timing is ..... suspicious

WTH


32 posted on 04/24/2009 3:47:27 PM PDT by silverleaf (We live in interesting times: now the entire IRS works for a tax evader)
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To: cajungirl

I am mistaken,,the new virus is sensitive to tamiflu.


33 posted on 04/24/2009 3:52:16 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Crazieman
Yes, 60 people in Mexico. This article says the CDC is saying it's too late to contain the outbreak in the US. There are also up to 40 human cases of bubonic plague in the US every year.

The CDC website says the only cases in the US have been in San Diego and Imperial Counties in CA and San Antonio, Texas.

Anyway, here's the CDC recommendations page for Swine Flu:

CDC Swine Flu sheet.

34 posted on 04/24/2009 3:52:17 PM PDT by retrokitten (marrow.org)
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To: cajungirl

Have to run out, but is there a link where it states that this strain is “perplexing” - having both avian and swine dna?

Thanks.


35 posted on 04/24/2009 3:52:27 PM PDT by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: Crazieman

mortality rate is about 10% based on cases in Mexico

Once it gets going among greater numners of peoplr, it will mutate again

for better or for worse?

bird, swine, and human flue DNA mixed....sure sounds engineered to me

SEATTLE (CNN) — Joe Biden told Democratic fundraisers Sunday night that there is no doubt in his mind a crisis will occur during Barack Obama’s first six months in office that will test his mettle and force him to make unpopular decisions.

“Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy,” said Biden to a roomful of donors. “The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America.”

“Remember I said it standing here, if you don’t remember anything else I said,” Biden continued. “Watch, we’re going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.

“I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it’s going happen. I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate.”

The Delaware senator spoke at two Seattle fundraises Sunday night, expected to bring in $1 million for the campaign. Biden told the supporters that when Obama will need them to stand with the administration on the difficult calls — not financially, but by using their influence within their communities to convince others that the right decisions are being made.

“I promise you, you all are going to be sitting here a year from now going, ‘Oh my God, why are they there in the polls, why is the polling so down, why is this thing so tough?’ We’re going have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years,” said Biden. “I’m asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you’re going to have to reinforce us.”
October 20, 2008
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/20/biden-predicts-early-crisis-will-test-obama/


36 posted on 04/24/2009 3:53:52 PM PDT by silverleaf (We live in interesting times: now the entire IRS works for a tax evader)
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To: cajungirl

The Swine Influenza A/H1N1 viruses characterized in this outbreak have not been previously detected in pigs or humans. The viruses so far characterized have been sensitive to oseltamivir, but resistant to both amantadine and rimantadine.

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_04_24/en/index.html


37 posted on 04/24/2009 3:55:16 PM PDT by silverleaf (We live in interesting times: now the entire IRS works for a tax evader)
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To: cajungirl

The page I read said Oseltamivir and Zanamivir.


38 posted on 04/24/2009 3:55:42 PM PDT by retrokitten (marrow.org)
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To: Crazieman

WHY has this jack*ss Hussein not closed the border???? Immediately close the dam* border! No Flights either. What is wrong with these people....going to get us killed.


39 posted on 04/24/2009 3:58:23 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: neverdem; Judith Anne

Ping!

It is already too late...


40 posted on 04/24/2009 3:59:07 PM PDT by EBH (May God Save the Republic!)
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To: silverleaf

I agree, it sounds engineered. We need our genetics folks to clear this one up. Have u seen the obama deception on you tube. Speaking of engineered. Warning.. it is a full length documentary.


41 posted on 04/24/2009 4:00:57 PM PDT by momincombatboots (The last experience of the sinner is the horrible enslavement of the freedom he desired. -C.S. Lewis)
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To: cajungirl

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2235041/posts
U.S. officials track new flu strain

Canada on alert after respiratory illnesses reported in Mexico
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2235742/posts


42 posted on 04/24/2009 4:02:36 PM PDT by EBH (May God Save the Republic!)
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To: silverleaf
the timing is ..... suspicious
43 posted on 04/24/2009 4:04:26 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: cajungirl

>>Young people dying. And dna of virus is perplexing,,both avian and swine dna. CDC is alarmed,,

Please provide a link... We’d love to read more about this. Having both swine and avian DNA would seem to indicate the virus was engineered in a laboratory.


44 posted on 04/24/2009 4:08:30 PM PDT by o2bfree
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To: Crazieman

The CDC wants us to believe it’s too late for containment. That means they didn’t see this coming. Not very good at their jobs, are they?


45 posted on 04/24/2009 4:14:37 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: o2bfree
Close analysis showed the disease is a never-before-seen mixture of swine, human and avian viruses, according to the CDC.
46 posted on 04/24/2009 4:14:40 PM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: o2bfree

From WHO:

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_04_24/en/index.html
The majority of these cases have occurred in otherwise healthy young adults. Influenza normally affects the very young and the very old, but these age groups have not been heavily affected in Mexico.

Because there are human cases associated with an animal influenza virus, and because of the geographical spread of multiple community outbreaks, plus the somewhat unusual age groups affected, these events are of high concern.

The Swine Influenza A/H1N1 viruses characterized in this outbreak have not been previously detected in pigs or humans. The viruses so far characterized have been sensitive to oseltamivir, but resistant to both amantadine and rimantadine


47 posted on 04/24/2009 4:20:41 PM PDT by silverleaf (We live in interesting times: now the entire IRS works for a tax evader)
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To: retrokitten
"There are also up to 40 human cases of bubonic plague in the US every year."

Bubonic plague has a harder time spreading (you need fleas and rats to spread it.) However if Bubonic Plague transmutes into Pneumonic Plague then its katie-bar-the-door!

48 posted on 04/24/2009 4:28:32 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (will work for bailout bonus.... Twitter: maddawggmorgan)
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To: Crazieman

I’m so not looking forward to traveling home through Houston/Bush International tomorrow. Guess it’s time to load up on the Airborne and vitamin cocktail.


49 posted on 04/24/2009 4:32:37 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: Crazieman

This really is O’s fault. IMO


50 posted on 04/24/2009 4:34:24 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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