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L. Cheney: U.S. Did "Not Cross That Line Into Torture"
Hotline Online ^ | 4/23/09

Posted on 04/24/2009 3:17:34 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2009/04/l_cheney_us_did.php

I know somebody posted the transcript of this exchange between Ms. Cheney and Ms. O'Donnell, but seeing it unfold before your eyes is a different thing.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: cheney; liz; msnbc; nora
If we can't have Dick back, perhaps Ms. Cheney should be in party leadership role....
1 posted on 04/24/2009 3:17:34 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Yup, it doesn’t come close to the level of torture.


2 posted on 04/24/2009 3:18:36 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: anniegetyourgun

Cheney/Palin....call it the ESTROGEN Party


3 posted on 04/24/2009 3:19:07 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Free Speech for THEE, but NOT for ME????)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Torture????

The gauntlet is coming down!
There is a recruitment process stirring the pot further to enlist people to demonstate that bogus torture is not torture.

The list actually contains Women (yes, WOMEN) who are willing to be waterboarded or sit in the box with caterpillar-bugs to prove that these techniques are not morbid tortures. It may become the latest reality TV show!!

How funny and ironic is this?

Patriot women will make the blubbering terrorists look like wimpy baby-girls and espose the ACLU -Obama- Soros’s intentions. They need to find another target to distract the masses from their sick little Marxist game of blame for cover.

Can’t wait to see the 2009 mock-torture updates...

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4 posted on 04/24/2009 3:19:23 PM PDT by Gemsbok (If wishes were horses, than beggars would ride)
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To: anniegetyourgun

I agree with L. Chaney. However, watching Nancy Pelosi approximates torture.


5 posted on 04/24/2009 3:25:25 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: anniegetyourgun

THANK YOU MS. CHENEY


6 posted on 04/24/2009 3:27:06 PM PDT by peace with honor
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To: anniegetyourgun

Will this very impressive woman, Elizabeth Cheney hold office? I would vote for her in a split second.


7 posted on 04/24/2009 3:27:46 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Gemsbok

I think they do worse on the reality shows.


8 posted on 04/24/2009 3:30:12 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Boy! She is a great debater!


9 posted on 04/24/2009 3:30:49 PM PDT by classified
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To: anniegetyourgun
Liz Cheney has more balls than any of the Repub's representing us on this issue today.

And - regarding the use of bugs to torture al Qaeda, anybody remember Fear Factor?


10 posted on 04/24/2009 3:35:38 PM PDT by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: classified

Schooled by one of the best...her father.


11 posted on 04/24/2009 3:36:25 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Congress has too many politicians and Leftistlators and not enough Constitutionalists.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
The interviewer tried to throw in the latest leftie lie, that the U.S. prosecuted waterboarding as a crime.

Here's the truth. Waterboarding U.S. POW's was cited in some war crime trials of Japanese troops after WWII. That's not because waterboarding is torture, but because it is physical and psychological abuse that is prohibited by the Geneva Conventions. These were U.S. soldiers captured in uniform on the battlefield entitled to those protections.

In contrast, KSM is an enemy combatant who deliberately violated his obligations under the Conventions and is not entitled to their protection. Our only obligation was not to torture him and I agree with Liz we didn't.

12 posted on 04/24/2009 3:38:04 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: anniegetyourgun

I thought this was going to be Lynn Cheney, the Vice-President’s wife, not his daughter Liz. Liz did a very credible job bitch slapping Laura O’Donnel.

Why was it possible for the U.S. to prosecute German military members who used water boarding during WWII? Wasn’t it because the rules of war forbid water boarding of captive soldiers? It may have been because water boarding was thought of as torture, but more importantly it wasn’t deemed appropriate for prisoners to be interrogated at all. Thus water boarding would have been a tactic of questioning, something that was out of bounds in total.

U.S. troops in Iraq do operate by Geneva Convention rules. It’s just that when it comes to terrorist combatants who target civilians, you have to up the ante. Should torture be used? I’ll leave that for others to argue here. I don’t think water boarding reaches the level of torture, if you have the right to question non-conforming terrorist combatants. And we undoubtedly do.

There are no rules governing non-conforming terrorist combatants’ treatment.


13 posted on 04/24/2009 3:42:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Thank you so much for posting this.

Liz was fantastic. She came across as knowledgable, confident, and focused. The interviewer came across as a cheap journalist trying to get a “gotcha” moment instead of considering the merits of Liz’s points.

Go Liz!!!


14 posted on 04/24/2009 3:55:49 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: freekitty

Agreed,
Ever see the South American version of Fear Factor?


15 posted on 04/24/2009 3:56:47 PM PDT by Gemsbok (If wishes were horses, than beggars would ride)
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To: Nuc1

Indeed.


16 posted on 04/24/2009 4:22:27 PM PDT by ToKillaMockingbird
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To: freekitty
Lynne Cheney is a force that devastates the Left. I don't understand why she has not done more.
17 posted on 04/24/2009 4:28:43 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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18 posted on 04/24/2009 4:32:04 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: freekitty

I was thinking this was Lynne Cheney. Now we have Liz Cheney, the daughter. Wow! I’ll take both of them.


19 posted on 04/24/2009 4:33:06 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: colorado tanker
"That's not because waterboarding is torture, but because it is physical and psychological abuse that is prohibited by the Geneva Conventions"

Had the U.S. Supreme Court not ruled that the United States was bound by the Fourth Geneva Conventions in the case, Hamdan v. Rumsfeld (2006), there would be no reason to go after the Bush Administration. I hope I have it correct, but it is this Geneva Convention, Protocol II (that dealt with combatants in non-international armed conflicts) that needed ratification by Congress to be law. Elements of such treatment were covered by the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Since there was no ratification, the court as usual, bypassed the legislative process and the will of the people.

20 posted on 04/24/2009 5:35:30 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: jonrick46

She was probably honoring her husband being Vice-President.


21 posted on 04/24/2009 5:36:58 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: jonrick46

Me too


22 posted on 04/24/2009 5:37:28 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Gemsbok

I have only caught a part of Fear Factor American one time. Too goulish for me.


23 posted on 04/24/2009 5:38:05 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: jonrick46
That's true although the way I read Hamdan the only Justice who actually signed off on the opinion that the Geneva Convention covers illegal combatants was Stevens.

I think the approach the lefties will take is right up the middle, defining waterboarding as torture, which is illegal under U.S. law. I know it sounds nuts: how could you prosecute a lawyer for writing an opinion that the technique as approved for the CIA is not torture and is legal for conspiracy to engage in torture??? Well, think about an out of control political prosecutor (a la Fitz), a D.C. jury and an Obama appointee Judge. Talk about a kangaroo court.

24 posted on 04/27/2009 9:55:52 AM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: anniegetyourgun
She drank O'Donnell's milkshake

Is O'D related to what's his name, the oft-raving lunatic with the same surname?

Love Liz's Lip Raise
Just like her old man's

25 posted on 04/30/2009 7:42:14 PM PDT by rvoitier (One of the 25 million)
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