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The Holy War Over Kathleen Sebelius [Catholics Bishops Told To Shut-Up!]
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-rutten25-2009apr25,0,2222655.story ^ | April 25, 2009

Posted on 04/25/2009 10:47:08 AM PDT by Steelfish

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To: netmilsmom
RERUM NOVARUM

ENCYCLICAL OF POPE LEO XIII
ON CAPITAL AND LABOR

21 posted on 04/25/2009 11:41:57 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: netmilsmom
QUADRAGESIMO ANNO

ENCYCLICAL OF POPE PIUS XI
ON RECONSTRUCTION OF THE SOCIAL ORDER TO OUR VENERABLE BRETHREN, THE PATRIARCHS, PRIMATES,
ARCHBISHOPS, BISHOPS, AND OTHER ORDINARIES
IN PEACE AND COMMUNION WITH THE APOSTOLIC SEE,
AND LIKEWISE TO ALL THE FAITHFUL OF THE CATHOLIC WORLD.

22 posted on 04/25/2009 11:45:16 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Steelfish
Where does Sebelius do less damage?

Easy -- in the Senate. At least there, she can run the risk of getting voted out after just one term. In the Empty Suit's cabinet, she could easily be there until 2017, or (I fear) longer yet if he decides to try this Dictator-for-Life thing that I won't put past him.
23 posted on 04/25/2009 11:58:44 AM PDT by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
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To: George from New England
Most bishops stuck their heads in the sand and now think they can become relevant overnight. I think not — nobody will listen to them anymore.

On the contrary. While I agree that too many bishops remained silent, a large number of them are now speaking out and taking a firm stand, as evidenced by the 47 bishops who have criticized the president of NDU for inviting Obama to address the commencement class. Alumnae are withholding donations, many Catholic parents who had planned to send their children to that university, are now looking to other institutions. There is now a polarization amongst US Catholics as they distinguish themselves as either cultural Catholics or practicing Catholics.

24 posted on 04/25/2009 12:03:13 PM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: Kansas58

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’m going to my group with this!!!!!


25 posted on 04/25/2009 12:07:21 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Oh my Goodness, thanks!!!!!!


26 posted on 04/25/2009 12:07:43 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: don-o
This is a nasty business with serious implications,

I'm guessing that the Bishops not wanting their flock spending eternity in hell is not what this writer had in mind.

27 posted on 04/25/2009 12:13:26 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: NYer

I wonder what Sharia Muslim clerics would do if one of their flock by word and deed mocked their religious tenets and were planning to take a high level government position? Catholic Shepherds are expected to turn a blind eye when their flock go astray. All Ms. Sebelius has to do is to go Episcopalian, then she can serve two masters.


28 posted on 04/25/2009 12:27:04 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: netmilsmom

Centisimus Anno by JP the Great is mostly likely your best bet. It applies to today and addresses the Church’s approach, which is distributism. Basically, capitalism guided by morality.


29 posted on 04/25/2009 12:34:21 PM PDT by mockingbyrd (From the God Who brought you the plague of frogs and boils comes......OBAMA!!!!)
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To: Steelfish
The pro-abortion forces follow the same radical legal mindset that permeates the “gay agenda”;

and that is the erroneous legal proposition that something that is legally permitted, is required to be permitted by everyone.

Yet, we know, just taking smoking cigarettes as an example, that that argument is fallacious in the American context. The radical legal argument says:

1. since abortion is a permissible medical procedure, any and every medical facility is required to perform them if they are capable;

2. since "gay" relationships are not a legal offense, the law, and education, are required to promote them.

In both cases, the true meanings of liberty, freedom of conscience, true "tolerance" and even a "diverse" society are denied by those legal ideas.

Notice that in both cases, the liberal view attempts to criminalize the opposing view, and the conservative view does not.

30 posted on 04/25/2009 1:08:57 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: A.A. Cunningham; Kansas58; netmilsmom
Here's a really interesting article on the Compendium of Social Doctrine of the Church, a basic resource which I haven't gotten yet, but am gonna get.

One interesting thing here is that, in the US and probably elsewhere, left-wing Catholics have for a whole generation so dominated the conversation, and so equated socialism with Catholic social teaching, that when a compendium of actual Catholic documentary sources gets published, they complain that it's somehow "infected" with capitalist propaganda!

Fr. Robert Sirico of The Acton Institute and Michael Novak of The American Emterprise Institute have done a lot of good writing on the positive virtues of a free enterprise system from a Catholic point of view.

31 posted on 04/25/2009 1:19:47 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Utopianism + Power = Genocide. Hannah Arendt)
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To: Steelfish

**[Catholics Bishops Told To Shut-Up!]**

By whom?


33 posted on 04/25/2009 11:38:10 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: netmilsmom

Best Vatican reference that is anti-socialism and pro-capitalism:
JPII’s Centesimus Annus (approx 1990) (100 year update on Rerum Novarum)

Check out paragraph 48 in which he CONDEMNS the welfare state for essentially promoting LAZINESS.

This is one bit of Catholic theology that the Leftists brush under the rug.


34 posted on 04/26/2009 6:02:24 AM PDT by impimp
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