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Eric Holder, Do Your Duty: Investigate Obama and Clinton Campaigns
IsraPundit ^ | 4/24/09 | Bill Levinson

Posted on 04/25/2009 10:50:52 AM PDT by Winged Hussar

"It's my duty to enforce the law," Attorney General Eric Holder proclaimed sanctimoniously when he announced his intention to investigate Bush administration lawyers whose advice might have led to coercive interrogations of terror suspects. He is quite correct that a country's laws must apply to all: high and low, Republican or Democrat, nobody can be exempt or the law will lose all respect.

We are therefore confident that Mr. Holder's proposal to investigate the Bush officials is not a partisan witch hunt or a Stalinist purge of a previous regime, and that Mr. Holder will be equally diligent in investigating and prosecuting alleged vote fraud, voter intimidation, and similar conduct that could easily violate Federal laws whose purpose is to protect the right to vote. It is a matter of record that these allegations, which were signed by attorneys for the Obama and Clinton campaigns, were brought to the attention of the U.S. Attorney's office in October 2008. There is also the matter of the lotteries--and they contained the elements of payment of consideration, chance, and a prize--that the Obama campaign conducted over the Internet to fund its operations.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: holder; lottery; obama
It is a matter of record, as shown by proof of delivery of certified letters, that the Attorney General's Office was made aware of the allegations of election misconduct by both the Obama and Clinton campaigns. These allegations include interference with people's right to vote, which sounds pretty serious.

The article also cites the lotteries that the Obama campaign ran to fund its operations. They appear (although we cannot give legal advice) to have all the elements of a lottery, which is generally illegal.

Are these lotteries legal? Next we come to the matter of the lotteries that the Obama campaign conducted to raise money. Our understanding is that a lottery consists of three elements: (1) Payment of consideration, e.g. an entry fee. If the promotion allows entry without payment of consideration, it is not a lottery. The cited examples, however, did not offer a way to enter without a donation to the Obama campaign. The Obama campaign, in response to complaints from at least one law enforcement agency, ran a subsequent promotion in which it was possible to enter without making a donation. (2) Element of chance, i.e. a winner is drawn at random. The fact that the Obama campaign selected "winners" before the entry deadline suggests things even worse than a potentially illegal online lottery, and we will leave it to attorneys to comment on what they might be. (3) A prize, in this case an expenses-paid trip to meet Barack Obama or attend the Democratic National Convention.

Here is an E-mail that we received from the campaign. A subsequent one signed by Michele Obama says you can enter without making a donation, but this one does not. Also note that Barack Obama's own signature appears on it.

    X-UIDL: 7148-1156627068 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Received: from mta7.bluestatedigital.com ([69.25.202.120]) by vms041.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id for [our E-mail address]; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:31:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mta7.bluestatedigital.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 8DC31619613; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:31:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:31:11 -0400 From: Barack Obama Subject: RE: Dinner with Barack? X-Originating-IP: [69.25.202.120] To: Bill Levinson [our E-mail deleted from public posting] Reply-to: info@barackobama.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.72-blue_mailer] Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=b1_fd323b1ae42e85082052c2a45257a5a9 X-Priority: 3 X-maillist-id: 89YX-UgAlnc X-maillist-guid: CgdXWAJtXg08ax1gViRfDwAw

    --b1_fd323b1ae42e85082052c2a45257a5a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Make a donation in the next week and you could have dinner with Barack:

    https://donate.barackobama.com/dinnerforfive

    Dear Bill,

    When we launched this campaign, we decided not to take the easy money offered by Washington lobbyists and special interest political action committees.

    Instead, we put our faith in you, and we couldn't have made a better choice.

    I'll be meeting four of you for dinner sometime soon, but what's happening across this country is bigger than me, or my candidacy.

    Together we're re-shaping the political process based on the idea that a movement of people who care about the common future of all Americans can be more powerful than any special interest.

    Below is the dinner invitation David sent out yesterday. I hope you'll take a minute to make a donation, and perhaps we'll be seeing each other soon.

    http://my.barackobama.com/dinnerforfive

    Thank you,

    Barack

    ----- Original Message ----- From: David Plouffe, BarackObama.com Date: June 6, 2007 2:46 PM To: Supporters Subject: Dinner with Barack?

    Dear Friend,

    Most political fundraisers are hosted by lobbyists and filled with representatives of special interests.

    But our campaign is different.

    Our funding comes from a movement of Americans giving whatever they can afford, even $5, and Barack wants to sit down with supporters like you.

    If you've ever thought about making a donation to join our campaign, now is the time. In the next week, four supporters will be selected for a new kind of fundraising dinner. We're reserving two of those seats for new donors like you.

    If you make a donation in any amount between now and 11:59 pm EDT on Wednesday, June 13, you could join Barack and three other supporters for an intimate dinner for five.

    https://donate.barackobama.com/dinnerforfive

    Our movement is changing the way campaigns are funded. We're not taking any contributions from Washington lobbyists or political action committees.

    More than 100,000 individual donors have demonstrated that this choice is about more than an election. It's about each of us having a personal stake in the future of American politics.

    The dinner for five is an opportunity for you to sit down with Barack and your fellow supporters and talk about what matters to you.

    Get the kind of treatment other politicians reserve for special interests. Make a donation in the next week, and you could share your story and your ideas with Barack in person:

    https://donate.barackobama.com/dinnerforfive

    With every single donation, we're building a movement to change American politics. And this is just the beginning.

    Thanks for your support, David

    David Plouffe Campaign Manager Obama for America

    ----

    Paid for by Obama for America This email was sent to: [our E-mail deleted from public posting] To unsubscribe, go to: http://my.barackobama.com/unsubscribe

    =20

We cannot give legal advice, but this sure looks like a lottery: (1) Payment of consideration: "If you make a donation in any amount between now and 11:59 pm EDT on Wednesday, June 13," (2) Element of chance: "you could" (3) Prize: "join Barack and three other supporters for an intimate dinner for five."
1 posted on 04/25/2009 10:50:52 AM PDT by Winged Hussar
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To: Winged Hussar
Holder will do what he's told to do, he's a black Janet Reno, but he's straight so we're told........the super Dyke didn't breath without the clinton’s OK
2 posted on 04/25/2009 10:55:24 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Winged Hussar

It’ll be a cold day in Hell before Eric Holder shows any interest in “justice.”


3 posted on 04/25/2009 10:59:09 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Winged Hussar

If no one is above the law, I guess we’ll see indictments handed down soon for Geithner, Daschle, Frank, Rangel and Obama’s illegal aunt in Boston.


4 posted on 04/25/2009 11:03:30 AM PDT by Flightdeck (Go Longhorns)
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To: Winged Hussar
Piss in the Wind
All we are is Piss in the Wind

To the tune of "Dust in the Wind....."

Welcome to Obamaworld....Abandon Hope all Ye Who Enter Here

5 posted on 04/25/2009 11:18:18 AM PDT by stboz
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To: stboz
Piss in the Wind

Can the right out-cuss the left?

6 posted on 04/25/2009 11:25:14 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
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To: Winged Hussar

Let me think, when was that Black Rat from LA with 90K in the freezer held to account for his crimes?

Has Jim McDermott ever paid his fines for passing on telephone conversations that were intercepted?

I actually don’t know the answer to the second question, if someone does please enlighten me.


7 posted on 04/25/2009 11:26:09 AM PDT by Eagles2003
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To: Winged Hussar

When will Janet Reno and Bill Clinton be tried for the burning alive of woman and children at Waco? If they had been Republicans The New york Times & CNN would have accused them of crimes against humanity. Time Warner would have hired Oliver Stone to direct the film version and HBO would have done a series for CTV.


8 posted on 04/25/2009 12:00:29 PM PDT by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: Winged Hussar

When will Janet Reno and Bill Clinton be tried for the burning alive of woman and children at Waco? If they had been Republicans The New york Times & CNN would have accused them of crimes against humanity. Time Warner would have hired Oliver Stone to direct the film version and HBO would have done a series for CTV.


9 posted on 04/25/2009 12:00:29 PM PDT by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: Winged Hussar

And while he’s uphoding justice, perhaps Holder can investigate 0bama’s eligibility to serve as POTUS ?


10 posted on 04/25/2009 12:30:10 PM PDT by TommyTrojan
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To: TommyTrojan

Doh, “upholding”.


11 posted on 04/25/2009 12:31:12 PM PDT by TommyTrojan
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To: TET1968

Re: “When will Janet Reno and Bill Clinton be tried for the burning alive of woman and children at Waco? If they had been Republicans The New york Times & CNN would have accused them of crimes against humanity. Time Warner would have hired Oliver Stone to direct the film version and HBO would have done a series for CTV.”

There is in fact no statute of limitations on murder...


12 posted on 04/25/2009 12:38:10 PM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: Winged Hussar

Nah, they will claim that that was a bunch of late term abortions.


13 posted on 04/25/2009 7:40:48 PM PDT by Texas resident (Older but smarter)
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