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In GOP base, a 'rebellion brewing'
The Politico ^

Posted on 04/26/2009 6:03:07 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

In GOP base, a 'rebellion brewing' By: Ben Smith and Jonathan Martin April 26, 2009 07:03 AM EST

A quick tour through the week’s headlines suggests the Republican Party is beginning to come to terms with the last election and that consensus is emerging among GOP elites that the party needs to move away from discordant social issues.

There was Sen. John McCain's daughter and his campaign manager who last week demanded that their fellow Republicans embrace same-sex marriage. Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman – the most devoted modernizer among the party's 2012 hopefuls – won approving words from New York Times columnist Frank Rich for his call to downplay divisive values issues. The party’s top elected leaders in Congress, meanwhile, spooked by being attacked as the “party of no,” were recasting themselves as a constructive, respectful opposition to a popular president.

But outside Washington, the reality is very different. Rank-and-file Republicans remain, by all indications, staunchly conservative, and they appear to have no desire to moderate their views. GOP activists and operatives say they hear intense anger at the White House and at the party’s own leaders on familiar issues – taxes, homosexuality, and immigration. Within the party, conservative groups have grown stronger absent the emergence of any organized moderate faction.

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Perverted marriage has been overwhelmingly defeated by the voters in every single state that held referendum on the issue, Including MA and CA the two most liberal states in the Union, Yet, The RINO's would have you believe we must abandon the social conservatives if we want to win another election??? PURGE the RINO's!!!

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51 posted on 04/26/2009 8:52:07 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: STONEWALLS

Wait, let me fix this.

“.....consensus is emerging among liberal democrats that the Republican party needs to move away from discordant social issues.”


52 posted on 04/26/2009 8:54:59 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"...There was Sen. John McCain's daughter and his campaign manager who last week demanded that their fellow Republicans embrace same-sex marriage."

I'm sorry but Megan McCain doesn't speak for anyone in the party and she is little more than a useful idiot for the left. John McCain's campaign manger has little reason to be consulted on anything political after his debacle in the last election. Why would anyone assume that these idiots ought to be party leaders?

53 posted on 04/26/2009 8:55:27 AM PDT by The Great RJ (chain.)
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To: Sub-Driver

It hardly matters how Conservative the country is or isn’t. America is being redefined by the courts. Gay marriage will soon be the norm, thanks to the courts. Liberalism is spread this way as we all know. But, we Conservatives must no longer for any reason, throw our votes and our principles out the window on election day. The Republican Party is where it is because of us doing just that. The Party and the Politicians in it HAVE to be held accountable. Voting for a RINO is no longer an option(think John McCain). We have to elect those that have the same principles as those that send them to Washington.


54 posted on 04/26/2009 9:30:51 AM PDT by dbrew2u
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To: Sub-Driver

GOP...is that some kind of organization or something? Sounds useless whatever it is.


55 posted on 04/26/2009 9:35:04 AM PDT by Sir Gawain ("Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect" - Thoreau)
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To: Sub-Driver

The problem with the GOP is the elites and people like McCain. There is no leadership and no standing up for what is right. If the GOP wants back in power, which I doubt, they need to look back to Reagan.


56 posted on 04/26/2009 9:37:59 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Theodore R.

More like a clone of Slick Willard. Creepy little RINO termite.


57 posted on 04/26/2009 9:49:23 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: dbrew2u

Did anyone ever come up with a good explanation of how John McCain ended up with the nomination? He was tied for last choice in my book.


58 posted on 04/26/2009 10:05:19 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Theodore R.
...Orrin G. Hatch, who started out as a real conservative?

Orrin Hatch hearts Holder
By Michelle Malkin

• January 12, 2009 02:54 PM He’s been signaling it for weeks, but now it’s official: GOP Sen. Orrin Hatch will support AG nominee Eric Holder’s nomination. The Hill reports on the embrace. Hatch explains GOP leadership at work: “I like Barack Obama and I want to help him if I can.”


59 posted on 04/26/2009 10:11:18 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Sub-Driver

It wasn’t Republicans opposition to illegal immigration, or sexual activism (homosexuality, abortion, etc) that loses elections. These issues if anything have kept people in the party that would otherwise have left it do to the abandonment of fiscal conservatism. The GOP has lost because of a discordant message, the lifting up of marginally conservative candidates simply because they have money to run, the lack of a clear message that speaks to the people and speaks to the heart of problems not just on wallstreet but the ones in D.C. which people are extremely frustrated with. Conservatism should be a message of hope, strength, and courage. Messages that believe that the role of the government should be small so the role of the citizen can be great. That the individual sovereignity a citizen and their exercising of their consent without intimidation or manipulation by a government grown too big should be the goal. That every child should have the hope of having a Mom and Dad and that parents should put the interests of the children before their selfish ones not for religious purposes but because it is the best option for raising stable children.

That doesn’t mean that we have to tear down the imperfect realities of others but we should dare not lift them up as an example which is more and more the case and it has had dangerous consequences for our nation with greater rates of single motherhood, men taking less responsibility or desiring no responsibility for their children and individuals from these broken families have a direct line not to a future but instead a prison cell. It is not just a religious issue that the unborn and the infirm should be protected it is a human issue and when we don’t we set a tone of responsibility for those who are least capable of protecting themselves we set a tone that feeds an ugliness in society that leads to modes of thinking that say “people are disposable” and “responsibility is optional”. It sets us on the road to not the eugenic indifference of the past but one that is based on personal selfishness where at least those in the past had a misguide goal for the betterment of humanity today we offer millions of babies to be burned with the trash not so unlike the sacrifices at Carthage. We dig up those small bones in horror while today we accept as normal the on going horror of today.

As for illegal immigration it is an issue that immigrants and natives should be able to understand. It has been the insistence of casting the argument as an either or proposition that either you are pro immigrant or you are a bigot. What this accomplished for the GOP in trying to steam roll the perfectly reasonable idea that the law of the land should be enforced is that it cost it votes from conservatives and drove away some legal immigrant votes. The GOP should be the party of the rule of law and not just for the sake of the law but because it is good for this country and any country that wants to maintain its internal integrity. You can not have an endless flow of individuals that do not assimilate, tax existing social resources, and take jobs that should be reserved for legal residents. It was the moderates not the conservatives that started the stupid fight over immigration.

It is they as they always do who gladly take up the banner of the left when convenient and it is their lack of unity that continues to cause us to lose because we conservatives who make up the vast core of the party are not just religious we are principled which is why we often find ourselves at odds with individuals in our own party and we believe in the founding principles of this nation. The irony is that if the founding principles had been adhered to and if we didn’t have the monster government feeding our social ills by being the premier enabling parent and substitute father for millions we could open our borders more freely without worry but in United states of today we can’t because it grows a political underclass that votes not for knowledge of freedom and dignity but out of poverty and submission and allegiance to thieves in Washington D.C.

That said I believe that most self styled moderates are not moderate in politics at all they are simply moderately immature, stupid, and or unprincipled. If they don’t hold the constitution sacrosanct, they don’t believe in a smaller more citizen driven government, and they don’t respect the natural traditional values and responsibilities of the family, and they don’t respect the laws of the land concerning immigration then I ask how are they conservative or Republican at all?


60 posted on 04/26/2009 10:18:00 AM PDT by Maelstorm (It is better to to get outside of the box than to just think outside of it.)
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To: Sub-Driver

We need some leaders along the lines of....B1 Bob.

I voted for the lesser of 2 evils last election,
really voted FOR Sarah.

I won’t again. Voting ‘lesser’ got us nowhere and it’s unlikely it can get worse.

From now on I vote my conscience, conservative.
Whether that’s Repub, Libertarian, Independent, Constitution and so on.


61 posted on 04/26/2009 10:25:58 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: hinckley buzzard

>”the Washingtonians”—denizens of the rarefied political heights of the Capitol District where similar tenacious, ‘rat-like political mutants dwell, and where they only talk to each other. These strange creatures actually are unaware that the earth revolves around the sun, not around them.

LOL - It’s true and funny at the same time. Just look at Murtah, Frank, Pelosi, Dodd or most of Congress [republicans included].It’s the “special privilege” / “I’m your superior” attitudes that I don’t like.


62 posted on 04/26/2009 10:36:39 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: STONEWALLS
"....and that is exactly why so many of us feel the GOP has lost it’s balls."<./b>
They had any?? There has not been a determined conservative mindset in the GOP since Ronald Reagan - remember how much of a trouncing he heaped upon the Dems in his second election? What was it...all but ONE state? I AM SICK AND TIRED OF HAVING TO ACCEPT THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS!!!

63 posted on 04/26/2009 10:37:50 AM PDT by Spacetrucker (I know who John Galt is...)
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To: Jim Noble

>Being AGAINST same sex “marriage” is a majority position, a winning issue, everywhere (including California!) that it has been subjected to a vote.
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>How is moving to the losing side of an issue good advice for a party which is trying to GAIN rather than LOSE votes?

A very good point you bring up. I’m thinking it’s the idea of “repeat a big enough lie often enough and it becomes the truth” idea applied, not to reality, but in the assumptions that are presented.


64 posted on 04/26/2009 10:39:34 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: nhwingut
I doubt a million people know who Stacey is, but while Mark Levin is hardly a household name he's sold a million copies of Liberty and Tyranny (and counting) and the Legacy Media universally ignores this.

Denial among Democrats is crass but not unexpected. For Republican "leaders" to be similarly in denial is mind-boggling.

This is just some more "manufactured consensus." And seemingly centered on the poly-marriage, flying against a tide of evidence to the contrary, we're supposed to believe the position held by Barack Obama is the "divisive cultural issue" that keeps people from voting for Republcans?

Hogwash, pure and simple Barbara Streisand.

Someone had dropped a bankroll in the fringe Log Cabin coffers, I will bet you.

Because this is just flat-earth nonsense.

65 posted on 04/26/2009 10:50:22 AM PDT by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: Spacetrucker
I AM SICK AND TIRED OF HAVING TO ACCEPT THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS!!!

Agreed. Very agreed.

I'm a programmer, so I'm kind of big on the ideas of justice & logic: if you feed the same inputs to a function, you get the same results. Too much of government seems run not by justice, the "law"* /constitution, but by "feelings", populism, power-lust, and the whims of the bureaucrats.

* I say law in quotes because, as some have pointed out, Judges are no longer content to be referees applying the [same] law justly, evenly to all; but instead want to selectively apply the laws or redefine the meanings of words to suit their own policies.

66 posted on 04/26/2009 10:55:02 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"There is a sense of rebellion brewing," said Katon Dawson, the outgoing South Carolina Republican Party chairman, who cited unexpectedly high attendance at anti-tax “tea parties” last week.

Oh really? I thought it was just a few rag-tag extremists according to the MSM.

67 posted on 04/26/2009 11:18:25 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Diggity

I have to agree with you.

Rather than religion, I’d rather conservative focus on key moral issues, such as personal responsibility, truthfulness, integrity.


68 posted on 04/26/2009 11:22:44 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Sub-Driver
.....how to effectively channel the deep emotion of the base while tamping down its excesses.

Any RINO who thinks Conservatism is an 'excess' will earn my vocal and undying opposition.

We tried the McVain, 'moderate' way, republicanism once. How did that work out for ya ?.... idiots.

If the party goes that way once more, I will quit.

Nam Vet

69 posted on 04/26/2009 11:36:11 AM PDT by Nam Vet ("Any fool can make a rule, and any fool will mind it." .... Henry David Thoreau)
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To: Diggity

We need to get rid of as much of government as possible and reverse the Socialism that has crept into the system.

Forget religous issues. Its has been our doom.
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Honestly, I have to agree with you. We need to take baby steps to get it back. I have many conservative friends that are pro-choice. They vote Republican every time, but many feel this issue is hurting the party. To halt the attack on religion we have to get back in the game. If we keep this up, we never will. Get in the game, then start repairing.


70 posted on 04/26/2009 11:36:28 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Sub-Driver
McCain's daughter is certainly not the spokesperson for the rank and file GOP members. How ridiculous. The MSM is trying to make her in the voice of the party. Certain groups are trying to hijack the party into what they think it should be.
71 posted on 04/26/2009 11:39:36 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Diggity

You’re making the mistake of confusing moral absolutes with religious hegemony.

That is exactly what the left and the Godless media would like you to do.

Being against illegitimacy, homosexual marriage, killing babies en utero, hard drug use etc has nothing to do with my Christianity other than that they do dovetail. Decent folks regardless of their religion know bad things when they see them...or they ought to.

Nor is being pro-gun, pro-war hawk, anti-Islamist, anti-envirowacko, anti-race/gender politics etc have anything to do with religion either.

BTW...Barry..bless his heart moved very much to the center as he aged....unfortunately


72 posted on 04/26/2009 11:50:01 AM PDT by wardaddy (You will not destroy our country without a fight replete with horror your naive ass cannot imagine)
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To: Diggity

Totally agree. The values issues belong at the local level. That is the way our country was founded.


73 posted on 04/26/2009 12:16:51 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (Obamanomics: Chains you can believe in.)
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To: Sub-Driver
We had eight years of moderation. His name is Bush. While Bush was good when it came to life issues, and slightly to the right of me on the gay issues, he was a liberal on fiscal issues outside of tax cuts. I supported tax cuts, but only with spending decreases.

The anger at Washington right now is because of spending. Now the "moderate" GOP wants to spend more? Go to hell, guys.

Right now we need to focus on less government, less government, and less government, in that order.

74 posted on 04/26/2009 12:29:48 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Buckley, Brooks, Parker - You supported Obama, so shut up and take your screwing)
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To: Darren McCarty

Excellant point...unfortunately the prevailing mood among the DC Republican class is that YOU, me and the rest of the base are just a bunch of hayseeds that only need to coddled every election cycle. For years the base has been screaming but to no avail. The Republican in DC party and get their pics taken with the likes of Kennedy(surely a felony to most conservatives). Now a large portion of the base is staying home rather than support RINO scum.....just look at the results from the NC races. Dole was tossed out and soon the weasel lil dickie burr will be looking for a new job.

It’s time for a new day within the Republican party


75 posted on 04/26/2009 12:56:27 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: Nam Vet
We tried the McVain, 'moderate' way, republicanism once.

Actually, we tried it with Gerald Ford, George Bush I (in his re-election campaign), Bob Dole and John McCain plus Bush II tinkled away most of his term trying to be civil and reaching out to the opposition who, to show their gratitude, sandbagged him at every turn.

76 posted on 04/26/2009 1:03:35 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Sub-Driver

MODERATES? What the heck is that? People with no values or ideas? People with no principles? We need to clean house. I don’t need to be led by people who disagree with me.


77 posted on 04/26/2009 1:32:40 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Diggity
Barry Goldwater????

He was a useless pro-abort. His first wife, Peggy, was a long-time (35 years or more) national director of Planned Barrenhood (as was Bush I's mother). Barry bragged about taking his daughter Susan to abort her child. To a very large extent, Goldwater was a brain dead knee jerk libertarian and in his last term a not very honest one.

He was in love with the notion of letting his descendants (several of them) feel free to practice lavenderism and mouth off in favor of it publicly.

He stabbed Ronaldus Maximus in 1968 and again in 1976.

I am ashamed to admit that Goldwater made me a Republican when I was a gullible teenager. I recovered soon enough and realized that Reagan was by far a better man and leader.

We have long since kissed (kicked?) dead Barry goodbye and good riddance. Materialist obsession with money is not a cause particularly worth fighting for much less "the one issue and one only." Fiscal tightwadism is an acceptable part of a broader coalition but not in the absence of a far more essential dedication to innocent human life, marriage, morality, a militant military policy, etc.

Goldwaterism is dead as a doornail and a good thing too.

78 posted on 04/26/2009 2:05:49 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: YankeeReb

Politico calls the Utah Governor the “most devoted modernizer” among the party’s 2012 hopefuls. Modernization sounds so wonderful. Everything and everybody should be modernized!

But in fact RINO Huntsman and his new buddy Frank Rich are promoting social decay and decadence and redefining male-female marriage into oblivion.

Lenin and Stalin were modernizers. In the name of scientific Marxism, he tore down backward churches and ripped up Russian society by the roots.

Spare us from the modernizers!


79 posted on 04/26/2009 2:33:04 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: From The Deer Stand
Trouble is the Republican Party doesn't realize this.

The problem is that these guys are humanists and materialists. Those guys all believe in what a famous Vietnam-era Democrat in the Johnson Administration said,

"When you've got them by the [expletive deleted], their hearts and minds will follow."

We all saw how well that worked out.

But that's how things always work out with people who don't believe anything. They can never get their arms around the idea that other people might actually believe things, and be willing to live and die by their beliefs.

80 posted on 04/26/2009 2:51:43 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Unam Sanctam
The elites are getting just the wrong message from the past election....

You err, friend. You imagine they care about messages. They don't.

81 posted on 04/26/2009 2:54:12 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I smell desperation from the Politico.

You smell more than that from them. You should have listened as their swinish talking-head ripped up Sarah Palin after her debate. I've got five bucks says the guy was (is) homosexual. The fiercest Bush-bashers usually were. One guy on FR did a lot of Googling on the names of rabid Bush bashers a few years ago and bracketed the names with "gay" in his search. He found tons of references to their being actually gay. Mystery solved.

82 posted on 04/26/2009 3:05:58 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Maelstorm
We dig up those small bones in horror while today we accept as normal the on going horror of today.

A docent who once led a museum tour of a celebrated exhibition from ancient Carthage showed us some of the remains from the Tophet, the place where the child-immolations occurred and the children's bones were buried after they'd been sacrificed to Melqart. She said that the little public area they had come from, on the Byrsa near the temple complex, was "the saddest place on earth."

Wonder if she got it?

83 posted on 04/26/2009 3:15:55 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Sub-Driver

The GOP is doomed unless it expels the RINOs that have crippled it.


84 posted on 04/26/2009 3:18:45 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Sub-Driver

the mccains sux. sic.


85 posted on 04/26/2009 3:25:22 PM PDT by ken21 (the only thing we have to fear is fdr deja vu.)
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To: BlackElk
Fiscal tightwadism is an acceptable part of a broader coalition but not in the absence of a far more essential dedication to innocent human life, marriage, morality, a militant military policy, etc.

Goldwater's exculpation and defense of his homosexual relatives didn't occur until later. If they'd been gay before he ran for President, Lyndon Johnson would have made sure that every deacon and tent-preacher in America knew about it -- he once told John Connally and the rest of his staff (as Robert Caro tells us) to circulate the rumor that senatorial primary campaign opponent "Coke" Stevenson was a pedophile. Big John bridled, "Lyndon, you know that isn't true!" "I know," replied Lyndon, getting a hateful, cynical-clever look on his ugly face, "I just want to hear him say it."

LBJ would have advertised Goldwater's relatives to the four corners of the earth. Goldwater, on the other hand, when LBJ aide Walter Jenkins was caught cruising in a D.C. men's room, wouldn't touch it. He took the high road and passed up a good opportunity to perforate LBJ's holier-than-thou, above-the-battle posture.

Social conservatives, btw, trace their involvement with the GOP back to a speech Goldwater made in May, 1964, during the primary campaign about what is called today the "family values" cluster.

So Goldwater was indeed a libertarian, as you say, but he also had a socially-conservative message that was at odds with what the selective "economic conservative" RiNO"s of today propagate as "the message" of the GOP.

86 posted on 04/26/2009 3:28:04 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: wardaddy

Moral issues are taught in the home and church and are not the domain of government or to be concerned with by politicians.

The ONLY issues we have that we need to address is runaway socialism, government spending, immigration and protecting the country.

Leave what belongs to God to God.

John


87 posted on 04/26/2009 3:29:50 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: Diggity

poor argument..we legislate all sorts of behavior, we have to

all civilizations have

otherwise it would be pandemonium

why have laws then?, let the church teach folks not to steal or murder...shucks that will stop it

*non- Randian ...obviously right?


88 posted on 04/26/2009 3:32:12 PM PDT by wardaddy (You will not destroy our country without a fight replete with horror your naive ass cannot imagine)
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To: wardaddy

Looks like some Republicans would rather tell someone how to run their life then protect the constitution.

Enjoy Obama. He will be just the first to come if its not stopped begining in 2010.

John


89 posted on 04/26/2009 3:45:27 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: Sub-Driver

BTTT!


90 posted on 04/26/2009 3:51:55 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: TMA62

Within the party, conservative groups have grown stronger absent the emergence of any organized moderate faction.”

This is a good sign, and indicative of rallying the base in the way Reagan did. Who will step up nationally to do so? 2010 comes first however.


91 posted on 04/26/2009 4:01:01 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Country and the Tea Party! Take American Back!)
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To: silverleaf

“Just imagine what we could do if we had a leader”

Yes, we need leadership, but I do like what people were talking about at the Deleware state level races, in terms of developing new political blood through pro baseball’s farm teams concept. We need to build the conservative movement state by state. True leaders will emerge from this just like stars emerge in baseball. We can’t just sit back and wish and hope and pray that someone will lead us out of the wilderness. I know all of us are doing what we can locally. In my view, that is the long term battleground - and yet we all face the near term battles of 2010 and 2012 also.


92 posted on 04/26/2009 4:05:10 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Country and the Tea Party! Take American Back!)
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To: Diggity
Moral issues are taught in the home and church and are not the domain of government or to be concerned with by politicians.

Tell it to the Democrat commies who have been legislating morality for 40 years....and all the while educating and idocrinating your children in the communist/Marxist/socialist ideology.

Rightwing patriots had better not stand down...moderates had their chance, and their weak tone and attitude have given us our first anti-American President.
93 posted on 04/26/2009 4:07:45 PM PDT by roses of sharon (Pray Hussein fails!)
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To: Sub-Driver; SmithL; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Norman Bates; Impy; ExTexasRedhead; ...

A rebellion? I would hope so.


94 posted on 04/26/2009 4:09:05 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Being condemned for corruption by Mexico is like being lectured on morals by the adult film industry)
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To: Sub-Driver
From 1992 to 2005, my family probably contributed in excess of $10k to the Republican Party and various Republican candidates.

Since 2006 I have not given a dime to the GOP in any fashion, either thru the RNC or contributions to any republican candidates. But I am still on all the mailing lists and always return any postage paid envelopes empty.

The GOP and the Republican party are dead to me. Worthless, useless, gutless, having no discernable principles, and no spine to stand for any even if they did.

If Conservatives reassert themselves and take control, and the McCain/Specter/Snowe disease is purged from the party, then I may reconsider.

95 posted on 04/26/2009 4:21:22 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Sub-Driver
...absent the emergence of any organized moderate faction.

WTF?!

Who do they think is RUNNING the party?

96 posted on 04/26/2009 4:25:31 PM PDT by papertyger (Journatizing made free speech an assault weapon.)
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To: YankeeReb

Read the rest of the article.


97 posted on 04/26/2009 4:32:54 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: STONEWALLS

Again, read the rest of the article.


98 posted on 04/26/2009 4:33:31 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: SampleMan

READ THE ARTICLE!!!!


99 posted on 04/26/2009 4:34:35 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: MuttTheHoople
...HATE the 1994 Congress, and LOVE Nelson Rockefeller, Gerald ford and Bob Michel.

There was a very good reason Newt was able to toss Bob Michael out on his ear, and a very bad reason Bob liked things just the way they were...how did Newt forget that?

100 posted on 04/26/2009 4:34:36 PM PDT by papertyger (Journatizing made free speech an assault weapon.)
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