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Economy: Landfills (and thrift stores) hurting as consumers repair, reuse
The News Tribune (Tacoma WA) ^ | 4/25/09

Posted on 04/26/2009 3:37:32 PM PDT by llevrok

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1 posted on 04/26/2009 3:37:32 PM PDT by llevrok
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To: llevrok

Women and Landfills Hurt the Most


2 posted on 04/26/2009 3:39:05 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("Mr. President, I support you but not your mission. I'm showing my patriotism through dissent.")
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To: llevrok
...less fill for landfills.

Oh the humanity!!!!

3 posted on 04/26/2009 3:39:29 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: llevrok

First to say: Why post this trash?

What a waste.


4 posted on 04/26/2009 3:40:52 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: llevrok

Now wait a minute, how does the law of supply and demand work backwards for garbage dumps? Less demand for a place to dump garbage should mean cheaper rates, no? Why not?


5 posted on 04/26/2009 3:41:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: llevrok
About 82 temporary workers have been laid

There is a reason why they call them "temporary" !

6 posted on 04/26/2009 3:41:58 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: MrEdd

Now, now, we’re supposed to dump on liberal lies.


7 posted on 04/26/2009 3:42:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Very funny!


8 posted on 04/26/2009 3:42:42 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Mr. Bernanke, have you started working on your book about the second GREATER depression?")
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To: llevrok
Potential trash is being sent to repair shops.

This will create an employment vacuum for green job fulfillment.

9 posted on 04/26/2009 3:43:56 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: llevrok

Goodwill is still doing a booming business. Bought a prom dress there the other day and they had just as much stuff as they’ve ever had. Yes, brand new with the store tags for $12, thank you very much.


10 posted on 04/26/2009 3:44:28 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: llevrok

So it costs us money if we throw it away.
But it costs us money if we DON’T throw it away.

This world is Eff’d up to the max!!


11 posted on 04/26/2009 3:45:38 PM PDT by djf (Live quiet. Dream loud.)
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To: llevrok

Ahhhh, the only time I EVER saw a repairman at our house was when we got a TV. Other than that...my dad, painted, sanded, nailed, refinished and rewired lamps all down in our basement. It was fun as a kid to go down there while he was doing that and just hang out and talk to him. Those were hard days for lots of people but...we made do with what we had and had shoes repaired, wore hand me downs, and even had (mismatched furniture pieces in our house given to us by friends or relatives) heaven forbid. The furniture was not always perfect or a “set” but...the love was perfect from a “set” of parents who took care of their family the best way they knew how and taught my brother and sisters to do the same. Thank you God for the wisdom of good parents and the lessons they taught us for life. I am VERY GRATEFUL.


12 posted on 04/26/2009 3:47:59 PM PDT by cubreporter (Rush Limbaugh - Truth, honesty and the American Way. Go Rush!!!)
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To: llevrok

Curiously, there was no correlation with population reduction. The landfill volume is a function of the populations size. If people are fleeing the area, landfills will feel the decline.


13 posted on 04/26/2009 3:48:09 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Crucify ! Crucify ! Crucify him!!)
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To: llevrok
At the Computer Zoo in the Dayton suburb of Miami Township, servicing of used computers is up 25 percent. And what normally was a customer wait of five to seven business days has become as long as 13.

"People don't have the kind of money to spend buying a new system when they can repair their old stuff for like half the cost," said Dan Seidl, purchasing manager.

The USB controller on the motherboard of my 6-year old PC is shorting out, so I bought an Ultra PCI card with 6 USB ports. I paid $20 with shipping -- a heck of a lot less than a new computer. Now I can run my Wacom Intuos, external HD, flash driver, printer, Alltel aircard, etc. without my system shutting down.

If Microsoft is smart (yeah, I know, HAHAHAAAAA), they could market Windows 7 to those of us with older PC's who refuse to downgrade to Vista.

14 posted on 04/26/2009 3:51:57 PM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: bgill

A cabinet factory near my home is closing and their dumping their warehouse inventory. I’ve been going down there and grabbing cupboard doors cheap (the ones with glass panes) to use as picture frames that look a bit like windows with scenery pictures behind them.

If the economy picks up I think I’ll be able to sell them and make a nifty profit at flea markets and craft shows etc.


15 posted on 04/26/2009 3:56:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: llevrok

Your recycling material is now going straight to the dump as the prices paid for the recycled material does not pay shipping costs. Only aluminum and copper remain above water, locally.


16 posted on 04/26/2009 3:56:58 PM PDT by Tarpon (You abolish your responsibilities, your surrender your rights.)
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To: 2banana

>> About 82 temporary workers have been laid

That’s some job perk, especially for a temp.


17 posted on 04/26/2009 3:58:51 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Party? I don't have one anymore.)
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To: djf

Have they not been screaming about the filling up of the landfills? Yep, upside down fer sure!


18 posted on 04/26/2009 4:04:20 PM PDT by oldteen
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To: cubreporter

Most of our furniture doesn’t match either. We have an accumulation of old stuff. Fixing stuff is what we’ve always done, as well as cooking from scratch most of the time.


19 posted on 04/26/2009 4:07:06 PM PDT by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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To: Kieri
Maybe it is time to market myself as a home tech again. I am certified and very experienced. Every now and then I make a few bucks doing quick fixes for some of the church crowd and in laws. Marketing seems to be my major shortcoming. I really don't know what to charge either.

No doubt there is a glut of people with my skill set out there but some of the ones I have met do not inspire any confidence in me. It is scary how much people simply do not know.

20 posted on 04/26/2009 4:08:29 PM PDT by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair! Star Wreck In The Pirkinning......)
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To: MrEdd

T-minus how long until some socialist supporting clown will use this “story” to say this:

If we didn’t have capitalism we wouldn’t have so much stuff and so many landfills wouldn’t have been filled in which release methane which have been causing temperatures to rise due to it being one of the ways man, undoubtedly, has been causing global warming...


21 posted on 04/26/2009 4:08:40 PM PDT by phatus maximus ( John 6:29. Learn it, love it, live it.)
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To: oldteen

We need to bail out the landfill industry...put a TARP over the dump.


22 posted on 04/26/2009 4:09:39 PM PDT by dogcaller
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To: cubreporter

Your post was a breath of fresh air, thank you.


23 posted on 04/26/2009 4:27:12 PM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: wally_bert

Well, I’ve taken coffee makers apart and cannibalized them to make a good working one. Whenever possible, I repair instead of replace.

My dishwasher was leaking so I had to pull the motor and the pump to redo the seal, works like a charm now. That was kind of a fascinating exercise because the pumps on them are bi-directional, if the motor spins one way, it pumps water into (through) the system, and if the motor spins in the other direction, then it pumps the water out of the system!

But you are right. I would guesstimate that 95% of the time when something breaks, your average Joe (or Jill) doesn’t have the time or inclination to fix it, even assuming they knew how..


24 posted on 04/26/2009 4:28:28 PM PDT by djf (Live quiet. Dream loud.)
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To: djf
I finally got around to fixing the broken pull cord on my troybuilt 5550 generator a couple of weeks ago. That was an adventure. The biggest aggravation was having to take the float bowl off to get the housing clear.

I would have taken the carb off but it had oddball fittings that would strip if I did anything but use the special tool that I didn't have for it. Putting the float bowl back on and aligned right took a few tries but I got it. I also remembered why I don't like working on carbs of any kind. I really don't know where to get a hold of something like that. It is a Briggs Stratton which I am 99% sure.

I was never the greatest small engine guy in the world but the old generator starts right up. There is a tiny bit of slack in the cord. The oil pressure safety switch is apparently defective on some models like mine. It will run fine for about 45 minutes or so then start to stumble and almost shutdown and then it will come right back. I need to track down a replacement switch.

Maybe when the surgeon releases me this Friday hopefully I can get back to doing stuff around here. I feel so much better overall than before going in. My gall bladder blew out on me recently and I had the first real surgery of my life. Looking back it may have been giving me problems for a very, very long time. At least I have become reacquainted with Bonanza and Gunsmoke. Favorites of my Grandfather.

25 posted on 04/26/2009 4:44:29 PM PDT by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair! Star Wreck In The Pirkinning......)
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To: cubreporter

i sure remember those days. always wished i had spent more time with my dad learning stuff i could use in my days without him and mom.


26 posted on 04/26/2009 4:44:29 PM PDT by alfie (peace through superior firepower)
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The best things I did for myself was take wood shop and auto mechanics in school. Those interested me the most. Science and history came next.

My wood shop taught some basic 110 home electrical and one guy already worked with his dad a lot and knew how to do a lot. He impressed us and the teacher too. This was 7th grade. Auto Mech was 9-12 and I was perfectly happy in there. I hated the rest of the high school racket.

27 posted on 04/26/2009 4:47:37 PM PDT by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair! Star Wreck In The Pirkinning......)
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To: djf
But you are right. I would guesstimate that 95% of the time when something breaks, your average Joe (or Jill) doesn’t have the time or inclination to fix it, even assuming they knew how..

It's funny. I have been repairing industrial equipment for almost thirty years. I fix everything. I fix things that others would throw away. It's really hard for me to understand NOT trying to fix something.

28 posted on 04/26/2009 4:58:47 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Kieri
to those of us with older PC's who refuse to downgrade to Vista.

But...why don't you want a buggy piece of spyware masquerading as an operating system?

29 posted on 04/26/2009 5:03:50 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: cubreporter; All

HA....our 1+ year old washing machine QUIT the other day....I couldn’t figure out why.....it just wouldn’t start and go past the first phase....so, I got on the Internet, and did a little research. In the end I found a HINT at a POSSIBLE problem, removed the top so I could reach some things (and unplugged it!).....eventually I wiggled some things. Tried it...and VOILA!, it worked!

This Internet thingy is great! And, I’m a 58 yr old woman...sure impressed my husband by saving a call to a “repair guy” who would have charged probably $75 just to show up.


30 posted on 04/26/2009 5:09:12 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Free Speech for THEE, but NOT for ME????)
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To: goodnesswins
This Internet thingy is great!

Ya, the Internet thingy knows everything. That's why I have it instead of TV. It's our humor, our online EVERYTHING resource, entertainment, best friend, and puppy. I pet and feed the modem every morning until it's tail wags.

31 posted on 04/26/2009 5:24:59 PM PDT by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Monopolists don’t operate under the law of supply and demand. Our garbage rates go up every time the waste stream goes down. Rates really jumped when they started the “free” recycling program 20 years ago. We raised our family of three kids with only one trash can every week due to that program.


32 posted on 04/26/2009 5:33:20 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: wally_bert

I hate carbs... But I can fix one if I have too...

Don’t know about gallbladder surgery, but an ACL replacement/Meniscus sew-up/ MCL sew-up is not very fun either. I have a new respect for ice packs!


33 posted on 04/26/2009 5:40:36 PM PDT by waterhill
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Rebuilt a 2 barrel carb about four times on my old Chevy Vega, back in the day. That thing never did work right at idle. Drip, drip, sputter, sputter.


34 posted on 04/26/2009 5:45:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: waterhill
Give me the book and the kit, mix in some patience and I will get it working. For the aggravation and time, I have replaced a few rather than expend the labor. Replacement is a lot faster.

One rule of thumb I have been able to remember is running a mixture screw in to close and back out 1 1/2 turns to be close. The little 2100 on my 304 has one mixture screw that is a real pain to adjust without one of those flexible screwdrivers.

A blown gall bladder is a special brand of misery. Abdominal pain on par with a kidney stone, turning very yellow/orange all over, dark brown urine, and an overall since of misery.

35 posted on 04/26/2009 5:50:14 PM PDT by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair! Star Wreck In The Pirkinning......)
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To: raybbr
Before something is junked around here, I will make an assessment of repair/replace/do without.

I can also handle most basic plumbing, electrical, and some carpentry. A lot of my limitations come from a tools budget standpoint or something that takes two bodies. However, I do know what I can and can't get away with. In those can't situations, I know to call somebody.

36 posted on 04/26/2009 5:56:05 PM PDT by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair! Star Wreck In The Pirkinning......)
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To: llevrok

I did my part on Earth Day to help the economy and keep people employed. I threw away a couple aluminum cans in the trash while at work.

I help keep the Bauxite miners, aluminum smelters, and landfill personnel with jobs.


37 posted on 04/26/2009 6:41:06 PM PDT by Chewbacca (Buy gold and silver coins to profit from the comming dollar melt down!)
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To: llevrok
When the ice maker in Maureen Schlangen's 12-year-old refrigerator went kaput, she didn't have the fridge hauled to a landfill.

Would some idiot actually throw away a working refrigerator just because the icemaker broke?

38 posted on 04/26/2009 7:51:32 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: goodnesswins

You got it and....good for you. Gotta watch out for us 58 and OLDER (like me) ladies. :)


39 posted on 04/26/2009 10:07:10 PM PDT by cubreporter (Rush Limbaugh - Truth, honesty and the American Way. Go Rush!!!)
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To: alfie

Well, I’m sure you learned much more than you ever realized just by being in the house and not hanging out with anyone inparticular. That’s how we all learn...watching, examples etc. We DID learn lots from our parents when they taught us and then we learned lots from them just by being around them. That’s what parents are for. Today? Not so much because so many work. It’s a crying shame but...guess I’m just old fashioned and would rather do with less yet have so much more. :)


40 posted on 04/26/2009 10:10:04 PM PDT by cubreporter (Rush Limbaugh - Truth, honesty and the American Way. Go Rush!!!)
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To: raybbr
My husband taught himself to do all that, All I have to say is that I am either calling a repairman or buying a new something and Voila! it is fixed almost immediately.

One of the last saves was our ancient dryer. We had purchased two of the same model over time from a repair shop that resold them cheap. He just cannibalized one to get the part for the other and it has now worked an extra 6 months. A screw froze and broke in the lawn tractor/mower. We went on line and for $12 with shipping, the part is on its way. I love it.

We both came from families that never repaired anything. It made a mess, or got oil on the driveway or just wasn't something they understood. My husband would have loved to have taken auto or wood shop, but was discouraged from doing that. But he understands how things work and reads the manuals. Even I have learned to at least figure out what is wrong with something, even if I usually can't do anything about it. But, then, I am spoiled.

41 posted on 04/27/2009 8:02:46 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Are we at high crimes or misdemeanors, yet?)
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To: Kieri

I saw an article recently on the Frugal Dad blog about repurposing an old laptop with a defunct battery to use as a netbook. He installed the Linux Ubuntu operating system. Pretty interesting stuff. If all you need is to surf and check email you don’t need a supercharged computer and Linus is perfect for that. It’s fun to play with, too.

Puppy Linux is even slimmer, letting you boot from a thumb drive.

http://www.puppylinux.org/


42 posted on 04/27/2009 9:22:00 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: cripplecreek

You can sell them on Etsy too:

http://www.etsy.com/


43 posted on 04/27/2009 9:23:43 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: cubreporter

You might enjoy our survival thread. We could use a new poster like you there:

Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2181392/posts


44 posted on 04/27/2009 9:25:53 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Another addition:

Use old suitcases to keep all these items secure. When you need them just pick them up by the handle and you are ready to “rock and roll.” :) Someone told me to do that with old photo albums and all that kind of thing. Especially good for those living in high fire areas or floods where you are needing to evac in a HURRY.


45 posted on 04/27/2009 1:14:12 PM PDT by cubreporter (Rush Limbaugh - Truth, honesty and the American Way. Go Rush!!!)
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To: diamond6

Thank YOU!!!


46 posted on 04/27/2009 1:14:59 PM PDT by cubreporter (Rush Limbaugh - Truth, honesty and the American Way. Go Rush!!!)
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To: goodnesswins

GOOD JOB!!


47 posted on 04/27/2009 1:24:35 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Think free or die

And isn’t there a real satisfaction to take something old and banged up and then restore it to something useful and beautiful once again? Why pay for new? Go to garage sales and flea markets. Bargain, bargain, bargain. Bring home your finds and go for it.

As for cooking from scratch...I know it takes a little longer as do you but...it IS worth it when we know we fixed it with clean hands and we put in the food what WE want in there. It really doesn’t take long to grab some fresh veggies, wash them good and then put them in a pan to cook while doing other things. A simple, nutritious meal can be on the table by the time everyone goes and gets changed from school or work and does all the things they do before eating dinner. One child can set the table. Whomever does the cooking does NOT have to clear the table or clean up. That is for the ones who were off doing something else while one person was doing the cooking. It CAN be done and can be done systematically when everyone has a chore and pulls together. If not...then that’s chaos and ... nothing we can do about that. That’s something that has to be solved by each individual family. Sometimes...I think we make life TOO HARD on ourselves and...I wish most people would remember we don’t have to wait for government to do things FOR us or TELL us when or what we should do. We KNOW what to do and if we don’t...we are all smarter than the government thinks we are and therefore...we can figure it out on our own. They don’t know what they are doing anyway. It’s up to all of us to take care of ourselves.


48 posted on 04/27/2009 1:42:24 PM PDT by cubreporter (Rush Limbaugh - Truth, honesty and the American Way. Go Rush!!!)
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To: cubreporter

Your welcome :)


49 posted on 04/27/2009 8:00:24 PM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: cubreporter

I hope my kids look up to me the same way you look up to yours.


50 posted on 04/27/2009 8:01:11 PM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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