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Cantor, Obama let sparks fly
Politico.com ^ | 4/27/2009 | PATRICK O'CONNOR

Posted on 04/27/2009 5:15:41 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies

At the White House meeting — Cantor was the last of the Republican leaders to arrive — Obama brought up the letter and noted that not a single House Republican had backed his economic stimulus bill. According to a firsthand account of the meeting, Cantor took exception: “With all due respect, Mr. President, we offered you ideas on the stimulus plan directly, and they were ignored completely.”

Cantor suggested that if he were to view the stimulus negotiations through a partisan lens, he would argue Democrats started the “party of no” name-calling about the same time that Obama was meeting with House Republicans to discuss the stimulus plan.

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1 posted on 04/27/2009 5:15:41 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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Interesting, I can’t help but think if pres. Bush had held a similar meeting with Democrats back in the early 2000’s, things might have turned out differently. Pres. Bush caved on many things when he should have stood firm...tell the Dems, either you are part of the process or not...but I am the President...and will ultimately decide.


2 posted on 04/27/2009 5:25:29 AM PDT by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy Amrican or bye bye America)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Obama pointedly reminded Cantor that he was the president — and that he reserves the right to disagree with whatever cuts the Republican whip recommends.

Nothing new here, just like the stimulus plan, Zero will ignore the Republican's suggestions.

3 posted on 04/27/2009 5:27:59 AM PDT by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: Wilum

Pick the Target. Freeze it. Personalize it. and Polarize it


4 posted on 04/27/2009 5:35:05 AM PDT by downwdims (It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Hmmm...let me get this straight. Obama is saying to Republicans either you go along with whatever I say or you are not invited to the party. When Cantor comments that not the way bipartisan works he becomes “Dr. No”.

Further Repbulicans are “picking at a scab” when they object to Obama’s view of bipartisan.

Well I say that the real problem is when Obama gets a simple jab he is so thin skinned that a scab forms and underneath is a festering abscess so I hope Canter will keep picking at Obama’s scabs and exposing the puss that is behind them.

5 posted on 04/27/2009 5:35:07 AM PDT by when the time is right
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To: nyconse

He wasn’t the decider until what 2005 2006? Until then it was the new tone


6 posted on 04/27/2009 5:36:59 AM PDT by downwdims (It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority)
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To: when the time is right

He doesn’t take criticism well. Look back at how he went after MoDo when she wrote about his ears. He’s a light weight, consumed on image. That’s why that celebutard ad really pissed him off.


7 posted on 04/27/2009 5:38:26 AM PDT by downwdims (It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Any military person knows how to translate “with all due respect...”: No respect intended and none to be implied. Good for you, Mr. Cantor!


8 posted on 04/27/2009 5:46:40 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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“Obama acknowledged that, in recent weeks, he has received tea bags from Americans upset by the government’s decision to spend trillions of dollars shoring up the economy”

KEEP SENDING THEM FOLKS!!


9 posted on 04/27/2009 5:47:38 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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“Obama asked Cantor to present him with a list of places where the federal government could save more money. The self-described conservative eagerly agreed.”

““You can expect us to have something very soon,” Cantor said, explaining that he’s “looking for wherever there is waste or duplicative spending.””

How about taking some initiative, “Republicans”.

Why didn't Cantor come to the meeting with a list?

“Republicans” need to be told what to do? Our “Republicans” are not action oriented. If they have principles, they sure as hell don't demonstrate them.

10 posted on 04/27/2009 5:48:00 AM PDT by ryan71 (Time to buy guns and ammo, People.)
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To: downwdims
He doesn’t take criticism well.

If the Republicans were smart (sigh, I know) they'd use that against him. It does not take much prompting (tele-prompting?) to get under Obama's skin. Just bait the trap and spring it. Lather, rinse. repeat - until he's chasing his tail full time rather than exploring new ways to crush our economic freedom. Alinsky's tactics don't just work for leftists, you know. One can be a political guerrilla and still bathe and wear clean underwear.

11 posted on 04/27/2009 5:52:31 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Also from Politico, a few days ago:

http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0409/cantor_wants_fresh_start_4f0ea748-3f8b-4430-8358-158de614bd44.html

“House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said ahead of a meeting at the White House Thursday that Obama and Republicans on Capitol Hill have gotten off on the wrong foot.

“The first 100 days have not been the best days for bipartisanship,” Cantor said during an interview on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

“We’ve got some very serious issues, and I do think now that we can come together,” he said. “We can do better.”

WILL THE REAL ERIC CANTOR PLEASE STAND UP??!?


12 posted on 04/27/2009 5:56:44 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Party? I don't have one anymore.)
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Although Cantor is hardly a household name, the Virginia Republican is bearing the brunt of the Democrats’ inside-the-Beltway attacks. That’s because Democrats — who are casting about for notable villains following the retirements of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney — have seized on him as the embodiment of GOP recalcitrance during the early months of Obama’s presidency.

Straight out of the democrat's playbook.

13 posted on 04/27/2009 5:56:52 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

No Wagyu beef for you!


14 posted on 04/27/2009 6:12:29 AM PDT by pke
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Obama pointedly reminded Cantor that he was the president

Why does Zero keep doing that?

Sounds like a guy who is INSECURE and supporting an over-sized ego.

15 posted on 04/27/2009 6:14:19 AM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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It is practically a psychological definition of the LEFT that the LEFTIST is incapable of accommodating a viewpoint, or analysis, other than their own.

We have a politician in our county with such a mindset, it is almost palpable: let's everyone get together on this, when it is my opinion or agenda, other alternatives are not considered.

It is to the point that we really don't think that person can actually understand, intellectually, anything other than his own internal world. When one thinks about it this is really a criminal pathology, for instance when one walks into a mom and pop laundry, sticks a gun at the owner's head and demands the cash register, that one is hardly considering the work the owners have accomplished, their children at home, etc.etc.

In the technical realm one of the sad states of the United States is that genuine science or engineering requires one to be trained, open, and objective about all possibilities, but that investment has plummeted here.

Lawyers on the other hand, especially criminal lawyers, are trained to be bigots. That is what they get paid for, and is what they convince themselves to pursue in every case. They might say they want the "truth," but rather operate to win the "game" despite the truth. The United States of course has far more lawyers per capita than ANY other nation. And drastically decreasing engineers.

This is a deep psychopathology crossing all recorded history. The great modern elucidation is Jayne's The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, but many many classics reveal the same struggle.

Just observe Rahm Emmanuel, or BHO himself, for a few sessions, and it will become apparent. You can also include most Harvard products.

Johnny Suntrade

16 posted on 04/27/2009 6:26:30 AM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: capt. norm
Sounds like a guy who is INSECURE and supporting an over-sized ego.

In addition, I think that Obama has an inaccurate view of the Presidency...which is the result of not having studied American history.

He seems to see the Presidency as giving him greater authority than it actually does. His view of the Presidency seems somehow psychological intertwined with his own (malignant) narcissism such that, in his case, he is the King and not merely an elected official.

I think he might even have a distorted idea of how much power actual kings had in history. As any student of history knows, most kings held tenuous and fluctuating power over the various fiefdoms within their realm. If Obama had studied history instead of Alinsky, he would know that.

17 posted on 04/27/2009 6:33:51 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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Julian Jayne's The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind is one of my favorite books, but I'm not sure I understand your point as to its involvement in the left's exclusion of divergent arguments and its (the left's) general intellectual dishonesty (though I heartily agree with your points about the left).

Any help would be much appreciated.

18 posted on 04/27/2009 6:40:56 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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Folks, our thug-ass terrorist-in-chief, B. Hussein Obama will never leave office, even if he is defeated in 2012. Mark my words....president for life.
19 posted on 04/27/2009 6:43:26 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (I am an extremist that was created by Butch Napolitano.)
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0bama will not be happy until Republicans retreat back to their 1967 borders. (Yes, I am making that comparison.)
20 posted on 04/27/2009 6:44:36 AM PDT by Excellence (What Madoff is to finance Gore is to global warming.)
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