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A Better Way (A guest-worker program is the best way to handle American immigration)
National Review ^ | 4/27/2009 | Mallory Factor

Posted on 04/27/2009 7:35:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 04/27/2009 7:35:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Good post.


2 posted on 04/27/2009 7:38:57 AM PDT by jimt
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To: SeekAndFind

I see that some agribusiness shill got their article published in the National Review.

To claim that the US has been serious about immigration enforcement in the last few decades is akin to railing over how “9/11 was an inside job”.


3 posted on 04/27/2009 7:39:29 AM PDT by oscars300
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To: SeekAndFind

Guest worker programs have worked so well in Europe. /sarc


4 posted on 04/27/2009 7:42:55 AM PDT by dirtboy
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What a heaping pile of crap. The GOP is boought and paid for by corporate interests. We don't need guest workers, especially with 13.3 million Americans out of work. And guest workers don't go home. .

Professional Guestworker Visas and Employment Opportunities for U.S. Workers

5 posted on 04/27/2009 7:45:57 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

We’ve had guest worker programs for my entire 44 years on this planet.

The truth is that somebody wants a new round of guest worker programs, then another, then another, then another.


6 posted on 04/27/2009 7:46:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: dirtboy

It works very well in Singapore ( Filipino, Indonesian and Thai domestic workers ) and Hongkong ( the same ).

We can learn from their example.


7 posted on 04/27/2009 7:46:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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We’ve had guest worker programs for my entire 44 years on this planet.

We had the Braceros program many decades ago. I heard that worked pretty well.
8 posted on 04/27/2009 7:47:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Here is the key paragraph from US History ( from the article ) :

” In the 1940s, the U.S. faced labor shortages in agriculture stemming from World War II. The government established the bracero program, which allowed hundreds of thousands of Mexican migrants to enter the country as seasonal laborers. The result was a 95 percent drop in illegal border crossings. A 1980 Congressional Research Service report concluded that “without question” the program was “instrumental in ending the illegal alien problem of the mid-1940s and 1950s.”

The program worked because it acknowledged human nature and economic reality. But it was phased out in the 1960s amid opposition from labor unions. “


9 posted on 04/27/2009 7:49:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I think they went back and read some of my old posts for this article.


10 posted on 04/27/2009 7:49:22 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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Singapore is a small, authoritarian, tightly-controlled country. The US is the opposite.

If we truly need guest workers, bring them in as legal immigrants. We don't need to create a lower tier of guest workers that has no incentive to assimilate. That is largely what has caused the problems in Europe.

11 posted on 04/27/2009 7:50:09 AM PDT by dirtboy
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The program worked because it acknowledged human nature and economic reality.

The economic reality now is that we have eight percent unemployment, and we don't need more workers at the moment, we have to get our current workers re-employed.

12 posted on 04/27/2009 7:51:09 AM PDT by dirtboy
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A guest worker program would be good but the workers must come in through the front door, and leave when required, perhaps incentivized to do so by levying an additional 10~20% "tax" on their wages that can be reclaimed upon exiting the US.

The border still needs to be secured and current immigration laws should still be enforced - against illegals and their employers.

13 posted on 04/27/2009 7:54:35 AM PDT by DTogo (Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
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The program worked because it acknowledged human nature and economic reality. But it was phased out in the 1960s amid opposition from labor unions. “

And we have guest worker programs today and it's not working at all. Attempting to tag it to unions doesn't phase me a bit BTW.
14 posted on 04/27/2009 7:59:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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The economic reality now is that we have eight percent unemployment,

I highly doubt the accuracy of the above 8% figure.
15 posted on 04/27/2009 8:03:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I highly doubt the accuracy of the above 8% figure.

If anything, the real number is quite a bit higher. Which is an even bigger reason to not allow in foreign workers, other than those few required to meet a bona fide shortage, until the economy improves.

16 posted on 04/27/2009 8:05:34 AM PDT by dirtboy
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Yes, many don’t realize there are many legal ways for people from other countries to enter the U.S., and to live and/or work here. Not only are there several legal ways to accomplish this- we allow more citizens of Mexico into the U.S. through various legal means than from any other country- by far.

The media and politicians have deliberately clouded this issue so many believe there is no legal way for Mexicans to come here to live or work. The truth is many who enter illegally do so because they cannot do so legally because they have a criminal record either in Mexico or the U.S. The illegal entries are for the most part not the people we should want here at all.

It really is a simple topic- illegal is illegal and should not be allowed to continue.


17 posted on 04/27/2009 8:08:59 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The second any ‘Guest Worker’ sets foot on US soil the Democrat party rushes to provide a Green Card, welfare, and a ballot. Who is going to send the guest home? No one, and this shill knows it.


18 posted on 04/27/2009 8:22:04 AM PDT by Plutarch
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Exactly, with all the legal means we have (more than ever before), illegal immigration is at an all time high.


19 posted on 04/27/2009 8:22:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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So if we want to reduce the number of illegal entries, the best course is to give workers more legal channels.

Well intended article, but I have to disagree with htis statement. While it may have some effect, the real way to reduce illegal immigration is to remove the magnet(s). No more public services for illegals...period. No more anchor babies.

20 posted on 04/27/2009 8:23:06 AM PDT by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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