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Obama Officials Says Americans Use Too Much Health Care
Fox News ^ | April 27th, 2009 | John R. Lott, Jr.

Posted on 04/27/2009 8:26:48 AM PDT by richardb72

“If you got health insurance, then you can keep it . . . and we won’t do anything about that,” at least that was what President Obama promised during the campaign last year. Well, add that to a very long list of broken campaign promises, including: cutting government spending, reducing the deficit, and “no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase.”

Just as bad, on Friday it was revealed that Obama and the Democrats have no problem pushing through Senate votes on these radical health care changes that strip away normal procedural protections for those who oppose such changes.

Last Sunday on “Meet the Press,” Larry Summers, Obama’s chief economic adviser, let the cat out of the bag on health care. In explaining why universal health care wasn’t going to increase the deficit, Summers said that people are just getting too much unnecessary care. Summers claimed: “whether it’s tonsillectomies or hysterectomies . . . procedures are done three times as frequently [in some parts of the country than others] and there’s no benefit in terms of the health of the population. And by doing the right kind of cost-effectiveness, by making the right kinds of investments and protection, some experts that we — estimate that we could take as much as $700 billion a year out of our health care system.”

This sure seems like rationing. . . . .

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1 posted on 04/27/2009 8:26:48 AM PDT by richardb72
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To: richardb72

So screwed...


2 posted on 04/27/2009 8:27:38 AM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: richardb72

I’d agree with this... if it was only applied to people who pay nothing for their healthcare and abuse what is given to them by the taxpayer.


3 posted on 04/27/2009 8:28:35 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: richardb72

Thanks to the democrat trial lawyers, many tests are just done to cya.


4 posted on 04/27/2009 8:28:49 AM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: Crazieman

totally..


5 posted on 04/27/2009 8:28:58 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: icwhatudo

Absolutely. I’m looking at you John Edwards.

BTW, what’s the cost of a paternity test?


6 posted on 04/27/2009 8:30:12 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: richardb72

that would be the illegals and the low lives that walk into and E.R. and demand service. OH, after an E.R. doc does a complete OB test because the patient complained of stumac pains and he informes her she is not pregaunt, she says “Well good” Dr. says, “Well why did not you take a home pregnancy test?” Patient, “Well it is free here”


7 posted on 04/27/2009 8:31:21 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: richardb72
>>>>>"... some experts that we — estimate that we could take as much as $700 billion a year out of our health care system.”

To spend on deadbeats. Typical liberal tripe.

8 posted on 04/27/2009 8:31:45 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: richardb72

Yo, Larry:

Define “Right Kind”? ALso, Right kind in who’s opinion? Surely not yours, you insipid moron.


9 posted on 04/27/2009 8:32:30 AM PDT by roaddog727 (Built Ford tough not Obama weak.)
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To: richardb72

Here we go... hang on !


10 posted on 04/27/2009 8:32:37 AM PDT by Reagan69 (No Representation without Taxation !)
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To: richardb72

Not to worry....UHC will see to this.


11 posted on 04/27/2009 8:34:15 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: richardb72

Just damn. He’s TRYING to lose independents.


12 posted on 04/27/2009 8:34:44 AM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: pnh102

I basically agree too. So the last thing we need is a government entitlement or mandate to use even more.


13 posted on 04/27/2009 8:35:07 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: richardb72

Nice. Who didn’t see this coming?


14 posted on 04/27/2009 8:35:11 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: richardb72
In explaining why universal health care wasn’t going to increase the deficit, Summers said that people are just getting too much unnecessary care. Summers claimed: “whether it’s tonsillectomies or hysterectomies . . . procedures are done three times as frequently [in some parts of the country than others] and there’s no benefit in terms of the health of the population. And by doing the right kind of cost-effectiveness, by making the right kinds of investments and protection, some experts that we — estimate that we could take as much as $700 billion a year out of our health care system.”

The rationing of services begins now.

If they REALLY wanted to address unnecessary costly services, they would prohibit illegal immigration and crack down on people who go to hospital emergency rooms for basic (non-emergency) services and never pay.

15 posted on 04/27/2009 8:36:39 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: richardb72

Not a one of these pukes is a doctor. They are all lawyers and they’re looking at disease and aging like they might look at tort reform.


16 posted on 04/27/2009 8:36:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ElayneJ

The 0bama voters?


17 posted on 04/27/2009 8:37:47 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 98 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: richardb72; HiJinx

Obama Officials Says Americans Use Too Much Health Care


How much free (taxpayer funded) health care do illegal immigrants use?

18 posted on 04/27/2009 8:39:05 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: richardb72
...there’s no benefit in terms of the health of the population.

Well, there you go. We're just not being group-think-y enough for 'em.

How dare you think of your own health, instead of "the health of the population"!

19 posted on 04/27/2009 8:39:10 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: richardb72
Summers claimed: “whether it’s tonsillectomies or hysterectomies . . . procedures are done three times as frequently [in some parts of the country than others] and there’s no benefit in terms of the health of the population.

He sounds like a marvelous doctor. I wonder if he's taking on new patients....oh wait...

20 posted on 04/27/2009 8:39:18 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Talk is cheap...except when Congress does it.)
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To: null and void

Yes. I think they believed he was going to make it all appear out of thin air.


21 posted on 04/27/2009 8:39:46 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: null and void

bttt


22 posted on 04/27/2009 8:40:40 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: richardb72

Rationed healthcare for you, but NOT for the More-Equalz-Democrat-Pigz in charge.

THEY are just too important, and too vital, to have THIER healthcare rationed.

FASCISM-It’s what they voted for...


23 posted on 04/27/2009 8:40:41 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: icwhatudo
many tests are just done to cya.

Bingo.

24 posted on 04/27/2009 8:40:42 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (I want President Obama AND his policies to fail.)
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To: ElayneJ
Or, out of other people's thin air...
25 posted on 04/27/2009 8:41:09 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 98 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: richardb72

Socialized Medicine == Rationed Medicine


26 posted on 04/27/2009 8:42:59 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (To stand up for Capitalism is to hope Teleprompter Boy fails.)
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To: ElayneJ

“Nice. Who didn’t see this coming?”

I just got an email from a blind chipmunk.

He said “told you so”.


27 posted on 04/27/2009 8:43:23 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Enemy of the state since 1978!)
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To: BuffaloJack

You have to give it to Obama, his is a rational approach. < /sarc >

Your access to healthcare will be rationed.


28 posted on 04/27/2009 8:44:08 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: tcrlaf

Joycelyn Elders also said that too much money is spent on extending the life of old people “who are just gonna die anyway”.

The big government that provides for your daily existence/survival is also big enough to take it all away.


29 posted on 04/27/2009 8:45:45 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: richardb72
longevity has steadily increased over many years, but Obama and his band of cut-throats say it is too high and they will decrease it. They will arbitrarily decide who gets medical attention and who does not.

Now, here is your homework. What other countries already do that?? What country is his unmistakable model??

30 posted on 04/27/2009 8:46:26 AM PDT by elpadre (Afganista)
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To: richardb72
This sure seems like rationing. . . . .

It sure does.

This is a created crises. The Clintons wanted a fascist take over of the health care industry, so they sent out their trial lawyers to destroy it. Now, people cannot afford it because of litigation costs.
There is no health care crises. There's a manufactured legal crises.

Instead of a government take over, we need a cleaning up of the legal system. That way, Americans can still be have their liberty, and our health care system could go back to being the great system it was before the power hungry politicians got involved.

The left wants to take over heath care because the grasshoppers have out numbered the ants (which is why they're trying to take over banks, car companies, manufacturing through environmental litigation, etc.). They need more money for Medicaid and Medicare, but they'll lose elections if they just take it. Instead, they'll "share" the costs across the board. Those who can pay will still pay, and those who can't won't, but all will get equal, substandard Medicare type heath care. The taxpayers will be voluntary slaves once again "for the sake of the collective."

31 posted on 04/27/2009 8:48:50 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: richardb72

Soon you won’t be allowed to pay cash for health care.

You know, ‘cause it’s not fair.

Good thing I know doctors. I can trade favors.


32 posted on 04/27/2009 8:49:24 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: richardb72
They look at us as a herd, not as individuals.

there’s no benefit in terms of the health of the population.

33 posted on 04/27/2009 8:53:15 AM PDT by DManA
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To: richardb72

You old far*& are just living too da&* long!!!Screwing up Our Magnificent Plans for an American Utopia.


34 posted on 04/27/2009 8:55:55 AM PDT by mo
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To: richardb72

"There will NEVER be healthcare rationing ... for us."


35 posted on 04/27/2009 9:01:14 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: elpadre
They will arbitrarily decide who gets medical attention and who does not.

When ever the right tried to speak up and save the life of an unborn child (an innocent person), we heard the left say "We have the right to our own bodies. Government should stay out of our uterus's!"

Now, the government wants total, absolute control over every organ in everyone elses body - and the left is all for it.

It's not about the right to their bodies, obviously. It's about being pro-death. Next they'll go after the elderly as "useless eaters", and government control could actually mandate it. It's all about the lefts lust for innocent blood. It has nothing to do with liberty.

36 posted on 04/27/2009 9:01:43 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: richardb72
Yeah and Larry Summers should have had his mouth sewn shut when they removed his brain. Lordy, these thugs are arrogant. Nice to know that medical procedures are now an economists specialty
37 posted on 04/27/2009 9:06:43 AM PDT by the long march
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To: richardb72
Summers said that people are just getting too much unnecessary care

Oh god... Obama's minions have NO freakin' clue what is going to happen when Health care is cheap or free...

38 posted on 04/27/2009 9:10:02 AM PDT by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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To: DManA
They look at us as a herd, not as individuals.

Yes. Left wing politicians are totalitarians, i.e., total control freaks -- but they're losing that control. The democrat base have been found WANTING, and wanting, and wanting......

Today, the grasshoppers have out numbered the ants. Without grasshoppers, the socialists lose elections. The grasshoppers must be fed, so the democrats are going to take over every American business they can while they can, because an obvious tax increase is out of the question. The tax slaves will rebel. If they can take total control of Americas financial, health, food, and manufacturing systems, the can take all they want and no one could stop them. Everything would be equally shared ...... except the labor.

39 posted on 04/27/2009 9:11:11 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: TexasNative2000

Yes, on many tests, referrals, etc. I am not one to go to the doctor for much of anything other than routine exams (luckily pretty healthy!), but saw one in February for a minor infection in my finger. Got some antibiotics. He was ready to do an Xray, do blood tests, send me to orthopedic specialist, etc., if I wanted to have it checked further. Many people would have taken up on the referrals.


40 posted on 04/27/2009 9:11:18 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: concerned about politics
Next they'll go after the elderly as "useless eaters", and government control could actually mandate it.

Homosexuals will receive full, unrestricted care for AIDS. To pay for that, families with 2 children will not be covered for a third.

Abortions will be fully funded. To pay for that, they will cut abstinence education spending.

Illegal aliens with Mexican Flu will be fully covered. To pay for that, they will cut flu shots for the elderly.

41 posted on 04/27/2009 9:13:52 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: richardb72

Summers is correct. Too many people run to the doctor at the first sniffle because the cost of the visit is either free (at least to the patient) or a nominal co-pay. Back in the 60’s and 70’s many health insurance plans required the patient to pay the entire bill at the point of service and then seek reimbursment from the insurance compnay and as a result, many people did not seek medical treatment for the common cold or a headache.


42 posted on 04/27/2009 9:14:35 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: elpadre
They will arbitrarily decide who gets medical attention and who does not.

And will be promptly booted from power as soon as the American people return to the voting booth.

43 posted on 04/27/2009 9:18:27 AM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: John123
Summers said that people are just getting too much unnecessary care

We're paying for it. We should be able to buy any kind of service we want. Who is she to tell us what we can and cannot buy with our own wages?

Of course, the dependent grasshoppers have become too expensive for the lefts politicians to support, so they're going to steal everyone elses freedom to make sure the democrat base gets their monthly serving of government slop.

44 posted on 04/27/2009 9:20:11 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Crazieman

#*#%$#**** MORONS!!! Tonsillectomies are not done only because of a sore throat and even then, who wants to live with a constant sore throat? Also they often are strep infections that have to constantly be treated with antibiotics. Then the antibiotics don’t work any longer. I know, it happened to me and at the age of 18 I finally had them removed, never a problem again.


45 posted on 04/27/2009 9:24:23 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: NEMDF
He was ready to do an Xray, do blood tests, send me to orthopedic specialist, etc., if I wanted to have it checked further. Many people would have taken up on the referrals.

He feared trial lawyer litigation. If he hadn't done that and your finger got worse, he could have been facing a lawsuit worth millions

When the left decides it wants to take something over, it destroyes what we have in existance first, so they can rebuild it in their own image. This is what we've seen in the schools, health care, housing, etc.

46 posted on 04/27/2009 9:25:49 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: a fool in paradise

You have to give it to Obama, his is a rational approach. < /sarc >

Your access to healthcare will be rationed
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ONLY if you accept it which many here seem resigned to the fact that the government controls every aspect of their lives and they have to accept it. The defeatist attitude here is very discouraging at times. I find Socialized, rationed health care TOTALLY unacceptable and I say HELL NO!


47 posted on 04/27/2009 9:27:01 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: richardb72
Obama Says Americans Use Too Much Health Care

Easy for a Kenyan to say.

48 posted on 04/27/2009 9:32:38 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: MeanWestTexan
Good thing I know doctors. I can trade favors.

Good thing I don't have a dirty mind, LOL!

Heck, in my case the doctor forces me to come in at least once a year, he threatens to cut off my meds if I don't. Other than that, I've got to be at death's door before I go to the doctor.

Obama will force everyone into this as the private companies won't be able to compete and will eventually go out of business because people won't be able to pay the increased premiums they will have to charge.

49 posted on 04/27/2009 9:53:39 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: elpadre

Ireland was debating “involuntary euthanasia” last week.


50 posted on 04/27/2009 9:54:02 AM PDT by DFG
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