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Swine flu fears close schools in NY, Texas, Calif
Associated Press ^ | 4/27/09 | KAREN MATTHEWS

Posted on 04/27/2009 9:41:36 AM PDT by Braak

sti Lamonaca's illness started with a high fever, a cough and achy bones, just a couple of days after she returned from a spring break trip on the beach in Cancun with friends. By the weekend, her voice was hoarse and she was wearing a surgical mask.

The 18-year-old senior was one of a dozen students from several New York City high schools who traveled to Mexico earlier this month, and she thinks she has swine flu. Health officials have confirmed that eight students from her school have been infected with the strain, which has caused a deadly outbreak in Mexico. And they predict the number will grow once additional students, including Lamonaca, are tested.

Authorities in the United States have confirmed 20 cases of swine flu.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: chimeraflu; flu; influenza; mexicanflu; mexicanswineflu; mexico; mexiflu; newyork; schools; swineflu
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I just heard ON CNN that the hospitals in NYC are taking inventory of Tamaflu and other anti-virals and the military has sent out a worldwide caution. Perhaps this isn't much, but if the powers that be are this nervous...that should tell us something. I think it's BLOAT and pray time.
1 posted on 04/27/2009 9:41:36 AM PDT by Braak
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To: Braak

“BLOAT”

???


2 posted on 04/27/2009 9:44:47 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Braak

Any excuse to stop the learnin’ process.

I got a daughter, 18, graduating high scool with almost a 4.0 gpa. Every single college entrance exam she takes ranks her ineligible to take college level classes and is forcing her to take high school level catch up courses in the fall.

When the scool gives out A’s, a student thinks she doesn’t have to work any harder.

My daughter is another casualty in the failed education system. If her dad holds the high school accountable and keeps her out for let’s say 8 days, they should deny her graduation based on attendance issues and make her stay for another year. She will hate and never talk to her dad again. At 18 actually, I can’t force anything.


3 posted on 04/27/2009 9:48:25 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

I think buy lots of ammo today


4 posted on 04/27/2009 9:48:31 AM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (Tagline Repair Services Available!)
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To: Braak

Culling the herd.


5 posted on 04/27/2009 9:50:36 AM PDT by waus (FUBO UFCMF)
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To: George from New England
My daughter is another casualty in the failed education system. If her dad holds the high school accountable...

Are you her step-dad or are you speaking in third person?

6 posted on 04/27/2009 9:55:35 AM PDT by library user
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Buy Lots Of Ammo Time


7 posted on 04/27/2009 9:57:26 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: George from New England

I’m not trying to be too harsh here, but you didn’t realize that she wasn’t doing what she was supposed to do. Does your daughter like to read?

I would recommend that you get your daughter tested for a learning disability (like dyslexia). Another year of school will not help her if she has a learning disability. She needs to be taught differently if she has one.

I realized in 3rd grade that one of my daughters wasn’t reading well even though the school district said she was fine. We had my daughter tested, and she had auditory processing problems and dyslexia. She went into a program for dsylexics (Barton Reading) for 2 years, and now at 12 she is reading up a storm.

I have a nephew that just flunked out of college at 25. His dad (my borther) died after a long battle with cancer when my nephew was a freshman in college. Because his parents were busy with the cancer I think they missed that my nephew migh have some learning difficulties. I thought it was really strange that my nephew does not like to read. That is one of the big signs for dyslexia.

Good luck to you and your daughter.


8 posted on 04/27/2009 9:57:54 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Braak

Obama Flu.


9 posted on 04/27/2009 9:58:44 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Braak

Perhaps I’m the only one with lots of neighbors from Mexico. They go back there from time to time. Their kids go to school with my kids. Am I paranoid in being a bit concerned? Does anyone think U.S. or local health departments will even mention this?


10 posted on 04/27/2009 10:12:15 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Tu ne cede malis.)
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To: Braak

I’m getting in the shower.


11 posted on 04/27/2009 10:12:24 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: Revolting cat!

The Obama Flu has really rained on the One’s 100 day celebration by the media. I bet he is really ticked off. May be he will have to work next weekend!


12 posted on 04/27/2009 10:16:16 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Just posted this:

Science Races to Parse New Virus ( Swine Flu )

13 posted on 04/27/2009 10:17:28 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: proudtobeanamerican1

Got it in one...I just don’t think this is the be-all of it. I am not saying panic..but I think some prudence is in order. What concerns me is the fact the disease has spread like it has (yes, air travel, I know), and the mystery on why there are only reported fatalities in Mexico? Here is another question, most influenza strains originate in China IIRC? How does this one start in Mexico? Might Patient Zero be someone who’s on a Chinese freighter right now who had paid a visit to some girl in Tampico or Veracruz? Food for thought...food for thought.


14 posted on 04/27/2009 10:23:46 AM PDT by Braak (The US Military, the real arms inspectors!)
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To: George from New England
My daughter is another casualty in the failed education system

She is nearing graduation and her parents did not know that she wasn't academically qualified for college?

Parents are part of any education system and blaming the school or "the system" only shows parents who are bucking responsibility.

But that is typical in today's society, isn't it?

15 posted on 04/27/2009 10:23:58 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Defending RINOs is the same as defending Liberals.)
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To: Braak

The earthquake in Mexico won’t help matters.


16 posted on 04/27/2009 10:24:51 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Braak; TornadoAlley3

Scotland’s Health Minister just confirmed two swine flu cases there.


17 posted on 04/27/2009 10:28:17 AM PDT by lainie (The US congress is full to the brim of absolutely disgusting thieves who deserve humiliating ouster.)
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To: a fool in paradise
I’m getting in the shower.

It won't save you from the flu. ; )

If I recall, when I was younger and through most of my life the "flu" was too common and I was hit several times with it.

Now we are all going to die because of it unless we become hermits to survive?

Our country can't afford to duck and cover in unison because of fear.

18 posted on 04/27/2009 10:29:40 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: luckystarmom

4.0 gpa is as hi as you can get. so she was theoretically doing great. obvioulsy they either handed out A’s like water or the course were very very weak.Thats the kind of thing would be much more difficult for a parent to pick up on.


19 posted on 04/27/2009 10:30:52 AM PDT by wiggen
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To: proudtobeanamerican1

Where are you finding ammo at? lol, I’m lucky if I can find 1 box of .45 a week at wallyworld.


20 posted on 04/27/2009 10:31:45 AM PDT by Ainast
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To: EGPWS
If I recall, when I was younger and through most of my life the "flu" was too common and I was hit several times with it.

Certain mutations of the virus are more deadly than others. While any type of flu can be deadly to the very young and very old, from time to time, certain strains will mutate such that they are deadly to adults. This may be one of those strains.

21 posted on 04/27/2009 10:34:53 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Braak

The teachers with their bureaucrat and trial-lawyer-liability mentality will close school for any reason.


22 posted on 04/27/2009 10:36:27 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Ainast

I haven’t seen anything at Wally World.

We found 40 S W at Kame’s......only kind though.

Kame’s is in OH.


23 posted on 04/27/2009 10:36:43 AM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (Tagline Repair Services Available!)
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To: Publius Valerius
This may be one of those strains.

I see your point.

24 posted on 04/27/2009 10:37:50 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: lainie

Newberry Academy officials in South Carolina said in a statement that seniors were in Mexico earlier this month and some had flu like symptoms when they returned. Calls to the school rang unanswered Monday.


25 posted on 04/27/2009 10:40:35 AM PDT by DvdMom
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To: George from New England

SAT and PSAT? Surely these would have revealed she wasn’t up to speed.


26 posted on 04/27/2009 10:43:10 AM PDT by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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To: DvdMom

Yikes.

Just saw a blip about four Idaho residents being tested, too.


27 posted on 04/27/2009 10:51:02 AM PDT by lainie (The US congress is full to the brim of absolutely disgusting thieves who deserve humiliating ouster.)
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To: EGPWS

CNN’s anchors are debating which face masks are the most effective.

Time-Lies media at its “finest”.


28 posted on 04/27/2009 10:51:15 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: luckystarmom; George from New England
I’m not trying to be too harsh here, but you didn’t realize that she wasn’t doing what she was supposed to do. Does your daughter like to read? I would recommend that you get your daughter tested for a learning disability (like dyslexia). Another year of school will not help her if she has a learning disability. She needs to be taught differently if she has one.

Did you actually read this guy's comment or are you just being obtuse for a reason? He said his daughter has an almost 4.0 average, I would guess he means anything from 3.7 to 3.9 or so. He goes on to say that she can't pass College entrance exams. Now where does that give you the idea he failed her somehow or should have been aware she wasn't learning what she needed to learn? She was bringing home the grades, he trusted the grades to accurately reflect her education, apparently the school was handing out grades they shouldn't have, but your are blaming him! Sometimes there are FReepers that just puzzle me to no end, and right now you are one of them.

29 posted on 04/27/2009 10:51:51 AM PDT by calex59
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To: lainie

A Google swine flu map also mentioned 2 possible cases in Indiana :((


30 posted on 04/27/2009 10:53:13 AM PDT by DvdMom
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To: a fool in paradise
CNN’s anchors are debating which face masks are the most effective.

Government can't make you hold your mouth to your elbow when sneezing...yet... and can't make you wash your hands when the opportunity is there...yet... BUT the government CAN make all of us pay for masks via tax dollars for our own good and our survival.

Pravda (I mean CNN, sorry..) won't promote personal responsibility via the political agenda they tote against it.

31 posted on 04/27/2009 11:00:34 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: Braak
Damn, they way the CDC and people are acting .. this really is starting to look like a pandemic in it's early stages.

I just watched CNN where the disgusting "acting" CDC director tell me that masks don't work ....

What a frakking idiot

32 posted on 04/27/2009 11:01:59 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We either Free America ourselves, or it is midnight for humanity for a thousand years.)
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To: wiggen
Thats the kind of thing would be much more difficult for a parent to pick up on.

Not if they've looked at the work. Do they talk to the kid, know what books are being read?

I caught a teacher cheating for my son. He passed a test that I KNEW he could not pass (because I had studied with him).

33 posted on 04/27/2009 11:02:14 AM PDT by Dianna (Obama Barbie: Governing is hard.)
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To: LikeLight

Yes. The SAT and ACT and local community college all are consistent with each other. It’s the local high school that is making her “feel-good” and graduate, while not giving her the tools she needs to continue.

She is our number four of five child. Our number one has had us pro-occupied for over a year and this senior year of this daughters has slipped by rather unchecked.

Our number one and his wife has two kids that have been kidnapped by the state of Nebraska back on 4/1/2008.


34 posted on 04/27/2009 11:06:18 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: calex59
Now where does that give you the idea he failed her somehow or should have been aware she wasn't learning what she needed to learn? She was bringing home the grades, he trusted the grades to accurately reflect her education, apparently the school was handing out grades they shouldn't have, but your are blaming him!

Yeah, because NO ONE has ever said anything about how weak schools are. It's totally inconceivable that a school would hand out A's for nothing...

10 years ago I would have sympathized with the parent. Now, we've all heard enough that we should be monitoring how our children are doing ourselves.

35 posted on 04/27/2009 11:06:42 AM PDT by Dianna (Obama Barbie: Governing is hard.)
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To: lainie

Google map to track Flu Hot Spots

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&ll=29.22889,-45.351562&spn=121.962479,225&z=2&source=embed


36 posted on 04/27/2009 11:13:15 AM PDT by DvdMom
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To: lainie

According to google map a case in Michigan too :((


37 posted on 04/27/2009 11:14:20 AM PDT by DvdMom
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To: Braak
I am realizing that most of the U.S. cases of this flu are teenagers who either went to Mexico over Spring break, or were around ones who did. Therefore, I have to ask...who the heck as parents allowed their children to go to Mexico when (prior to this flu scare) there have been so many warnings about the crimes, drugs, drug wars there.

Parents who permitted their kids to go, have now, in essence, allowed their kids to bring this flu here. Those kids should never have been in Mexico in the first place. There are plenty of American cities they could have visited and partied in. Why spend the money in Mexico when we already are dealing with subsidizing thousands of illegal Mexican immigrants and Mexico does nothing to keep them from running over our borders. Sometimes people bring on their own dissasters.

38 posted on 04/27/2009 11:14:36 AM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: lainie; tubebender; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Marine_Uncle; blam; SunkenCiv; neverdem

See link at #13....Young may be more vulnerable than us older folks....


39 posted on 04/27/2009 11:17:54 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: George from New England
Yes. The SAT and ACT and local community college all are consistent with each other. It’s the local high school that is making her “feel-good” and graduate, while not giving her the tools she needs to continue.

It's absolutely understandable that this slipped under your radar. You were getting reassuring signs from the school, and had bigger fish to fry. It happens.

What you need to do now is determine whether she has the drive to do the work she's going to need to do now to catch up and whether she has the intellect to catch up. Not everyone is cut out for college work. That isn't a slam, I have a child like that myself.

If you want to go rail at the school board, you can. It might make you feel better to take out your frustration on them. It's unlikely to do any good. They know they've failed these kids. They get all the test scores. You won't be telling them anything they don't already know.

40 posted on 04/27/2009 11:19:40 AM PDT by Dianna (Obama Barbie: Governing is hard.)
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To: DvdMom
I don't disagree with schools who have had more than one sick child closing down for a week. We don't know where this is going and it might short-circuit the infection cycle.

They'll make up the week at the end.

41 posted on 04/27/2009 11:24:40 AM PDT by Dianna (Obama Barbie: Governing is hard.)
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To: Braak
This is a bunch of nonsense. Cases in this country have been very mild from the sounds of it. This is nothing but a sensationalized story by the MSM that our government has decided to use to deflect interest from things that matter.
42 posted on 04/27/2009 11:24:43 AM PDT by whershey
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To: calex59

Yes, I did read that his daughter had good grades. Parents cannot trust public schools (or any schools). Parents need to make sure kids are where they should be academically.

This is from experience and a warning to all parents with kids in school is that you should not trust the school’s assessments. You need to be aware of what your kids are learning not just their grades.

I look at what books my high school son is reading, and then I ask him questions. He has an online math program that his school also uses for Algebra II, and I make sure he is where he should for that. I ask tons of questions about the courses.

This all came about from my 8 year old not be able to read where she was supposed to even though she had high grades. I was told by the school that there was nothing to be worried about. The school was wrong.


43 posted on 04/27/2009 11:25:06 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: wiggen

I understand that. That’s why parents cannot just trust grades.

It’s very sad situation, but parents have to really stay on top of kids even when they have good grades.

My high schooler was telling me about how much cheating went on in his public middle school. He said it was rampant. He’s in a private high school, and he said the teachers there are much smarter about cheating. They have an A/B versions of the tests and kids sitting next to each other do not get the same test.


44 posted on 04/27/2009 11:27:35 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: CitizenM

Some of the private Christian schools have mission trips to Mexico. I know ours had one during our winter break in February. My son wanted to go, but I didn’t let him. Nothing happened to that group.


45 posted on 04/27/2009 11:32:05 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: George from New England
I understand your points fully, George. My daughter had a 3.8 in HS, but it didn't compare to the 3.6 I had in HS. My senior year consisted of classes that included physics and calculus; hers were the standard fare for seniors. Her extracurriculars were much stronger than mine, though: drill team and other activities.

She's in her 4th year in college (on the five year plan), and doing quite well (3.3).

I have a son who is two years younger than she, and he's never been interested in school. We tried everything to keep him up to speed: carrots, sticks, more carrots, Sylvan, you name it. Even letting him have the use of a car for his senior year wasn't enough motivation for him to crack the books. Up until the week of graduation, I wasn't sure he would graduate with his class.

He's now at a local CC, and the importance of an education hasn't sunk in yet. He's paying the freight this semester, as I refused to pour any additional money down the drain. I've seen only minimal effort towards homework, and I highly doubt he'll attain the necessary GPA to get off probation.

He just turned 20, and I'm giving him a choice (should his grades be deficient): vocational school, or the military.

Based on my life experiences, I no longer judge one's parenting skills based upon their child's GPA. Parents are obviously important influences on their child's upbringing, but there's got to be a fire that burns within the child.

Not a day goes by that I don't ask "what could I have done differently?" I doubt that I'll ever come up with the right answer.

Fortunately, we have been blessed with a third child, who is finishing up first grade. He has the same "fire in the belly" that his sister has, and it shows in his schoolwork. He has had the benefit to directly observe how we have interacted with his older siblings, and it's safe to say he likes the carrots more than the sticks.

46 posted on 04/27/2009 11:38:42 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Don't blame me...I voted for Palin!)
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To: luckystarmom

but thats alot more work and we’re talking union labor


47 posted on 04/27/2009 11:41:27 AM PDT by wiggen
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To: Centurion2000

Do masks work because it prevents you from touching your own mouth and nose? That’s what I always thought.


48 posted on 04/27/2009 11:42:00 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: Braak
Found this from AP, Early swine flu victim's widow not told of disease This dude was a brick layer and traveling all over before he succombed to the disease. It sounds like Mexico is dropping the ball in doing much investigation and/or stemming the tide by treating family members of the deceased.

"XONACATLAN, Mexico (AP) — The 39-year-old bricklayer fell ill two weeks ago and became one of the first Mexicans to die of swine flu. But no health worker has come to his home outside Mexico City to offer medicine or ask about the neighbors' pigs.

In fact, Gerardo Leyva Lolis' widow says nobody even told her he died of swine flu until The Associated Press informed her the case had been confirmed by the director of the hospital where he was rushed last week.

The family's experience raises troubling questions about Mexico's response to the epidemic and one of its greatest mysteries: why the disease is killing people in Mexico, but so far nowhere else."..............
49 posted on 04/27/2009 11:55:19 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Braak
Strange thread.

Half the folks are talking about influenza and half about SAT scores.

I'm doubting that this is going to be a pandemic on the scale of 1918 or even the 1968 outbreak. Yes, it's highly contagious but the virulence of this virus appears to be low. That could change in the coming weeks and months but I think the hybrid nature of the virus means that this is not going to be another 1918 or 1968.

I'm waiting to see the fatality rate outside Mexico. I have a bet with myself that it will be fairly low. Folks are becoming alarmed because of the ages of those who've died. I actually think this is reassuring. The absence of a predominantly very young/very old fatality cohort suggests to me that the virus itself is not particularly destructive but rather that in certain individuals with a particular genetic pre-disposition and of a certain age, there may be an overly strong immune reaction which precipitates tissue destruction and severe illness.

I think this outbreak will lead to many infections but that overall fatalities will be modest.

50 posted on 04/27/2009 11:57:02 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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