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Recriminations after NYC jet flyover photo op
AP ^ | 4/28/09 | ULA ILNYTZKY and SARA KUGLER

Posted on 04/28/2009 3:28:35 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy

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The FAA notified the New York Police Department of the flyover..... It had a classified footnote that said,"Information in this document shall not be released to the public or the media."

A very strange event. Many questions need to be answered.

1. Why were the NYC authorities told not to release the info to the public or media prior to the flyover?
2. Why did the NYC authorities go along with this bizarre request?
3. Why didn't Bloomberg know about it?
4. What was the nature and purpose of the "training mission"? To scare the crap out of New Yorkers?
5. Who at the White House originally requested the mission?
6. Who was on board the 747?
7. Why did the plane circle around at low altitude? Why not just flyby and cirle over a less populated area?
8. Who in the White house knew and when did they know it?
9. Why are White House oficials being instructed not to speak publically about the mission?

1 posted on 04/28/2009 3:28:35 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Upstate NY Guy
We are in the very best of hands.

cough
2 posted on 04/28/2009 3:33:53 AM PDT by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: Upstate NY Guy
"The photo op was combined with a training exercise to save money, according.."

This is comlete BS. A training excercise does not involve a single F-16 buzzing a civilian area. These people are disgusting.

3 posted on 04/28/2009 3:35:16 AM PDT by wny
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To: Upstate NY Guy

AIR HEADS IN DC TERRORIZE CITY

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04282009/news/regionalnews/air_heads_in_dc_terrorize_city_166544.htm


4 posted on 04/28/2009 3:35:46 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Upstate NY Guy
It had a classified footnote that said, "Information in this document shall not be released to the public or the media."

Ah! More transparency! This is good.

5 posted on 04/28/2009 3:36:40 AM PDT by Zack Attack
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Here's more: at least one bank participating in TARP sent an email out to its NYC employees BEFORE the photo op, telling everyone exactly what would happen with the plane and assuring them there would be nothing to worry about. I emphasize that this email went out BEFORE the exercise, which is why employees were surprised later in the day when they learned how frightened many New Yorkers had been. Why was a TARP bank told about this, while Mayor Bloomberg was not?
6 posted on 04/28/2009 3:38:32 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: Upstate NY Guy

I hope, when election time comes, that some clever GOP media types find a way to use this video. Perhaps as an example of how “tone deaf” some libs are with respect to our national security. It’s a disgrace.

Two of my NY friends called tonight and their comments to me, would get me banned from here. And they are libs!


7 posted on 04/28/2009 3:39:25 AM PDT by Daisyjane69
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To: Zack Attack

“...The Government by the people, for the people....”

Oh, wait. That must have been some other, earlier incarnation of Government.

This one sucks.


8 posted on 04/28/2009 3:40:47 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: Upstate NY Guy

This whole administration is just one big group of idiots.

Their entire reason for being in the capitol is nothing but one big photo op.

One of the sad things is that the muslim (or former muslim) in this plane is a great threat to this nation too just like the terrorists that flew planes into our buildings.


9 posted on 04/28/2009 3:42:03 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Upstate NY Guy
There was no need for surprise," Sen. Charles Schumer said. "There was no need to scare thousands of New Yorkers who still have the vivid memory of 9/11."

In my humble opinion, their memories are not that vivid and needed a good shaking-up...

10 posted on 04/28/2009 3:42:21 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Upstate NY Guy
We Need A WAR ON STUPIDITY!!
11 posted on 04/28/2009 3:44:21 AM PDT by evad (YES!! I WANT Fub0's Agenda TO FAIL!!!)
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You can’t fix STUPID, but you can VOTE it out of office.


12 posted on 04/28/2009 3:45:15 AM PDT by anoldafvet (Proud Member of the Radical Rightwing Extremist Movement)
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To: boycott
One of the sad things is that the muslim (or former muslim) in this plane is a great threat to this nation too just like the terrorists that flew planes into our buildings.

In that respect, it's very apropos, doncha think?

13 posted on 04/28/2009 3:46:45 AM PDT by evad (YES!! I WANT Fub0's Agenda TO FAIL!!!)
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To: anoldafvet

Yes...then let the war begin.


14 posted on 04/28/2009 3:47:27 AM PDT by evad (YES!! I WANT Fub0's Agenda TO FAIL!!!)
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To: Upstate NY Guy
The photo op was combined with a training exercise to save money,...

To save money? HA! That does it for me. I'm now convinced this was no photo op.

15 posted on 04/28/2009 3:49:26 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: Zack Attack

Yes - this whole transparency thing is great. The world can see some pictures which will put the men and women fighting the enemy in danger, but America can’t see a document about a flight to take some pictures.

Something very strange going on....


16 posted on 04/28/2009 3:52:21 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Daisyjane69

Did they specifically blame zerO, the adminstration and the donk party, in general? Feel free to post w/expletives deleted.


17 posted on 04/28/2009 3:52:22 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Are we at high crimes or misdemeanors, yet?)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

“The photo op was combined with a training exercise to save money”

Oh, well that’s OK then. Barry and his fools are saving us money.


18 posted on 04/28/2009 3:52:54 AM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

We can only imagine the response of our enemies to the buffoonery of the current administration. This is the exclamation point at the end of the first hundred days. God help us.


19 posted on 04/28/2009 3:53:52 AM PDT by adc (Rush '12All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently oppos)
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To: kb2614; Upstate NY Guy; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; TADSLOS; Kimberly GG
We are in the very best of hands...........cough.

Don't we all feel s-o-o-o-o- safe (/snic)?

The director of the White House military office.... Louis Caldera......engineered this debacle.

GUESS WHO Louis E Caldera. Born: 1-Apr-1956. Birthplace: El Paso, TX. Race or Ethnicity: Hispanic

Idiot must have gotten his brains from the Third World.

20 posted on 04/28/2009 3:54:07 AM PDT by Liz (I was like Snow White, then I drifted. Mae West (on liberalism.)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Furthermore, the dang thing could have been photoshopped. It would have looked just as majestic, cost much less and would have not scared the @!#$%^&*()(*&^%$ out of everyone.

Dang Caligula. I’d say more but I’m a missionary.


21 posted on 04/28/2009 3:54:55 AM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ Caligula, just like his Kenyan ancestors, is selling his countrymen into slavery.)
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To: Upstate NY Guy
Nothing to see here just a normal "flee screaming" training exercise.

Remember when confronted with attack - cower, flee, or cry.

Never, ever fight back. Run in circles and wait for the government to tell you what to do.

"Scare" is the key word.

22 posted on 04/28/2009 3:55:18 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (F'ah K'Obama! That's Kenyan for 'Obama's a communist!)
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To: Upstate NY Guy
The muzzie living at 1600 Pennsylvania sure has an moslem sense of humor.

Pretty soon he'll be raping young boys.

23 posted on 04/28/2009 3:56:04 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: jennyjenny
"'To save money?' HA! That does it for me. I'm now convinced this was no photo op."

Exactly. My bullsh*t detector works pretty good. Right now it's on the red line.

24 posted on 04/28/2009 3:58:19 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Daisyjane69
I hope, when election time comes, that some clever GOP media types find a way to use this video.

There's a better chance of us all hitting the lottery.

And there are no "clever GOP media types", unfortunately.

25 posted on 04/28/2009 3:58:41 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Liz

Caldera is just the fall guy. This came directly from the illegal alien Kenyan/Indonesian in the WH.


26 posted on 04/28/2009 3:58:48 AM PDT by livius
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Oh, they were trying to save money!!

That makes it perfectly okay!!!

DAMN THEM!


27 posted on 04/28/2009 3:59:20 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: wny
A training excercise does not involve a single F-16 buzzing a civilian area.

Lets assume for a minute that it was, as they say, a "training mission". As a pilot of more than 30 years I ask, training for what?

Lets assume for a minute that it was, as they say, a "photo op". Why in the world would they do an unannounced photo op flight resulting in numerous buildings in NY and NJ to be evacuated when millions of pictures of the Statue of Liberty exist and millions of picture of Air Force One exist and any two of which could easily be photoshopped together to create the desired image?

This one stinks to high heaven.....

28 posted on 04/28/2009 3:59:39 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Government is not the solution to the problem. Government IS the problem - Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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On 27/4 Pres__ent Obama’s military successfully carried out a terrorist act in US Territory.
29 posted on 04/28/2009 4:00:17 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

They couldn’t do this at 0630 on a Sunday morning?


30 posted on 04/28/2009 4:00:40 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Upstate NY Guy

11. Why pull this stunt at 10 am on a Monday?


31 posted on 04/28/2009 4:02:06 AM PDT by Scarpetta (e pluribus victim)
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To: All
EXCERPT: 100 DAYS, 100 MISTAKES; OBAMA'S SHORT, ERROR-PRONE TIME IN OFFICE (comments by SARAH PALIN, GLENN BECK AND OTHERS)

1. "Obama criticized pork barrel spending in the form of 'earmarks,' urging changes in the way that Congress adopts the spending proposals. Then he signed a spending bill that contains nearly 9,000 of them, some that members of his own staff shoved in last year when they were still members of Congress. 'Let there be no doubt, this piece of legislation must mark an end to the old way of doing business, and the beginning of a new era of responsibility and accountability,' Obama said." -- McClatchy, 3/11

2. "There is no doubt that we've been living beyond our means and we're going to have to make some adjustments." -- Obama during the campaign.

3. This year's budget deficit: $1.5 trillion.

4. Asks his Cabinet to cut costs in their departments by $100 million -- a whopping .0027%!

5. "The White House says the president is unaware of the tea parties." -- ABC News, 4/15

6. "Mr. Obama is an accomplished orator but is becoming known in America as the 'teleprompt president' over his reliance on the machine when he gives a speech." -- Sky News, 3/18

7. In early February, the 2010 census was moved out of the Department of Commerce and into the White House, politicizing how federal aid is distributed and electoral districts are drawn.

8. Obama taps Nancy Killefer for a new administration job, First Chief Performance Officer -- to police government spending. But it surfaces that Killefer had performance issues of her own -- a tax lien was slapped on her DC home in 2005 for failure to pay unemployment compensation tax on household help. She withdrew.

9. Turkey tried to block the appointment of Anders Fogh Rasmussen as new NATO secretary general because he didn't properly punish the Danish cartoonist who caricatured Mohammed. France's Nicolas Sarkozy and Germany's Angela Merkel were outraged; Obama said he supported Turkey's induction into the European Union.

10. . . . and he never mentioned the Armenian genocide.

11. The picture of Obama and Hugo Chavez shaking hands.

12. Hugo Chavez gave him the anti-American screed "The Open Veins of Latin America." Obama didn't remark upon it. At least it wasn't DVDs.

READ REST HEREhttp://www.nypost.com/seven/04252009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/100_days__100_mistakes_166177.htm?page=0

32 posted on 04/28/2009 4:02:22 AM PDT by Liz (I was like Snow White, then I drifted. Mae West (on liberalism.)
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To: utahagen

Which bank?


33 posted on 04/28/2009 4:02:26 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Rome2000

34 posted on 04/28/2009 4:02:45 AM PDT by rabidralph
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Why did they need to do an actual photo at all? Anyone with any photoshop skills could have created the image they claim they wanted.

They are lying!

They must think Americans are idiots. But then since we elected Obama, they would be right.

35 posted on 04/28/2009 4:04:37 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Somebody stole my tagline)
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Bottom line, the people of NYC and New Jersey were terrorized. But this time, instead of commercial airliners, it was the very symbol of the Presidency.

It would be unthinkable that those involved would be blind to the effects and I can only imagine that approval must have come from the oval office.

For all intents and purposes, the President has conducted his own terrorist attack (albeit one without a crash) on the people of NY/NJ.

36 posted on 04/28/2009 4:05:06 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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Fox just had a clip on this story entitled “SCARE FORCE ONE. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?” lol!


37 posted on 04/28/2009 4:05:19 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (We're Not In Kansas Anymore, Toto!)
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To: livius
Caldera is just the fall guy. This came directly from the illegal alien Kenyan/Indonesian in the WH.

Mmmmmm.....maybe.

However, I do think O's got a freewheeling buncha lowlifes surrounding him who have enormous federal power.....who think they can do whatever they want whenever they want b/c O's so (cough) "popular."

38 posted on 04/28/2009 4:07:06 AM PDT by Liz (I was like Snow White, then I drifted. Mae West (on liberalism.)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Oh, I suppose we’ll get the answers to those pertinent questions right after the WH releases Skippy’s real birth certificate.


39 posted on 04/28/2009 4:07:07 AM PDT by Canedawg (Support and defend the Constitution, and fight back against the Idiocracy.)
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To: Upstate NY Guy
I want to know the complete manifest of passengers and crew on this flight.

I want to know if it was a true joy ride, which is what I think it was.

40 posted on 04/28/2009 4:08:14 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: anoldafvet

........You can’t fix STUPID.....

Of course you can. You change the rules and eliminate it from the current events


41 posted on 04/28/2009 4:08:59 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Crucify ! Crucify ! Crucify him!!)
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To: Upstate NY Guy
The photo op was combined with a training exercise to save money...

for the children.

42 posted on 04/28/2009 4:09:13 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Upstate NY Guy
Operating cost for Prezidenshul plane = $100,000.00
Two F-16 fighter jets = $37,600,000.00

Showing New Yorkers how thoughtful we are = Priceless

43 posted on 04/28/2009 4:09:22 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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i dont think its photo op. Why the secrecy of it? They could give a few days warning about it happening and made it public.

Me think White House want to scare ppl


44 posted on 04/28/2009 4:11:15 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Lying liars lying again and again and again and again and again... rinse and repeat.

LLS


45 posted on 04/28/2009 4:11:51 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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"It's Rahm, Mr President. He says keep laughing. We know nothing about the flyover."

" Some guy named Louis is gonna take the blame."

"Rahm had five doctors, an EMT crew, three paramedics and an
ambulance ready to go to NYC just in case the plane accidentally dropped
a bomb or something."

46 posted on 04/28/2009 4:12:44 AM PDT by Liz (I was like Snow White, then I drifted. Mae West (on liberalism.)
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To: boycott
Ain't no “former” to it... the boy bows to the king of the house of saud and mecca.

LLS

47 posted on 04/28/2009 4:13:43 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: Upstate NY Guy
...anyone wanna guess what the topic is going to be at the weekly Wednesday dinner party at the White Hut tomorrow night?......the success of Michelle becoming a fashion icon?
Obambi’s golf game?....Getting a new teleprompter set up?...
How fresh is the lobster and pizza at the gathering?
That's your list! now stick to it....any variation, discussion, or whispering about any other subject will be deemed a threat....and you will be banned and ostracized and attacked as Unamerican,a racist,a teabagger,red-necked,and any other term we deem necessary to quiet you
48 posted on 04/28/2009 4:15:34 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: livius

You left out muslim.

LLS


49 posted on 04/28/2009 4:15:51 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: wny

I expect the photographer was in the F-16. I’m not sure how functional the rear seat of an F-16 is when it comes to photography, but at least it could keep up with the 747. I also suspect the term ‘training mission’ is used to describe any flight that is not directly associated with transporting the TOTUS.

Of course after all is said and done the justification is being provided by an administration that has absolutely NO respect for reality or the truth.

I am appalled at the inability, and the unwillingness, of so many Americans to appreciate the difference in professionalism and abilities between the current pretender and his predecessor. Or any other who has ever held the office, excepting Carter and one or two of those guys years and years ago.


50 posted on 04/28/2009 4:16:39 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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