Skip to comments.Specter To Switch Parties: (fillibuster-proof majority with Franken)
Posted on 04/28/2009 9:29:46 AM PDT by Nachum
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Unfortunately, I think he stands a good chance of being re-elected as a Dem. Many “Republicans” switched parties to vote in the presidential primary (I remember upwards of 200,000) and then apparently voted for Obama in the general. The takeaway is that there are simply fewer Republicans in Pennsylvania than there used to be. He would have lost the primary to Toomey because it is closed, but I think he wins the general. JMHO.
If I were in Pennsylvania I would do what ever is needed to bee able to vote in the Democrat primay so I could make sure Specter does not even get the Democrat nomination. Seriously, we need to get such a movement going. This would be a good movement for Sean Hannity to start. If the dems can mess up our primaries and give is Mccain we can do the same to their primaries.
...this isn’t going to change anything. RINOs support all the major Democrat legislation (like amnesty) anyway.
A continuing place at the trough.
1) I suspect he knows this is the only way he gets out of the primary to the general election. 2) Further I suspect a retirement of a Supreme Court Justice is just days away.
I will say that the hard core right has cost us everything. You guys can say stuff like “he voted with the dems anyway” but that just shows how ignorant you are. There is no check on Obama now. Nothing at all. He does whatever he wants and America will never be the same.
And why? Because a the far right of the party decided that it wasn’t enough of a spanking to overwhelmingly lose an election. We need to shrink the party down to conservatives only and kill all the moderates.
That’s right, because what the people of Maine, PA, NJ, MI etc really want is far right conservatives.
Please. Until we realize that to be a majority party we need to a be a big tent that fields moderates and even quasi-liberals where those people play we will be meaningless in the national dialogue. You’ve chased Specter out of the party. Go ahead, chase Collins and Snowe out too.
I’m sure we’ll get those seats back when we nominate Tom Coburn types.
In the meanwhile the democrats will govern unchecked and re-shape this country until it doesn’t even matter who we nominate. Why is the far left smart enough to swallow moderates in conservative states but we’re too stupid to? We deserve Obama and the liberal damage he will do that will likely be permanent. Good for us.
Looks to me like a lot of the Republican “leadership” needs to loose their jobs.
Now he follow in the illustrious footsteps of that Jeffords idiot.
Why? Spector has never ever listened to Republican 'leadership', let him go to where his heart has always been. WE conservatives do NOT need a fraud.
Functionally this changes nothing. He was on their side every time we needed him to filibuster something anyway.
I think we’ll find this to be a productive loss.
Though . . .
It’s the bats in their belfry that are particularly garish.
With a 60 Democrat filibuster proof majority, it is almost like the patient has then been called back and told he has A.I.D.S. to boot. No biggie, country is being given a big wedgie either way. The backlash starts in 2010. Folks, 2010 is LESS THAN NINE MONTHS AWAY!!
At least we’ve gotten rid of one political whore. On to the others.
As did Bush and company some years back.... Oh and the good Samaritan , compassionate conservatism has come back to BITE US time and again.
Even RUSH was 'deceived' by the Spector scam and gave him free advertising time in the Bush era. NOBODOY seems immune from these scoundrels.
Until the leadership is replaced, there is very little chance that things will (or even can) change.
Thanks for the reminder. Grrrrrrrrr.
Any idea of whether Specter took any GOP money in the days leading up to this?
Like I said. Crap.
On the bright side....
...There is always full employment in communism!
Specter couldn’t very well leave a party of which he was never really a member. Eventually, enough of the moles will abandon ship and the party can proceed with the business of being a Republican party again.
Who’s next? Why wait, and instead just expel McCain - along with his kid - and the rest of his ilk, like Snowe, Collins, Graham, Lugar and the other undercover democrats. Now that the party of self-above-country has hit the magic 60, a bunch more won’t make any difference one way or the other.
Can’t return to good health until all of the cancer is excised.
That's it chief! We've got them riiiiight where we want them...
Disgusting. Almost seems this was part of their plan, just like using Murtha and Cindy Sheehan. Sad day for us, not just here in PA, where he’s been a Rino for so long, but now to switch sides for a filibuster proof majority with franken. Ugh.
I say ignorant voters/citizens like you have cost us everything. John McCain was as moderate as moderate can get and he still lost. He certainly promised to be far more moderate than the Chosen One, yet he was destroyed in the general election thanks to the “moderate vote”. Please go pimp your sorry excuse for analysis elsewhere.
I wonder what this does to his vote for card check. We’ve needed him for that vote and I’m sure he came under considerable pressure from unions for his announcement to vote against it.
It would not surprise if he would do it just to get even with those he blames. But then, not much surprises me now.
You are correct. I also believe the majority of Americans are no where near as progressive as the current majority leadership. They've been bamboozled by the MSM spinmasters.
Yup. This is Arlen's...
Magic "Bulls@#t" Theory
PG version probably even better:
Magic "Full-Of-It" Theory
Well, you’ll have your way. Pat Toomey, a hard-right conservative will run and lose the election. Then the guy we drove out of the party will sign off on Obama’s far left agenda.
Do you really think we are losing seats in the north east because our candidates are too liberal? Are you insane or just stupid?
Our party held majorities when it was a bigger tent that nominated people who fit their state. If you think that nominating the same type of Republican based on some crazy purity test in all 50 tests will result in anything but small minority status then you’re both insane and stupid.
In PA we’re going to have to settle for moderate to liberal dems. McCain didn’t lose because he was moderate he lost because Bush so destroyed the Republican brand it could not be saved.
A party full of fools who think the GOP problem in blue and purple states is a lack of conservative candidates deserves minority status. As a party we’re so stupid we deserve to watch the dems govern and dismantle this country.
Hell, we have Bush to thank for Specter being re-elected last time. Wonder how Dubya feels about all that campaigning for him now?
Oh, did I say that Spector is a coward? I'd say it to his face if I had the chance.
This is just another reason for term limits being established for anyone who serves in the senate the house of representatives.
Exactly why the likes of Steele and others of his ilk need to be booted. This is just another stain upon his leadership.
Specter will vote the way Specter votes regardless of party affiliation. If he is truly a “moderate” then he’ll vote no differently now that he is supposedly a Democrat.
Furthermore, if George Bush has so damaged the “Republican Brand”, how will Republicans who vote along with Obama agenda destroy the Republican Brand? Do you even really care?
The Dems are only “big-tent” to the extent of which they have bought off special interests across various ethnic groups. How do you propose to combat that? Buy them off more slowly? Simply slow the rate at which we pander and redistribute earned wealth?
Sorry. The days of me arguing with friends about politics only to hear them bring up a list of “moderate” Republicans who acted just like the Democrats I’m criticizing, are over.
You are very correct about one thing. This country is slowly being dismantled. People like Arlen Specter, your expedient “Republican”, are going to contribute. But ya know what? It’s not the Dems fault totally. They would have no power if the American People didn’t bestow it upon them. The American people are enamoured with the idea of socialism and they are going to eventually get their wish.
He quit before we could fire him. Oh well now he is really in a jam. If he votes with repubs he will piss off dems and if he votes with dems he pisses off the repubs. Nice going Arlen and now for a chorus of thank God and Greyhound he’s gone....
What I find odd is that there was no other front runner for the Democrats and if there was who was it? I had guessed Rendell would go for a senate seat.
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Apparently a lot of people here don’t understand how the Senate or politics work. How specter votes is not the issue. Do you understand how procedure and committees work in the Senate?
When we lost the majority we lost all the majorities on the committees. Our party decided who served where. So if we had a party of 30 conservatives 15 moderates and 6 liberals we would have a majority on every single committee. Also we would control the debate, what bills come up etc.
Even if we at least had the 39 and 4-5 liberals we could muster up filibusters. Procedural votes are extremely important. We had sway with the liberal/moderate democrats. Anyway, there’s no point explaining this to many of you guys. You want all or nothing. You’re gonna get nothing.