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Minimal Efforts Made To Detect Flu
Fort Worth Star Telegram ^ | April 27,2009 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/28/2009 10:02:08 AM PDT by penelopesire

EL PASO — U.S. airport officials and border agents waved people through Monday with little or no additional screening for Mexico’s deadly swine flu — a far more muted reaction than the extreme caution elsewhere around the world

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; bho44; democrats; dhs; flu; homelandsecurity; immigrantlist; immigration; influenza; mexicanflu; mexico; mexiflu; obama; swineflu
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"Everyone’s afraid. But when we got here, they said 'Welcome to America. You don’t need that,’" said Alejandro Meneses of Fairlawn, N.J., pointing to a paper mask hanging from his neck."

Oh joy....(eye roll)

1 posted on 04/28/2009 10:02:08 AM PDT by penelopesire
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To: penelopesire

I have a friend whose daughter has a 103 fever, and she hasn’t taken her to the doctor. We live in San Jose, and the daughter goes to a school filled with illegal immigrants.


2 posted on 04/28/2009 10:04:48 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: penelopesire

If this gets even a little out of hand it may become the f-ing “messiahs”, Katrina.

NO need to close the borders or check for ill travelers.
So what if a few folks get sick?


3 posted on 04/28/2009 10:04:52 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (yEP,i)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping


4 posted on 04/28/2009 10:05:07 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: luckystarmom

Why won’t she call the doctor? That’s crazy! We have our first report in our city today. Very scary.


5 posted on 04/28/2009 10:06:48 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

She called the doctor and the doctor told her to come in if the fever last for 3 days. I told her to call the doctor and get a swine flu tests and try to get tamiflu.


6 posted on 04/28/2009 10:07:56 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Joe Boucher

It’s insanity! We have our first report in our city this morning. A Mexican middle school girl with no recent travel to Mexico(or so they say). Not even closing the school!!


7 posted on 04/28/2009 10:09:11 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: luckystarmom

She needs to find another Doctor ASAP! Tell her to call the emergency room and ask a nurse what to do.


8 posted on 04/28/2009 10:10:19 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire
Why won’t she call the doctor? That’s crazy! We have our first report in our city today. Very scary.

Where are you?
9 posted on 04/28/2009 10:10:33 AM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: bdeaner

In Texas.


10 posted on 04/28/2009 10:11:48 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire
In Texas.

Thanks. What city are you in?
11 posted on 04/28/2009 10:12:28 AM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: luckystarmom

I would certainly recommend getting a tamiflu prescription ASAP, at the very least.


12 posted on 04/28/2009 10:12:29 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: penelopesire

3000 illegal aliens cross over just at the Tuscon sector every day.
Why bother at the check points for legal entrants?


13 posted on 04/28/2009 10:15:28 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: AuntB

I hear you, but to know that they are doing nothing at all to mitigate this disaster is infuriating!


14 posted on 04/28/2009 10:16:42 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

Yes, Ma’am.


15 posted on 04/28/2009 10:18:12 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Joe Boucher

Only Republicans get blamed for natural disasters, or even man-made ones. The administration is probably trying to determine whether stopping the pandemic or letting it run through the country is more politically advantageous for its agenda. Mustn’t let a crisis be wasted. Makes a great talking point for nationalized healthcare.


16 posted on 04/28/2009 10:19:02 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: luckystarmom

A there is no clinical swine flu test. It has to be sent to the CDC and the results aren’t available for days, so it’s no help for the individual patient. They can check for generic influenza, but the screening test is only about 80% accurate, and there is a LOT more seasonal flu out there then swine flu.

B there are a lot of nasty side effects to tamiflu and it’s not a cure, only MAY help limit symptoms.

C. Hopefully the mother will behave in a rational manner and give her kid tylenol and or motrin and see how the kid does.

D. If everyone with a fever starts to run to the Emergency Room, they better bring a sleeping bag and a backpack full of food because it’s going to be a looooonnnnnggggg wait to be seen.


17 posted on 04/28/2009 10:21:10 AM PDT by Kozak (e)
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To: penelopesire
Obama wants universal infection to justify universal health care as a response?

Why let a good crisis go to waste?

-PJ

18 posted on 04/28/2009 10:21:59 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
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To: penelopesire

I hear you, but to know that they are doing nothing at all to mitigate this disaster is infuriating!

Kinda makes you think . . . what’s the reality of this situation. I don’t trust ANYTHING coming from this obozo administration.


19 posted on 04/28/2009 10:28:54 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: penelopesire
Hey Babe the left wing is in there is NO border except for those of us who are citizens and are not democrats.
20 posted on 04/28/2009 10:31:03 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (I will always be a Soldier)
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To: Political Junkie Too

“Why let a good crisis go to waste?”

No doubt about it that Obama will try to use this crisis.

We should remind folks loud and often that Mexico is where folks are dying and they have GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE! I saw a pic today somewhere of armed guards preventing folks from entering hospitals in Mexico City and lines of people begging for help.


21 posted on 04/28/2009 10:31:35 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

Not only the open-borders fascists are responsible....but also include the NAFTA Nabobs....NAFTA provisions make it hard for the US to seal the border for any length of time.

While the rest of the world bans imports and travelers from the USA and Mexico...we have an Open Borders/Free Trade cabal that will do anything to preserve their treasonous activities....which could make many Americans sick


22 posted on 04/28/2009 10:32:20 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: luckystarmom
I have a friend whose daughter has a 103 fever, and she hasn’t taken her to the doctor.

That's crazy! 103 fever is a medical emergency, swine flu or not! Talk some sense to your friend.

23 posted on 04/28/2009 10:32:24 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: luckystarmom

She needs to find another Dr. as soon as possible.


24 posted on 04/28/2009 10:32:38 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (I will always be a Soldier)
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To: AuntB

love your tagline btw...lol!


25 posted on 04/28/2009 10:33:04 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Joe Boucher

Yeah, but he will just use it as an excuse to expand government. That might be why the response is so muted.

When did this flu start versus when Obama’s entourage was in Mexico?


26 posted on 04/28/2009 10:34:07 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: pgkdan

A temp of 103 is NOT a medical emergency.
It warrants some tylenol and a call to the pediatrician.


27 posted on 04/28/2009 10:34:45 AM PDT by Kozak (e)
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To: Bluebird Singing

Me either. We all knew that Obama would be a disaster..but how many of us thought he would bring this country to the brink of destruction in a mere 100 days?

It seems like he has been president for years already.


28 posted on 04/28/2009 10:35:08 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

Even if they were told to do something I can see why they might hold back.

They might get prosecuted, sued or jailed by their own government for doing the right thing.

Look at Ramos & Compean, the “war crimes” farce and our CIA.

I knew that poser was going to be a major threat to our national security.

He is turning out to be the leader of the 5th column.


29 posted on 04/28/2009 10:35:47 AM PDT by Califreak (Obama is Swahili for "Death to America")
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To: Cicero; luckystarmom

I agree with Cicero. If this flu is the swine flu and has a mortality of 6%, you want to give that kid every advantage. Find a doc that will get her tamiflu.


30 posted on 04/28/2009 10:36:33 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: penelopesire

I was in the waiting room of a clinic yesterday, when one of the ladies working the desk passed a paper to another, and saying if anyone comes in coughing that are from any of these states (pointing at the paper), the doctor needs to know right away.


31 posted on 04/28/2009 10:39:17 AM PDT by NavyCanDo (Party like its 1773)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

I should really educate myself on Nafta. I don’t know enough about it to argue one way or another with any authority. I am a free enterprise person, so my instincts would be in favor of it...but perhaps there are many provisions in the agreement that need to be sticken.


32 posted on 04/28/2009 10:39:30 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Califreak

Good point..but: ‘Welcome to America..you don’t need a mask here’..goes a bit overboard imho...lol

Obama is not being called to the carpet for anything!! That is what scares me most. There is absolutely no checks or balances on the tyrant.


33 posted on 04/28/2009 10:42:29 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: NavyCanDo

Many doctors offices are isolating people and giving them masks if they show up with fever or coughs. I am not in a panic yet since the virus seems to respond to treatment but I don’t trust Obama to get the meds out to Americans that need it.

Bush stockpiled millions of doses of the stuff for AMERICAN CITIZENS and I hear now they are sending some of it to Mexico.

I am all for humanitarian assistance within reason..but what happens if we need that medicine in the coming weeks? Then what?


34 posted on 04/28/2009 10:47:39 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: DannyTN

The girls fever is 99 this morning, so mom is not taking her to the doctor’s office.


35 posted on 04/28/2009 10:56:25 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: penelopesire

I am all for humanitarian assistance within reason..but what happens if we need that medicine in the coming weeks? Then what?


don´t worry /s referring to the pharmaceutical industry
http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nachrichten-2009-04/13735474-brief-roche-working-on-scaling-up-tamiflu-production-020.htm
it only takes 8 month to produce something like Tamiflu.
So after you have given all away you will get help in 8 month for your own people.


36 posted on 04/28/2009 10:59:08 AM PDT by Jonny foreigner
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To: penelopesire

1) Either this is a serious menace to public health, in which case you keep people from areas with high infection levels out as best you can AND quarantine known or suspected cases of infection, or

2) It is a big nothing (comparable to run-of-the-mill flu) that has been used to panic the public for some unstated purpose.

Item 1 means sheer stupidity and incompetence, and Item 2 means Evil - that everyone infected is meaningless, is expendable, for some unknown goal that is too “important” for us mere proles to know about.

I don’t know which of the 2 is the case, but what I really cannot understand is why Janet Napolitano is in charge. Is she a doctor? Does her department have a big staff with lots of experience in infectious diseases? I say that the answer to both is “no,” meaning that this moron should be nowhere near in charge UNLESS we were going to close the border (which, of course, we can’t, as it isn’t PC to do that - and I’ve long said that this PC crap is going to get people killed). Why have a security agency in charge of disease? WTF, over??


37 posted on 04/28/2009 10:59:15 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: MeekOneGOP; HiJinx

Ping


38 posted on 04/28/2009 11:04:09 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: luckystarmom
99 isn't a fever.......

That being said, maybe someone needs some peace of mind. And I understand that...

Actually Dr.Fahrenheit himself...never meant for 98.6 to be the "GOLD STANDARD"....as human temps change over the course of a day.

Rule of thumb...it's not a fever unless it's over 100 degrees fahrenheit.

fwiw-

39 posted on 04/28/2009 11:04:59 AM PDT by Osage Orange (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. - Will Rodgers)
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To: penelopesire

If it doesn’t involve somehow sticking it to Caucasian, heterosexual males, preferably Christians, then Janet isn’t too concerned.


40 posted on 04/28/2009 11:05:05 AM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: luckystarmom
I have a friend whose daughter has a 103 fever, and she hasn’t taken her to the doctor. We live in San Jose, and the daughter goes to a school filled with illegal immigrants.

Please tell your friend to take her daughter in. My littlest one has a respiratory bug - not the flu. There are a lot of not-the-flu-but-still-serious things going around right now.

Prayers for the little ones.

41 posted on 04/28/2009 11:10:18 AM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Collect the whole set!)
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To: Kozak

“Hopefully the mother will behave in a rational manner...

Many on this thread are not behaving in a rational manner.


42 posted on 04/28/2009 11:12:00 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: Osage Orange

Should have said temperature was 99 degrees. Last night, it was 103, and that is definitely a fever.


43 posted on 04/28/2009 11:13:08 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

3 days! tamiflu only works best in first 2 days

needs a new doctor!


44 posted on 04/28/2009 11:20:10 AM PDT by silverleaf (We live in interesting times: now the entire IRS works for a tax evader)
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To: verity

No one has given us any guidelines for what to do when you or a loved one gets sick.

I called my allergist and talked to them. They told me that the CDC is recommending that people with a fever and other flu like symptoms go to their primary care physician and get tested for swine flu. The allergist also said that the CDC is recommending tamiflu for treatment of suspected cases. The primary care physician is the person to give out the tamiflu.


45 posted on 04/28/2009 11:21:28 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

I wouldn’t either if it’s down that much. But I’d continue watching her.

The drugs aren’t without some risk, at the start of the flu, without knowing whether it’s the swine flu or not, I think the drugs are the way to go.


46 posted on 04/28/2009 11:23:46 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: penelopesire; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...

Ping!


47 posted on 04/28/2009 12:44:32 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: DannyTN

I had heard that the head of Mexico’s national museum had shaken hands with obamma lamma one day last week and dropped dead of the virus the next day.
I was oh so hopeful.


48 posted on 04/28/2009 12:56:07 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (yEP,i)
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To: penelopesire

Wha’???? They didn’t make them wash their hands?


49 posted on 04/28/2009 1:01:40 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should. Samuel Adams)
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To: penelopesire

and as we’ve heard, “isolation won’t work so don’t even try”

a textbook intentional disease-spreading wouldn’t look much different to this


50 posted on 04/28/2009 1:02:42 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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