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GM Bondholders Reject Debt-Swapping Offer
WILX (MI) ^ | 04/28/09 | Various

Posted on 04/28/2009 10:48:31 AM PDT by Kieri

A committee representing General Motors Corp. bondholders is rejecting the company's debt exchange offer, saying it pushes the automaker closer to a bankruptcy filing. The committee, representing large, institutional bondholders such as Fidelity and John Hancock, said in a statement Monday that GM's offer is inadequate and shows favoritism to the United Auto Workers union. The UAW would receive about a 39 percent stake in GM if it agrees to take $10 billion in health care trust payments in stock. Bondholders will get a 10 percent stake in GM if 90 percent of its $27 billion in unsecured debt is swapped for stock. The group was working with GM to reach an agreement before the company made a formal offer, but the two sides have not negotiated since March.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; gm; michigan; uaw
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To: Kieri

Good on the bond holders. Zero’s sweetheart deal for the unions goes down in flames.


21 posted on 04/28/2009 11:00:55 AM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Yes, there is a downside!

See:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2239054/posts

Government, UAW To Own 89% Of GM In Restructuring


22 posted on 04/28/2009 11:01:09 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Or the US version of 1930s Volkswagen.


23 posted on 04/28/2009 11:01:10 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: pierrem15
Looks like some of them grew a backbone, and realized they would get a fairer break from a bankruptcy judge than the kleptocrats in the Obama admin and their UAW pals.

QFT.

24 posted on 04/28/2009 11:02:14 AM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: TheWasteLand

Because their messiah Zero says so.


25 posted on 04/28/2009 11:02:16 AM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: Kieri

Obama is ALREADY paying off the Unions!!!


26 posted on 04/28/2009 11:02:45 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: Kieri

This wasn’t an offer, it was an Attempted robbery !!


27 posted on 04/28/2009 11:02:53 AM PDT by 4Speed
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
"There must be a downside.

It's a negotiation. Obama's $.10 on the dollar first offer was just to let the bondholders know who's the boss. I'm guessing that they'll settle for somewhere around $.20-.25 on the dollar and the union will still have controlling interest.

No way does this go to a traditional bankruptcy hearing. Obama owes the UAW far too much to let that happen.

28 posted on 04/28/2009 11:03:17 AM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: Oldexpat

Generally, bond holders go to the front of the line. A Bond is a form of contract, between the company and the bond buyer. Suppliers come next. Employees and stockholders figth for what is left.

You surely don’t expect the UAW, which because of their unsustainable contracts, caused the problems, to take over the company.

Who will buy their Volgas? Speak up.


29 posted on 04/28/2009 11:03:21 AM PDT by Tarpon (You abolish your responsibilities, your surrender your rights.)
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To: Petronski

No, it is not “legal”!

But:

“Welcome to New Kenya, where the law of the jungle has replaced the Law of the Land”


30 posted on 04/28/2009 11:03:54 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Kieri

What’s good for GM is good for America...................


31 posted on 04/28/2009 11:06:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (If Keynesian economics worked, Zimbabwe would be a superpower.......................)
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To: Tarpon

Couldn’t the bondholders force GM into bankrupcy rather than being defrauded like this?


32 posted on 04/28/2009 11:07:37 AM PDT by Ford4000
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To: Big_Monkey
These are astute bond holders.

They are anticipating a collapse of General Motors and have rightly figured that they could get far more than 10 cents on the dollar even if they just sell off the company's real estate holdings.

33 posted on 04/28/2009 11:07:52 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Ford4000

Probably, that is likely why they said no ...

GM owns an awful lot of salable plant and equipment. Bond holders and the suppliers get first dibs on it. Not the UAW.

My suspicion is Bambi will make them whole.


34 posted on 04/28/2009 11:10:19 AM PDT by Tarpon (You abolish your responsibilities, your surrender your rights.)
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To: Big_Monkey
Obama owes the UAW far too much to let that happen.

Bond holders don't have to agree, but maybe Rahm Immaneul will take Luca Brazzi and make them an offer they can't refuse. "In five minutes, either your brains or your signature will be on that contract."

Ya shudda come to me first, I cudda helped you

35 posted on 04/28/2009 11:10:43 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The age of 0bama: the transient ischemic delusions of adequacy decade.)
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To: Melchior

If the government owns a $15 billion stake and the bond holders $27 billion, how do they figure the government is the majority stake holder? Why do the unions get 39% of the company and the bondholders 10%?


36 posted on 04/28/2009 11:11:20 AM PDT by anoldafvet (Proud Member of the Radical Rightwing Extremist Movement)
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To: Alberta's Child

If that deal went through, the union would run the company. That would last about two years at best before they would completely collapse.

I’ve been trying to get a test drive of the Camaro. Been told twice over the past three weeks the car would be in within a day or two. Both dates went by, not in. That is how the company is running now. As far as perhaps getting a super sport, well, no idea when that would ever happen.

I decided to buy a Genesis...told the car would be here within a week.

Vince


37 posted on 04/28/2009 11:14:09 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: MHGinTN

Obama is just keeping a campaign promise to ‘give the wealth to those who created it.” (workers)
The Barbarians are inside the gates.

What does a ‘worker owned society’ look like? I guess we’ll find out.

Never gonna by a GM product again.


38 posted on 04/28/2009 11:14:52 AM PDT by griswold3 (a good story is more compelling than the search for truth)
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To: MHGinTN

Obama is just keeping a campaign promise to ‘give the wealth to those who created it.” (workers)
The Barbarians are inside the gates.

What does a ‘worker owned society’ look like? I guess we’ll find out.

Never gonna by a GM product again.


39 posted on 04/28/2009 11:14:54 AM PDT by griswold3 (a good story is more compelling than the search for truth)
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To: Tarpon

Actually in a bankruptcy proceeding...wages and then pensions are first in line. The bondholders will deal...just like Chrysler’s have at the 11th hour.


40 posted on 04/28/2009 11:15:04 AM PDT by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy Amrican or bye bye America)
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