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More Delays. USA/Obama Say They Need 124-Days to Answer; Congress 117 Days (re: Kerchner v Obama)
Puzzo1 ^ | 4/28/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 04/28/2009 12:02:24 PM PDT by rxsid

Tuesday, April 28, 2009
More Delays. USA/Obama Say They Need 124-Days to Answer; Congress 117 Days

See the copy of the court documents electronically filed by the defendants on Monday, April 27, 2009:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/14705757/

The lawyer for USA and Obama, Elizabeth A. Pascal, who works in the office of Ralph J. Marra, Acting United States Attorney, is now asking the Court a second time through her motion for more time to answer for the defendants.

Initially, Ms. Pascal only represented the USA and Obama, whose answers or motions were initially due on April 27, 2009. Ms. Pascal requested and obtained an extension to file her responses to May 5, 2009.

Now Ms. Pascal states in her declaration that former Vice President Cheney, the House of Representatives, and Speaker Pelosi have asked that the Department of Justice represent them in the action. She adds that the Justice Department is also deciding which Congressional defendants (meaning Congress, Senate, House, Cheney, and Pelosi) it will represent. Pending the Justice Department making that decision, she is moving the Court for an order allowing all the Congressional defendants more time to answer or otherwise move. She includes in her request additional time for the USA and Obama to answer, whose answers are now due on May 5, 2009.

Ms. Pascal made her motion returnable June 1, 2009 and is asking for an order that she be allowed to file an answer or otherwise move within 20 days of the date of the order to be entered by Magistrate Judge Joel Schneider. This means that if Magistrate Judge Schneider signs the extension order on June 1, 2009, the defendants' answers or motions will be due by June 21, 2009.

Whether or not the President of the United States is eligible for the Office he currently occupies is of utmost national importance. Every passing day Mr. Obama takes executive action that significantly impacts on the lives of Americans. The USA and Obama have already been granted one extension to answer to May 5, 2009. They have therefore been given 77 days to answer. This is enough time for them to answer. With an extension to June 21, 2009, USA and Obama are asking for 124 days and the Congressional defendants are asking for 117 days to answer. Court rules only allow them 60 days. Such delay is not in the national interest and not acceptable. As to the Congressional defendants, a twenty-day extension for them to answer is reasonable, making their answer due by May 18, 2009. Given the national importance of the issues, an extension for all defendants to answer by June 21, 2009 is not acceptable.

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/04/more-delays-usaobama-say-they-need-124.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthers; congress; kerchner; obama; puzzo; truthers

1 posted on 04/28/2009 12:02:24 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: rxsid

And yet they have no problem with jumping on our necks and shoving socialism down our throats within days of taking power.


2 posted on 04/28/2009 12:05:04 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: rxsid

So..... what? Is there a judge who’s going to call them on it?

I mean, show evidence in 60 days or vacate the White House?

Hmmm.... probably not.


3 posted on 04/28/2009 12:05:44 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: hoosiermama; Red Steel; null and void; LucyT; BP2; Amityschild; Calpernia; ~Kim4VRWC's~; ...

Ping (Kerchner v Obama)


4 posted on 04/28/2009 12:11:01 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: rxsid

Why is Cheney involved?


5 posted on 04/28/2009 12:11:38 PM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: rxsid
It takes 124 days to get a Vault Birth Certificate from the State of Hawaii?
6 posted on 04/28/2009 12:11:42 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: rxsid; LucyT

Delay tactics...nothing to hide here I’m sure....


7 posted on 04/28/2009 12:12:05 PM PDT by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: kidd

Don’t mess with Cheney. No wonder the rats are after him.


8 posted on 04/28/2009 12:12:48 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: kidd

Because he was presiding over the E.C. vote “certification”, and he didn’t call for any objections.


9 posted on 04/28/2009 12:14:30 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: rxsid

Just curious- when Obama took his current job, didn’t he have to fill out some government forms like we all do?

What GS grade is president?

Aren’t you required to present tow valid ID’s? Birth certificate, social security card?


10 posted on 04/28/2009 12:18:28 PM PDT by Mr. K (physically unable to proofreed (<---oops))
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To: Mr. K

Nope. Which is why the question(s) remains. A lot of assumptions where made.


11 posted on 04/28/2009 12:20:30 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: rxsid

Interesting.

So procedure wasn’t followed. Has Cheney left a back door open? (or did he just screw up?)


12 posted on 04/28/2009 12:27:27 PM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: kidd

If you watch the event, Pelosi stepped all over his presiding by immediately starting an uproarious cheer before Cheney could say anything at the moment when he was supposed to ask if there were objection.


13 posted on 04/28/2009 12:38:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Mr. K

Yes, yes, and yes, which is why the Birther movement has been written off by the likes of Limbaugh and Malkin and Coulter and the like. There has never been a thing to this other than hysteric innuendo, and it shames conservatism to be even tangentially connected to this stuff.


14 posted on 04/28/2009 12:39:59 PM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: rxsid
Actually, not to argue with you, he has to fill out an I-9 Employment Eligibility Verification form. This form is required by all employers in the United States and is a declaration of eligibility for employment in the United States. You declare your identity, nationality and citizenship.

On that form he has to present two forms of “Approved” ID.

15 posted on 04/28/2009 12:40:36 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: kidd
Good question.

Perhaps the answer lies in the fact that he has asked the DOJ to represent him regarding this lawsuit. Maybe that's "protocol" as then...he was VP and the DOJ would probably normally represent him in that capacity. Now that he's a "private" citizen....not sure.

16 posted on 04/28/2009 12:41:00 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: kidd

That was my thought. Why is Cheney involved?


17 posted on 04/28/2009 12:41:38 PM PDT by ronnyquest ("That's what governments are for, to get in a man's way.")
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To: F15Eagle
"It takes 124 days to get a Vault Birth Certificate from the State of Hawaii?"

It might take that long to make a highly passable forgery.

18 posted on 04/28/2009 12:43:08 PM PDT by ronnyquest ("That's what governments are for, to get in a man's way.")
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To: F15Eagle

No kidding huh!


19 posted on 04/28/2009 12:58:03 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: mquinn

He was born with, and continues to have British citizenship. No hysteria there.


20 posted on 04/28/2009 12:59:51 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: mquinn

Yeah, that explains why Obama hires lawyers to hide his Vault Birth Certificate.

There’s something there he doesn’t want us to see.

But then, you already knew that.


21 posted on 04/28/2009 1:02:44 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: rxsid

It is said his British citizenship expired in 1982 when he was 21. I don’t think the dual citizenship is a problem though.

The question is: What is on that Vault Birth Certificate that is so controversial that lawyers must be engaged to fight lawsuits demanding its release?


22 posted on 04/28/2009 1:04:37 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: mquinn
There has never been a thing to this other than hysteric innuendo, and it shames conservatism to be even tangentially connected to this stuff.

If you don't care to defend the Constitution, don't make fun of those that do.

You're more like a 'spectator' than a citizen.

23 posted on 04/28/2009 1:24:05 PM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: rxsid

Bump!


24 posted on 04/28/2009 1:26:00 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: rxsid

And no Congress Critter spoke up exept the guy from Ohio who raised his hand possibly in objection to Obama.


25 posted on 04/28/2009 1:27:45 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: F15Eagle
"It is said his British citizenship expired in 1982 when he was 21. I don’t think the dual citizenship is a problem though.

The question is: What is on that Vault Birth Certificate that is so controversial that lawyers must be engaged to fight lawsuits demanding its release"

Your referring to his Kenyan citizenship. That's what his campaign and the falsecheck web site noted (that he, allegedly, lost his Kenyan citizenship at age 21).

However, as Mario points out...there is no record of Barry renouncing his British citizenship. Furthermore, the British Nationality Acts didn't "remove" his British citizenship, neither did the Kenyan Constitution.

A good explanation from Mario, on why Barry is still a British citizen, can be found here:

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-president-of-us-is-currently-also_07.html

26 posted on 04/28/2009 2:15:28 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: F15Eagle

However, your right about the fact that Barry continues to fight the release of a copy of his long form vault b.c., as well as his college records (among others as well). It’s becoming clearer, that he is clearly not (and never has been...going back to At Birth) a “Natural Born Citizen.” Ironically, what he is hiding in his college records and original long form b.c. may determine weather or not he is even here legally. If he were truly born in Kenya, his mother was too young to convey citizenship (read citizenship and not NBC) to him. If he were truly born in HI, he would be a ‘citizen’ with dual U.S. and British citizenship. Not NBC.


27 posted on 04/28/2009 2:30:15 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: F15Eagle

The question I have is why he doesn’t show us the one he found among his mother’s belongings?


28 posted on 04/28/2009 3:00:12 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: Vendome

As somebody noted, it was something that startled him (per his book). Maybe it was the BHO father (I couldn’t read more than one or two pages of his book and upon happenstance saw what his religious upbringing was).

He found that when he was like 9 or something, so it’s possible that it’s not around anymore. However, he COULD get one from Hawaii, BUT he’s got something to hide. Without seeing it, there’s no way to know exactly what it is.

But it’s something he’s afraid of.

Then again, it’s also possible he picked up that document during his last trip to Hawaii, just before the election.


Here’s a little something I put together


Well, it’s not like ***the only person in the Western World*** who knew **anything** about Obama’s actual birth conveniently died about 24-30 hours before the election.

Oh, wait - she did ....

Tuesday October 28, 2008 - BHO announces must visit sick granny and must suspend campaign immediately

Thursday, October 30, 2008 - Even though he has a long-range 757 fully capable of flying to Hawaii from anywhere in the CONUS, BHO finally shows up to visit granny after waiting 2 days

Friday, October 31, 2008 - Republican governor of Hawaii announces she’s seen the vault birth certificate of BHO, that he is an Hawaiian citizen, and it **sealing** the vault birth certificate

Sunday, November 2, 2008 - Granny dies in Hawaii (I thought it was late Sunday night - somebody correct me on the actual time to make this as accurate as possible)

Tuesday, November 4, 2008 - BHO wins U.S. election


29 posted on 04/28/2009 4:30:03 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: rxsid

ping to above for your reference


30 posted on 04/28/2009 4:31:14 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle
It takes 124 days to get a Vault Birth Certificate from the State of Hawaii?

They need the time to let the forged long-form age under the UV lamps.

31 posted on 04/28/2009 9:17:51 PM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever)
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To: Polarik

Yep. They stall, delay, ridicule, hinder, obstruct, deny, fake, twist, bend, dodge, escape, slither ....

All of which could be solved by a $12.50 Long Form Vault Birth Certificate from the State of Hawaii.

But they don’t ... for some reason ...

Something to hide, that’s for certain ...


32 posted on 04/28/2009 9:51:18 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: rxsid

He does not continue to have British citizenship. Please don’t resort to lying to support an already tenuous conspiracy.


33 posted on 04/29/2009 5:33:29 AM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: mquinn
Please provide evidence to back up your claim that he somehow, somewhere, lost his British citizenship.

Thanks.

34 posted on 04/29/2009 9:49:27 AM PDT by rxsid
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To: rxsid

The burden of proof is on you, Birther-boy.


35 posted on 04/30/2009 9:29:17 AM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: mquinn

LOL. Nice one Uslurpler-boy. It’s fun being juvenile again...isn’t it?

Found that evidence yet of where he renounced his British Citizenship he’s had since birth?


36 posted on 05/11/2009 5:01:51 PM PDT by rxsid
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