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Obama Orders Review of Plane Photo-Op
Wall St Journal ^
| 4/28/2009
| CHRISTOPHER CONKEY and PETER SPIEGEL
Posted on 04/28/2009 12:29:03 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
President Barack Obama Tuesday ordered a review of the decision to fly the backup Air Force One plane around the Manhattan skyline for a publicity photo, a move that sowed panic in New York and northern New Jersey Monday morning.
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina will conduct the review, according to Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs. Mr. Gibbs said Mr. Obama was "furious" when he heard about the photo stunt that had brought painful memories of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to mind for many New York-area residents.
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A government official on Monday said the White House Military Office cancelled similar plans to fly the backup Air Force One around Washington for other publicity shots. The White House declined to make Louis Caldera, the director of the White House Military Office who took responsibility for the decision to conduct the New York flyover, available for an interview.
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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoairforceone; dudewheresmyplane
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
The White House declined to make Louis Caldera, the director of the White House Military Office who took responsibility for the decision to conduct the New York flyover, available for an interview.
How transparent of Obama!
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Can we get back to where the adults are in charge?
3
posted on
04/28/2009 12:31:49 PM PDT
by
SERKIT
("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
This is something like OJ leading the hunt for the ‘real’ killer of Ron and Nicole.
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posted on
04/28/2009 12:31:49 PM PDT
by
CASchack
To: SonOfDarkSkies
I'm sure his holiness sees this as an opportunity to end 1 or more Military Officer's career - well worth his personal attention. < / sarcasm >
Regards,
TS
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posted on
04/28/2009 12:31:52 PM PDT
by
The Shrew
(www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
man some people need to grow a sack. I wonder how many of these people will claim ptsd because they were afraid that was another turist attack
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posted on
04/28/2009 12:32:08 PM PDT
by
09Patriot
(I am a MILITANT Conservative, compassionate conservatism got us NOWHERE)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
“Furious” that he got egg on his face!
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posted on
04/28/2009 12:32:23 PM PDT
by
Redleg Duke
("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Can you throw a 747 pilot under the bus?
8
posted on
04/28/2009 12:32:55 PM PDT
by
dblshot
To: SonOfDarkSkies
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina They couldn't get Kenny Loggins?
The ENTIRE purpose of this "investigation" will be to make absolutely certain that all traces of Obama's involvement are eradicated.
9
posted on
04/28/2009 12:32:58 PM PDT
by
JennysCool
(Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything. -- Wyatt Earp)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Will this be like the review of Obama's dealings with Blagojevich?
-PJ
10
posted on
04/28/2009 12:33:03 PM PDT
by
Political Junkie Too
(This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Oh, he must have found someone he can throw under da bus already.
11
posted on
04/28/2009 12:33:39 PM PDT
by
McGruff
(I guess it all depends upon what the meaning of "bow" is.)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
“Pres_ent Barack Obama Tuesday ordered a review of HIS decision to fly the backup Air Force One plane around the Manhattan..”
Corrected!
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posted on
04/28/2009 12:34:20 PM PDT
by
Darksheare
(Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
To: CASchack
This is something like OJ leading the hunt for the real killer of Ron and Nicole. He looked for years on golf courses and didn't find anything.
Now he is looking in the lockup. Whoever it was may have been arrested for something else.
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Let’s find out WHO was in that plane. Then we’ll have our answer. Did his wife and kids go for a joy ride?
To: CASchack
This is something like OJ leading the hunt for the real killer of Ron and Nicole. LOL !
So true.
ML/NJ
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posted on
04/28/2009 12:35:21 PM PDT
by
ml/nj
To: 09Patriot
I wonder how many of these people will claim ptsd because they were afraid that was another turist attackHeheh...those tourist attacks are awful. Particularly in big cities.
To: 09Patriot
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posted on
04/28/2009 12:35:37 PM PDT
by
EggsAckley
("There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply." W.C Fields)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Obama has the last word on when Air Force One is in use. Whoever was involved had to go through him. That is why nothing will happen to Caldera.
18
posted on
04/28/2009 12:35:50 PM PDT
by
Jaidyn
To: CASchack
Well Obama went to the golf course like OJ did.
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posted on
04/28/2009 12:37:05 PM PDT
by
massgopguy
(I owe everything to George Bailey)
To: JennysCool
The ENTIRE purpose of this "investigation" will be to make absolutely certain that all traces of Obama's involvement are eradicated.Then the White House needs Jamie Gorelick and Sandy Burger fronting for the Anointed One.
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posted on
04/28/2009 12:38:49 PM PDT
by
OrioleFan
(Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
To: EggsAckley
so is cowering at the slightest thing.
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posted on
04/28/2009 12:39:56 PM PDT
by
09Patriot
(I am a MILITANT Conservative, compassionate conservatism got us NOWHERE)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Obama will get to the bottom of this.
"Now whose plane was it, anyway?"
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Rush was absolutely right today:
Obama wants credit for what the Navy Seals did, when they shot three Pirates off the coast of Somalia.
However, Obama does not have ANY idea where Air Force One is?
This is absurd!
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posted on
04/28/2009 12:40:28 PM PDT
by
Kansas58
To: Kansas58
Narcissist!
24
posted on
04/28/2009 12:41:15 PM PDT
by
gathersnomoss
(General George Patton had it right.)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
What non-military personnel were aboard the plane?
25
posted on
04/28/2009 12:41:18 PM PDT
by
fso301
To: 09Patriot
That’s really easy to say from a state that has nothing of interest as a terrorist target.
26
posted on
04/28/2009 12:41:19 PM PDT
by
Travis T. OJustice
(I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
When will Al Gore demand “carbon credits” be purchased from him, to make up for the “carbon footprint” of AF 1 and two fighter jets?
27
posted on
04/28/2009 12:41:57 PM PDT
by
Kansas58
To: 09Patriot
You know nothing.
Goodbye, Mr. “Turist” Attack
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posted on
04/28/2009 12:42:00 PM PDT
by
EggsAckley
("There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply." W.C Fields)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Another Obama administration joy ride at public expense.
I suppose half of Manhattan was having flash backs. Fine, NYC you helped vote this guy in. You can't blame this on George Bush and the rest of the Republicans.
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posted on
04/28/2009 12:42:49 PM PDT
by
oyez
(To the extent veterans read it as an accusation -- and apology is owed(i.e. not given))
To: SonOfDarkSkies
White House declined to make Louis Caldera, the director of the White House Military Office who took responsibility for the decision to conduct the New York flyover, available for an interview. In their own special way, this White House is completely transparent.
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posted on
04/28/2009 12:42:57 PM PDT
by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Michell’s voice from the White house Presidential quarters, “Bo, bad dog! Stay away from daddy’s plane!”
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posted on
04/28/2009 12:43:21 PM PDT
by
Eaker
(The Two Loudest Sounds in the World.....Bang When it should have been Click and the Reverse.)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Why would anyone believe anything that pig Gibbs have to say? Barack was furious? I doubt it. I’d be willing to bet he ordered it!
To: SonOfDarkSkies
For those who want to know,
Obama is laughing is A$$ off
at those stupid New Yorkers running like rabbits
from a CONSTITUTIONALLY UNQUALLIFIED MUZZL'EM Piece Of Socialism!!!
Order JO 7110.65S
Air Traffic Control
February 14, 2008
This web version contains Change 1, dated 7/31/2008
(Pertinent Excerpts)
2-1-1. ATC SERVICE (page 2-1-1)
The primary purpose of the ATC system is to prevent a collision between aircraft operating in the system and to organize and expedite the flow of traffic, and to provide support for National Security and Homeland Defense. In addition to its primary function, the ATC system has the capability to provide (with certain limitations) additional services. The ability to provide additional services is limited by many factors, such as the volume of traffic, frequency congestion, quality of radar, controller workload, higher priority duties, and the pure physical inability to scan and detect those situations that fall in this category. It is recognized that these services cannot be provided in cases in which the provision of services is precluded by the above factors. Consistent with the aforementioned conditions, controllers shall provide additional service procedures to the extent permitted by higher priority duties and other circumstances. The provision of additional services is not optional on the part of the controller, but rather is required when the work situation permits. Provide air traffic control service in accordance with .....
2-1-2. DUTY PRIORITY
a. Give first priority to separating aircraft and issuing safety alerts as required in this order. Good judgment shall be used in prioritizing all other provisions of this order based on the requirements of the situation at hand.
REFERENCE-
FAAO JO 7110.65, Para 2-1-6, Safety Alert.
NOTE-
Because there are many variables involved, it is virtually impossible to develop a standard list of duty priorities that would apply uniformly to every conceivable situation. Each set of circumstances must be evaluated on its own merit, and when more than one action is required, controllers shall exercise their best judgment based on the facts and circumstances known to them. That action which is most critical from a safety standpoint is performed first.
b. Provide support to national security and homeland defense activities to include, but not be limited to, reporting of suspicious and/or unusual aircraft/pilot activities.
REFERENCE-
FAAO JO 7610.4, Special Operations.
c. Provide additional services to the extent possible, contingent only upon higher priority duties and other factors including limitations of radar, volume of traffic, frequency congestion, and workload.
2-1-4. OPERATIONAL PRIORITY(page 2-1-2)
Provide air traffic control service to aircraft on a first come, first served" basis as circumstances permit, except the following:
NOTE-
It is solely the pilot's prerogative to cancel an IFR flight plan. However, a pilot's retention of an IFR flight plan does not afford priority over VFR aircraft. For example, this does not preclude the requirement for the pilot of an arriving IFR aircraft to adjust his/her flight path, as necessary, to enter a traffic pattern in sequence with arriving VFR aircraft.
a. An aircraft in distress has the right of way over all other air traffic.
REFERENCE-
14 CFR Section 91.113(c).
b. Provide priority to civilian air ambulance flights LIFEGUARD." Air carrier/taxi usage of the LIFEGUARD" call sign, indicates that operational priority is requested. When verbally requested, provide priority to military air evacuation flights (AIR EVAC, MED EVAC) and scheduled air carrier/air taxi flights. Assist the pilots of air ambulance/evacuation aircraft to avoid areas of significant weather and turbulent conditions. When requested by a pilot, provide notifications to expedite ground handling of patients, vital organs, or urgently needed medical materials.
NOTE-
It is recognized that heavy traffic flow may affect the controller's ability to provide priority handling. However, without compromising safety, good judgment shall be used in each situation to facilitate the most expeditious movement of a lifeguard aircraft.
c. Provide maximum assistance to SAR aircraft performing a SAR mission.
REFERENCE-
FAAO JO 7110.65, Para 10-1-3, Providing Assistance.
d. Expedite the movement of presidential aircraft and entourage and any rescue support aircraft as well as related control messages when traffic conditions and communications facilities permit.
NOTE-
As used herein the terms presidential aircraft and entourage include aircraft and entourage of the President, Vice President, or other public figures when designated by the White House.
REFERENCE-
FAAO JO 7110.65, Para 2-4-20, Aircraft Identification.
FAAO JO 7110.65, Para 4-3-2, Departure Clearances.
FAAO JO 7210.3, Para 5-1-1, Advance Coordination.
e. Provide special ...
4-3-2. DEPARTURE CLEARANCES (page 4-3-1)
Include the following items in IFR departure clearances:
NOTE-
When considered necessary, controllers or pilots may initiate read backs of a clearance. Some pilots may be required by company rule to do so.
a. Always include the airport of departure when issuing a departure clearance for relay to an aircraft by an FSS, dispatcher, etc.
b. Clearance Limit.
1. Specify the destination airport when practicable, even though it is outside controlled airspace. Issue short range clearances as provided for in any procedures established for their use.
2. For Air Force One (AF1) operations, do not specify the destination airport.
NOTE-
Presidential detail is responsible for ensuring the accuracy of the destination airport.
PHRASEOLOGY-
DESTINATION AS FILED.
Order JO 7210.3V
Chapter 5. Special Flight Handling
Section 1. Presidential Aircraft
5-1-1. ADVANCE COORDINATION (Pages 5-1-1 thru 5-1-3)
NOTE- Presidential aircraft and entourage, referred to herein, include aircraft and entourage of the President, the Vice President, or other public figures designated by the White House.
a. An advance survey group comprised of representatives of the Office of the Military Assistant to the President, the U.S. Secret Service, the White House Staff, and a Presidential Advance Agent may visit each location which the Presidential aircraft will transit. The visit is normally made several days in advance of the trip to determine security aspects and the availability of supporting services. On this visit the group may meet with the airport operator, the ATCT manager, and other interested parties. Based on the evaluation by this group, a decision is made on the use of the airport, and further coordination is planned for an advance group.
b. The advance group, comprised of representatives of the same organizations stated in subpara a, will meet with the same airport elements to complete security measures and supporting services and determine the necessary restrictions to air traffic operations before the arrival and the departure of the Presidential aircraft and while the Presidential entourage is on the airport. The security provisions may include stationing a guard in the tower cab or at the tower entrance and maintaining two-way communications between the control tower and agents on the ground. This meeting will be held several days in advance of the planned arrival of the Presidential aircraft. The advance group has been requested to have all elements of the group coordinate with the FAA simultaneously. 1. The air traffic manager shall appoint an air traffic supervisor to serve as coordinator who will be responsible for attending all meetings and briefing all affected personnel. Additionally, the coordinator shall brief the ATCSCC and the appropriate ARTCC of any traffic delays or restrictions.
2. All advance coordination shall be documented, with special attention given to routes, radio frequencies, and assigned transponder codes. This documentation shall be made available to the personnel on duty who will be handling the Presidential movement.
3. The meeting shall be attended by the ATCT manager, the coordinator, and, if available, the supervisory specialist(s) who will be on duty and directly involved in the control of airport traffic during the arrival and departure, and while the Presidential entourage is on the airport.
4. The air traffic manager shall take whatever steps are necessary to ensure that the Presidential flight, airplanes, helicopters, and entourage are given priority. Restrictions will be placed upon normal air traffic operations to provide priority unless directed otherwise by the Presidential advance agent (USAF) or the Secret Service representative; the latter when the Presidential advance agent (USAF) is not directly involved. ATCT personnel shall be guided by the determinations of the advance group and shall cooperate to the maximum extent possible. The air traffic manager shall consider the following alternatives:
(a) Employing air traffic control techniques to temporarily adjust or suspend the movement of traffic to accommodate the arrival and the departure of the Presidential aircraft and while the Presidential entourage is on the airport.
(b) Requesting traffic, by NOTAM, to voluntarily conform to restrictions in the vicinity of an airport. The NOTAM shall give details of the restrictions and should be cleared by the advance group. It shall avoid any reference to Presidential activities and shall be issued at least 8 hours in advance.
EXAMPLE-
ALL TRAFFIC CAN EXPECT DELAYS FROM (date/ time) TO (date/time) AND FROM (date/time) TO (date/time).
(c) The time will normally be 15 minutes before to 15 minutes after the arrival and the departure time.
c. If the advance group determines that mandatory airspace restrictions are required, the Washington headquarters office of the U.S. Government agency responsible for the protection of the personage concerned will contact FAA Headquarters in accordance with established procedures and request the necessary regulatory action. The air traffic manager shall advise the Service Area office of the regulatory proposal. (See 14 CFR Section 91.141 and FAAO JO 7610.4, Special Operations.)
NOTE-
The actions established herein do not affect the provisions of 14 CFR Section 91.113(b); i.e., an aircraft in distress has the right-of-way over all other air traffic.
REFERENCE-
FAAO 7930.2, Para 7-1-1, FDC NOTAM Categories.
d. To ensure radio communications and radar service, the following should be coordinated with the advance group:
1. All aircraft in the flight should be assigned a discrete transponder code. As a minimum, the lead aircraft and the aircraft containing the President should turn their transponders on when flying in formation. In the event of a formation breakup, all aircraft should squawk their assigned code to facilitate auto-acquire.
2. Normal frequencies are preferred over discrete frequencies.
NOTE-
Secret Service personnel will transmit progress reports on the Presidential entourage to the affected tower as soon as possible.
e. Prior to the actual operation, action shall be taken to ensure that all air traffic specialists who will be on duty during the arrival and departure of the Presidential aircraft are thoroughly briefed concerning the arrangements pertaining to the operation, including movements of the Presidential entourage while on the airport.
f. At military airports, the base commander will determine the restriction or delay of flight operations into that airport and the need to issue a NOTAM. He/she should coordinate his/her actions with the appropriate FAA facilities if air traffic will be affected.
5-1-2. MONITORING THE PRESIDENTIAL AIRCRAFT FLIGHT (Page 5-1-2)
a. Advance scheduled movement information of Presidential aircraft received from the White House shall be distributed to the air traffic manager of each facility through which the Presidential aircraft will transit. The air traffic manager will be notified of the scheduled movement by the appropriate Service Area office or, when time critical, by national headquarters through the ATCSCC.
b. Presidential aircraft shall be aurally and visually monitored by a supervisory specialist/controller- in-charge (CIC) from departure to arrival. The air traffic manager of each facility through which the Presidential aircraft transits shall ensure that a supervisory specialist/CIC aurally and visually monitors the aircraft while in the facility's airspace. The supervisory specialist/CIC shall:
1. Be present at each sector/position providing ATC service to the Presidential aircraft from the flight's entry in the facility's airspace until the flight exits the facility's airspace.
2. Aurally and visually monitor the flight to ensure that separation, control, and coordination are accomplished.
NOTE-
Supervisors and managers at FAA Contract Towers (FCT) are qualified to perform the duties required in para 5-1-2.
5-1-3. USE OF FAA COMMUNICATIONS CIRCUITS (Page 5-1-2)
Operations personnel shall expedite the movement of Presidential aircraft and related control messages when traffic conditions and communications facilities permit. Honor any request of the pilot concerning movement of the aircraft if the request can be fulfilled in accordance with existing control procedures. Also, honor any request of the pilot, Office of the Vice President, Secret Service, or White House Staff for the relay, via FAA communications circuits, of information regarding the movement or proposed movement of the aircraft.
5-1-4. SECURITY OF INFORMATION (Page 5-1-2)
FAA personnel shall not release any information concerning Presidential flights to anyone outside the FAA except properly identified White House staff members, Secret Service personnel, or appropriate military authorities. Any inquiries from the press or others for information regarding the movement of these aircraft shall be referred to the White House, the Secret Service, the Air Force, or their representatives at either the point of departure or arrival. These security measures also apply to information regarding the movement of Presidential or Vice Presidential family aircraft.
5-1-5. MOVEMENT INFORMATION (Page 5-1-3)
Honor any request of the pilot concerning movement of the Presidential aircraft if it can be fulfilled in accordance with existing control procedures. Also, honor any request of the pilot, Secret Service, White House Staff, or Office of the Vice President for the relay, via FAA communications circuits or Defense Switching Network (DSN), of information regarding the movement or the proposed movement of these aircraft.
5-1-6. COORDINATION (Page 5-1-3)
ARTCCs shall call CARF direct for ALTRV approval on any Presidential aircraft international flight plan received less than 4 hours before departure.
5-1-7. RESCUE SUPPORT AIRCRAFT (Page 5-1-3)
When rescue support aircraft are used, the aircraft will depart from various bases and will file flight plans which will place the aircraft on tracks in proximity of the Presidential aircraft for contingency purposes. Orbits may also be used by the rescue support aircraft. These aircraft will be identified in the remarks section of the flight plan as Rescue for purposes of radio and interphone communications.
REFERENCE-
FAAO JO 7110.65, Para 2-4-20, Aircraft Identification.

I hope this information and links sheds some light on the fact that Air Force 1 goes nowhere without the President KNOWING AND APPROVING IT!!!
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posted on
04/28/2009 12:46:31 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
To: Eaker
Bo, bad dog! Stay away from daddys plane!I think Bammy should order a review of BO's whereabouts yesterday. Some real official lookin'!
To: phoenix07
He had to have been told since one of the two vitally essential planes would be out of service for his emergency use should need arise. O bow ma is dfoing what an affirmative action fraud always does, he’s lying through his teeth and his sycophants don’t care one bit that they are being lied to ... it’s from their messiah don’tchaknow.
35
posted on
04/28/2009 12:47:32 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: JennysCool
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina
Your momma don't dance, and your daddy don't rock and roll.
36
posted on
04/28/2009 12:48:26 PM PDT
by
Sig Sauer P220
(We have our own pirates. They're called politicians.)
To: Dan(9698)
“He looked for years on golf courses and didn’t find anything.”
Sure he did. He collected lots of errant golf balls.
37
posted on
04/28/2009 12:48:45 PM PDT
by
LottieDah
(If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
What a great idea. Let’s do a photo op of the photo op.
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Not to be outdone, look for Nancy Pelosi’s C-32 to be buzzing the Golden Gate Bridge and TransAmerica building this weekend.
39
posted on
04/28/2009 12:49:26 PM PDT
by
OrioleFan
(Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
As if Obama didn’t know anything about it or have anything to do with it! Yeah, just like he is ‘leading’ the country but we shouldn’t expect him to take responsibility for it when he screws it up!
40
posted on
04/28/2009 12:51:34 PM PDT
by
kcvl
To: MHGinTN
You are correct!
These two planes are a matter of national security.
One of them and possibly both (one as backup) might be needed to tranport the President, his staff, and family to an undisclosed location in the case of a national emergency.
When President Bush made his surprise visit to Iraq, both planes went. If the one being used had a breakdown, the extra plane was needed to assure the President's safe extraction.
To: LottieDah
Sure he did. He collected lots of errant golf balls. He was selling them to pay off that judgement.
He found it was a distraction, though.
He had to get back to looking for the real killers.
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Mr. Gibbs said Mr. Obama was "furious" when he heard about the photo stunt that had brought painful memories of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to mind for many New York-area residents. Is this the same 'Mr. 'do you think I know where AFOne is all the time" Gibbs' who didn't know anything about it yesterday?!
43
posted on
04/28/2009 12:54:16 PM PDT
by
kcvl
To: OrioleFan
44
posted on
04/28/2009 12:54:27 PM PDT
by
OrioleFan
(Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
To: Dan(9698)
“He had to get back to looking for the real killers.”
OJ spotted the real killer when he looked in the mirror.
45
posted on
04/28/2009 12:55:20 PM PDT
by
LottieDah
(If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Mr. Gibbs said Mr. Obama was "furious"How macho of Obama.
I feel safer, now that Obama has proven he will fiercely protect us from yet another fake crisis. /s
46
posted on
04/28/2009 12:55:33 PM PDT
by
syriacus
(Sign on Obama's desk: "THE BUCK STOPS elsewHERE.")
To: fso301
What non-military personnel were aboard the plane?You can bet there were some on board but we will never find out who they were!
47
posted on
04/28/2009 12:56:17 PM PDT
by
kcvl
To: SonOfDarkSkies
This is pure lies on Obama’s part. he know when Scare Force One will be flying, why and to where. That bird doesn’t fly without his permission.
48
posted on
04/28/2009 12:58:51 PM PDT
by
CodeToad
(If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
To: Yosemitest
Air Force 1 goes nowhere without the President KNOWING AND APPROVING IT!!! A little louder!
49
posted on
04/28/2009 1:01:20 PM PDT
by
kcvl
To: Political Junkie Too
true
50
posted on
04/28/2009 1:02:35 PM PDT
by
TeleStraightShooter
(Barack deserves Mussolini's title: Head of Government, Duce of Fascism,and Destroyer of Capitalism)
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