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FAA Memo: Feds Knew NYC Flyover Would Cause Panic
SeeBS ^ | 4/28/09

Posted on 04/28/2009 2:44:15 PM PDT by Crazieman

Threatened Federal Sanctions Against NYPD, Secret Service, FBI & Mayor's Office If Secret Ever Got Out

Furious Obama Apologizes: "It Will Never Happen Again"

A furious President Barack Obama ordered an internal review of Monday's low-flying photo op over the Statue of Liberty.

CBS 2 HD has discovered the feds will have plenty to question.

Federal officials knew that sending two fighter jets and Air Force One to buzz ground zero and Lady Liberty might set off nightmarish fears of a 9/11 replay, but they still ordered the photo-op kept secret from the public.

In a memo obtained by CBS 2 HD the Federal Aviation Administration's James Johnston said the agency was aware of "the possibility of public concern regarding DOD (Department of Defense) aircraft flying at low altitudes" in an around New York City. But they demanded total secrecy from the NYPD, the Secret Service, the FBI and even the mayor's office and threatened federal sanctions if the secret got out.

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1 posted on 04/28/2009 2:44:17 PM PDT by Crazieman
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To: Crazieman

“Threatened Federal Sanctions..... If Secret Ever Got Out”

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What “secret”?

Who is using the term “secret”?


2 posted on 04/28/2009 2:47:19 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Crazieman
But they demanded total secrecy from ... even the mayor's office and threatened federal sanctions if the secret got out.

Uh, Bloomberg said he had no idea this was going to happen. Somebody is lying.

3 posted on 04/28/2009 2:47:39 PM PDT by library user
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To: Crazieman

Pitchforks.


4 posted on 04/28/2009 2:47:50 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( AR2, Overdue! = American Revolution II...Overdue.)
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To: Crazieman

This was a friggin game to them.


5 posted on 04/28/2009 2:48:12 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: Crazieman

Photoshop would have been cheaper and safer.

I still think that the AF1 was used as a Wild Weasel like in Vietnam to draw out SAMs.

Obama has been using baiting scenarios to draw out “terrorists” for the last two months in all shades of tactics.


6 posted on 04/28/2009 2:48:15 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Crazieman

If the ‘secret’ got out?? What in the world? Were they afraid some bitter Republican gun-clinger would take a shot at AF-1 from his penthouse high rise?


7 posted on 04/28/2009 2:48:42 PM PDT by perchprism
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To: Crazieman

8 posted on 04/28/2009 2:49:28 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (An oath to a liar is no oath at all)
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To: Crazieman
The mayoral aide who neglected to tell Mayor Michael Bloomberg about it was reprimanded.

SAY WHAT?

9 posted on 04/28/2009 2:49:36 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: EyeGuy

Obama keeps digging himself deeper and deeper, doesn’t he?


10 posted on 04/28/2009 2:50:54 PM PDT by library user
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To: Eye of Unk
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11 posted on 04/28/2009 2:51:18 PM PDT by Never on my watch (The scientist who would have discovered the cure to AIDS in the Amazon was aborted in January 1978)
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To: perchprism

They were afraid of someone asking if it was really necessary to spend all that money for a pretty picture.


12 posted on 04/28/2009 2:51:45 PM PDT by Gomez (killer of threads)
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To: Crazieman

What a bunch of creeps.


13 posted on 04/28/2009 2:51:51 PM PDT by modest proposal (We got short-changed.)
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To: Crazieman

With knockout and photoshop around there was no need for all this.


14 posted on 04/28/2009 2:52:14 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: library user

“The mayoral aide who neglected to tell Mayor Michael Bloomberg about it was reprimanded.”

From article.


15 posted on 04/28/2009 2:52:23 PM PDT by Marmolade
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To: Yaelle

Thanks. I didn’t click the link to read that far.

This is going to be 0’s Lewinsky Scandal, if not something far more disastrous than that.


16 posted on 04/28/2009 2:52:30 PM PDT by library user
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To: Never on my watch

Is it possible that this wasn’t a photo op, but a sightseeing flyover by some VIP (foreign or domestic)—hence the need for F-16s to accompany it, and the lack of prior public announcement (for security)?


17 posted on 04/28/2009 2:52:34 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Marmolade

Got it. Thanks (had not read that far).


18 posted on 04/28/2009 2:53:09 PM PDT by library user
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To: Yaelle

“The mayoral aide who neglected to tell Mayor Michael Bloomberg about it was reprimanded.
SAY WHAT?”

He vas merely following orderz.


19 posted on 04/28/2009 2:53:50 PM PDT by Never on my watch (The scientist who would have discovered the cure to AIDS in the Amazon was aborted in January 1978)
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To: Crazieman

They would have impeached Bush for this little stunt. America is a sick nation...


20 posted on 04/28/2009 2:53:53 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: library user

The article says a mayoral aide kept it from bloomie.


21 posted on 04/28/2009 2:54:05 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: CondorFlight

We need to demand they make public every single person on board....not that we can trust them to tell the truth.


22 posted on 04/28/2009 2:54:36 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: EyeGuy

Who did the threatening? Rahm or Axelrod?


23 posted on 04/28/2009 2:54:42 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: EyeGuy

We can tell the bad guys how we are going to interrogate them so they can prepare but this stunt is kept a Secret? Have we entered the twilight zone?


24 posted on 04/28/2009 2:55:11 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Hey Obama, the world loved Bill Clinton too, but radical muslims still attacked us.)
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To: jennyjenny

They continue to spit in every face in America...I think people are so shocked by this guy that they can’t react rationally. Obama is crazy and nobody wants to call the emperor naked.


25 posted on 04/28/2009 2:55:47 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Crazieman

If this was a photo-op, who was going to take the pictures and from where? And why can’t we see the photos, now that NYC has had the crap scared out of it? We have seen the amateur photos, we know it happened. Why are the pics a secret?


26 posted on 04/28/2009 2:56:10 PM PDT by Free State Four
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To: library user

I just don’t get it:

1) If the reason was as stated “souvenir photos”, why did it need to be a “secret”.

2) They have all these NYC bureaucratic entities on board to keep this a secret, as if a low-flying jumbo jet over Manhattan could be kept on the down-low.

Something either very sinister, or very stupid (or both) is at work here.

I’m at a loss and and open to conjecture from anyone.


27 posted on 04/28/2009 2:56:12 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: CondorFlight

And yet no manifest released as to WHO was on board. FOIA anyone?


28 posted on 04/28/2009 2:56:31 PM PDT by hkp123
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To: Crazieman
For those who want to know,

Order JO 7110.65S
Air Traffic Control
February 14, 2008

This web version contains Change 1, dated 7/31/2008



29 posted on 04/28/2009 2:57:01 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

hee hee


30 posted on 04/28/2009 2:57:52 PM PDT by MeekMom (http://www.soroswatch.com/)
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To: CondorFlight

“Is it possible that this wasn’t a photo op”

Nah, it was a photo op. These are done quite often but it would not be a secret.

The difference here is that the Obama is a complete idiot.


31 posted on 04/28/2009 2:58:38 PM PDT by Never on my watch (The scientist who would have discovered the cure to AIDS in the Amazon was aborted in January 1978)
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To: April Lexington

re: 20
indeed


32 posted on 04/28/2009 2:58:46 PM PDT by MeekMom (http://www.soroswatch.com/)
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To: Gomez
There is more to this story than just a photo op. I would like to see the manifest and find out who was on the aircraft. Could be a big time crony of Obama or Emanuel on a joy ride.

They couldn't keep this "secret" when you have the plane and fighter aircraft flying at low levels over a metro area of more than 14 million people. The only "secret" would be the time of day. Of course Obama is "furious" and accepting no blame, as usual.

33 posted on 04/28/2009 2:58:48 PM PDT by kabar
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To: CondorFlight

obama claims it was for the DOD website. Funny, but the Defense department never did things like this under W, or Clinton, or Bush 41, or Reagan....or any other administration. I’m unspeakably offended that obama wants to blame the military for this.

The photo op thing is sounding less likely all the time. In any case, I don’t think many people are going to believe the “I didn’t know anything about it” jazz.


34 posted on 04/28/2009 2:59:02 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: Crazieman

So the POTUS didn’t know where the plane was nor what was being done with it. And the Mayor of NYC was not told what was about to take place that somebody knew would cause TERROR for thousands of NYers. WHO runs this country? WHO is running America’s largest city? Is anyone in charge? And has anyone been fired?

Where are the adults????????????????????????


35 posted on 04/28/2009 2:59:33 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Crazieman
they demanded total secrecy from the NYPD, the Secret Service, the FBI and even the mayor's office and threatened federal sanctions if the secret got out

Someone has to be fired for such arrogance. I could understand if 0 was on the plane, but he wasn't. It was a 747 flying around Manhattan with FIGHTERS chasing it.

What numbnutz thought this was a great idea and for what purpose?

36 posted on 04/28/2009 3:00:31 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: Never on my watch

love your tagline.


37 posted on 04/28/2009 3:01:15 PM PDT by MeekMom (http://www.soroswatch.com/)
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To: Crazieman

Is there a website where we can go look at all the previous souvenir photos?


38 posted on 04/28/2009 3:01:39 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: CondorFlight
Is it possible that this wasn’t a photo op, but a sightseeing flyover by some VIP (foreign or domestic)—hence the need for F-16s to accompany it, and the lack of prior public announcement (for security)?

That certainly sounds plausible. An 0bama version of the Lincoln Bedroom fiasco. Paying back some high-rolling donor with the grand tour. And maybe the personage is muslim or stinks in some other way we are not fit to know; our provincial little minds cannot appreciate these things, thus the secrecy.

It makes sense. Now if only we could nail it.

39 posted on 04/28/2009 3:02:02 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( AR2, Overdue! = American Revolution II...Overdue.)
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To: Crazieman

I’m waiting for Sen. Leaky to advocate against prosecuting James Johnston at the FAA, but going after his superiors who ordered the photos.


40 posted on 04/28/2009 3:02:19 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Never on my watch

Based on my experience as part of WH advance teams for more than a dozen visits, they are not done quite often. Security for the plane is very high and every effort is made not to expose it to any unnecessary risk. This instance is not normal.


41 posted on 04/28/2009 3:02:33 PM PDT by kabar
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To: penelopesire

You are asking the wrong person...I’m still asking questions myself.....Sorry


42 posted on 04/28/2009 3:04:28 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Crazieman

Chief Of Staff hold dept meetings this was on someones calendar and schedule of events that are reviewed and approved by the WH Chief of Staff and all of the Presidents aides...

People knew so why the cover up? Why the secrecy? Why the threats to the NYC PD not to inform anyone? Who was on the plane? Who was taking the photos?

There is so much wrong with this story it is insane.

If the buck stops at Obama who is going to be held accountable?

How will they be held accountable?

(I am very disappointed in you, Louis make sure it doesn’t happen again?) Is that it?

Has Obama appologized directly to the people that were terrorized by this?

Shouldn’t he visit NY and explain exactly what was going on?

Who pays for the disruption in NYC? Who pays for the Phsychological care requred for the PTSD inflicted?


43 posted on 04/28/2009 3:05:01 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Hey Obama, the world loved Bill Clinton too, but radical muslims still attacked us.)
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To: ElayneJ
I’m unspeakably offended that obama wants to blame the military for this.

If you watched the coverage on ABC or NBC this morning - they called it the "Air Force" and never mentioned Air Force One until the very end.... The words at the bottom of the screen was something like "Scare over New York caused by Air Force flyover"..... I was so mad!!!

44 posted on 04/28/2009 3:05:49 PM PDT by Momto2
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To: kabar

So this would only be done at the request of the person in the WH, right?


45 posted on 04/28/2009 3:06:47 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: Crazieman
The flyover -- apparently ordered by the White House Office of Military Affairs so it would have souvenir photos of Air Force One with the Statue of Liberty in the background -- had President Obama seeing red. He ordered a probe and apologized.

Souvenirs for FOO (Friends of Obama)

46 posted on 04/28/2009 3:07:06 PM PDT by keepitreal (Obama brings change: an international crisis (terrorism) within 6 months)
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To: windcliff; onedoug

ping


47 posted on 04/28/2009 3:08:23 PM PDT by stylecouncilor (The black man is keeping me down!)
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To: Crazieman

A terrorized population on edge will give up its rights faster to “be safe.”


48 posted on 04/28/2009 3:08:39 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (The government turns every contingency into an excuse for enhancing power in itself. - John Adams)
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To: Yosemitest
Thank you!
And what a damn good thing for 0bama that the plane didn't accidentally bump into anything, flying so close. Can you imagine the uproar if the President's plane hit a building in Manhattan?
49 posted on 04/28/2009 3:08:44 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( AR2, Overdue! = American Revolution II...Overdue.)
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To: Crazieman

We are allowing Obama to use this plane to do business for the American people, as it does belong to us. Evidently he does not respect our sacrifices for his comfort, safety and convenience, or he would willingly release any and all information regarding this flight, including the passenger list, to us, the owners of this fricking plane.


50 posted on 04/28/2009 3:09:17 PM PDT by Toespi
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