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FAA Memo: Feds Knew NYC Flyover Would Cause Panic
CBS via Drudge Report ^ | 4/28/2009

Posted on 04/28/2009 9:23:47 PM PDT by GVnana

FAA Memo: Feds Knew NYC Flyover Would Cause Panic
Threatened Federal Sanctions Against NYPD, Secret Service, FBI & Mayor's Office If Secret Ever Got Out

Furious Obama Apologizes: "It Will Never Happen Again"

CBS News Interactive: Sept. 11 And Since Reporting Marcia Kramer NEW YORK (CBS) ―

An F-16 fighter jet trails a larger military aircraft over Lower Manhattan Monday, April 27, 2009, conducting a photo shoot that panicked thousands of New Yorkers who believed the city was in jeopardy for another terrorist attack.

Dozens of people evacuated outside 17 State Street after military jets were seen escorting a 747 in Manhattan on April 27, 2009.

A furious President Barack Obama ordered an internal review of Monday's low-flying photo op over the Statue of Liberty.

CBS 2 HD has discovered the feds will have plenty to question.

Federal officials knew that sending two fighter jets and Air Force One to buzz ground zero and Lady Liberty might set off nightmarish fears of a 9/11 replay, but they still ordered the photo-op kept secret from the public.

In a memo obtained by CBS 2 HD the Federal Aviation Administration's James Johnston said the agency was aware of "the possibility of public concern regarding DOD (Department of Defense) aircraft flying at low altitudes" in an around New York City. But they demanded total secrecy from the NYPD, the Secret Service, the FBI and even the mayor's office and threatened federal sanctions if the secret got out.

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KEYWORDS: airforceone; bhoairforceone; bhofaa; obamaregime; obamunism; photogate
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To: kik5150

I am not a pilot, but I play one on tv. Seriously, a flight like this required LOTS of preplanning and LOTS of people involved. You cannot take a cessna up without lots of paperwork and such. What really bugs me is the fact that this was done. Who in the world wouldn’t know that this would absolutely freak the New Yorkers out. This admin is a combination of incompetence and out right evil. It’s just hard to tell when either is at play.
Also, do not count on the media getting to the bottom of this issue. obambi will make a pronouncement and it will be so. Same ol Same ol.


101 posted on 04/29/2009 3:49:01 AM PDT by Texas resident (Older but smarter)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
1) Who was on Air Force One for this flight?


102 posted on 04/29/2009 4:10:20 AM PDT by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: True Republican Patriot
Look at the angle of bank on that 747, its at least 45 degrees, being flown more like a Fighter than a Transport

Very good point! The only time we've seen that before was in the Harrison Ford film.

So was this for a film or (as you say) a thrill ride?

103 posted on 04/29/2009 4:20:34 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: GVnana; Army Air Corps; Red Steel
People, PLEASE. What's more important? Sane day-to-day actions and a healthy in tact psyche for millions of New Yorkers, or elaborate photo ops and constant 2012 campaign prep?
104 posted on 04/29/2009 4:26:12 AM PDT by 4Liberty (End of civilization. 'Who cares about a little pork?' - Senator Schumer)
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To: 4Liberty

105 posted on 04/29/2009 4:27:04 AM PDT by 4Liberty (End of civilization. 'Who cares about a little pork?' - Senator Schumer)
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To: 4Liberty

106 posted on 04/29/2009 4:27:48 AM PDT by 4Liberty (End of civilization. 'Who cares about a little pork?' - Senator Schumer)
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To: FreepShop1
FYI: the F-16 escort has a full red tail...

What is the signficance? Google 187th Fighter Wing of the Alabama Air National Guard...

So what, you say??

One word: Tuskegee

Got the picture yet??

107 posted on 04/29/2009 4:32:56 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: GVnana
Furious Obama Apologizes: "It Will Never Happen Again"

Bull! Now they have "new" photographs that "prove" Obomas friends weren't responsible for 9/11 - Bush blew up the towers!

They have a plane, NY buildings, and a panicked population.

Brace yourselves. These "Newly released 9/11 pictures" will be hitting the Internet soon.



108 posted on 04/29/2009 4:33:16 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Texas resident

see my post above.... make any sense yet?


109 posted on 04/29/2009 4:33:58 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

ROTFLMAO!


110 posted on 04/29/2009 4:35:58 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: jersey117

The Friends, during their obligatory 100 Days Celebration (yipee!), are still covering this story and playing the 911 calls all morning.


111 posted on 04/29/2009 4:39:00 AM PDT by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: GVnana
But they demanded total secrecy from the NYPD, the Secret Service, the FBI and even the mayor's office and threatened federal sanctions if the secret got out.

BLOOMBERG KNEW! Fake outrage from the Mayor yesterday, claiming he wasn't informed.

Remember "Turk 182", anyone? Let's just paraphrase:

"OBAMA FLEW, AND BLOOMBERG KNEW!"

112 posted on 04/29/2009 4:45:15 AM PDT by Old Sarge ("Remember, remember, the Fourth of November, the Socialist treason and plot...")
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To: Old Sarge

New York voted for him.


113 posted on 04/29/2009 4:46:58 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: JennysCool

My thoughts exactly. That plane was not empty.


114 posted on 04/29/2009 4:50:39 AM PDT by janipa
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To: GVnana

This was a test. 0bama wanted to see if it would get any reaction and would use that in saying the country is safe now that he is in charge. NOT!


115 posted on 04/29/2009 4:52:07 AM PDT by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: janipa

Michelle and the kids.


116 posted on 04/29/2009 4:58:23 AM PDT by qwertypie
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To: Razz Barry

I have a hard time believing that with the current pair of VC-25’S, having been in service since 1990, they have never taken the opportunity of shooting them over lower Manhattan and S.O.L. before now.


117 posted on 04/29/2009 4:59:52 AM PDT by stationkeeper
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To: GVnana

I talked to my brother who is a pilot and has quite a few opinions concerning the FAA none of them very good.
He told me he believes that it never would have occurred to the FAA to tell local authorities to keep the flyover a secret .That they are so absorbed in there own self importance that worrying about the little people is not something their minds are capable of.


118 posted on 04/29/2009 5:06:16 AM PDT by grjr21
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To: matthew fuller
Are you idiot New Yorkers gonna vote for this muslim again?

Yes.

Next question...

119 posted on 04/29/2009 5:09:12 AM PDT by Old Sarge ("Remember, remember, the Fourth of November, the Socialist treason and plot...")
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To: ak267
We'd all be reminded how insensitive and stupid our CIC was if this happened with Bush in the White House.
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120 posted on 04/29/2009 5:11:54 AM PDT by warsaw44
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To: GVnana
Go to their poll on this issue and ask who was on the plane.
121 posted on 04/29/2009 5:20:51 AM PDT by publiusF27
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To: slickfree
Wasn't the original painting (without AF1) to be shown in DC and then cancelled?


122 posted on 04/29/2009 5:23:55 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: GVnana
Steve Doocy just told Rudy that local reporters are working hard to get the manifest to find out just who was on that plane.
123 posted on 04/29/2009 5:31:56 AM PDT by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: newfreep

No, in NY—Union Square.


124 posted on 04/29/2009 5:33:34 AM PDT by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: GVnana

Obama looks more and more like a coke headed drunk who caught a buzz and wanted to cruise the hood in his pimped out jet. At hangover central the next day he has to deal with the panic he stirred up on top of a bad head. No wonder he is angry.


125 posted on 04/29/2009 5:38:50 AM PDT by Bertram3
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To: dajeeps

arrogant, selfish, narcissistical, retards.


126 posted on 04/29/2009 5:39:31 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: ponygirl
Showin’ off the pimped out seven-fo’-seven, big screen tv, smokin’ the crack pipe and grinding on some chicken & waffles.

You beat me to it by seven and a half hours.

127 posted on 04/29/2009 5:48:56 AM PDT by Bertram3
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To: BigSkyFreeper

You’re misinterpeting a lot of things here. Nobody said anything about the FAA “clearing military flights for air worthiness”. The FAA absolutely needs to be told and was told about these flights because the FAA is in charge of managing the incredibly crowded airspace around NYC, but they were probably not clear on just how close to buildings the planes would be flying.

And nobody said anything about President Obama being “kept out of the loop” for any reason, and certainly not because the flight was “so highly classified”. You can be sure that President Bush (or possibly Clinton, whoever was President at the time) had no clue about the details or timing of the AF1 flight that took the pictures of AF1 flying over Mount Rushmore — the picture that the new Statute of Liberty picture was intended to replace. In the normal course of events, publicity photos of Presidential hardware is trivia that the President doesn’t need or want to know about, so of course he wouldn’t have known about this one, other than perhaps to have approved the general idea of a photo of AF1 with the Stature of Liberty in the background to replace the Mount Rushmore photo (which was some sort of official publicity photo of AF1).

If some White House PR dude suggests to the President that the AF1-Rushmore photo be replaced with an AF1-Statue of Liberty, the normal repsonse from any President would be “Yeah, sure Joe, that sounds like a nice idea, go ahead and do it.” The President is not going to assume that the US Air Force requires supervision to accomplish this task — he probably wouldn’t even trouble himself to consider whether the photo would be shot directly or Photoshopped, much less how close to the Statue of Liberty the plane might fly if the photo was taken directly. It’s not his job. He has discovered the hard way, that one or more people in charge of things like military flights and AF1 are nowhere near as competent as he might have assumed (and remember, there’s no evidence that anyone directly involved with executing this “mission” is an Obama appointee — senior military personnel don’t change with administrations, and President Obama has even retained President Bush’s Secretary of Defense). Louis Caldera presumably made the same assumptions when he approved the photo-taking flights — again, he was almost certainly approving it in a very general way, reasonably assuming that the people who’ve been operating AF1 and fighter jets for many years, would continue to do so in a sane and rational manner.

What’s pretty clear is that there were communication failures at various levels, including within the NYC government. The people in Mayor Blooomberg’s administration who got the notification and didn’t bother to mention it to the Mayor, assumed that the flights were to be carried out in a way that wouldn’t cause any public alarm beyond a handful of people calling 911 for reassurance when they saw a jumbo jet being tailed by a fighter jet somewhere off in the distance. They very reasonably didn’t imagine that the planned flights were going to go unreasonably close to buildings in a way that was guaranteed to cause mass panic — they assumed the US military knows what the he!! it’s doing and wouldn’t do something colossally stupid. Somewhere up in the military, presumably somebody had planned the flight in detail, but then somewhere between that person and the person directly notifying the FAA, local governments, etc, there was a miscommunication about the specifics of the flight and thus about the need to either suubstantially modify it or do a large-scale advance public announcement about it. Again, there’s no evidence that any Obama appointees were involved in this chain of miscommunication. We won’t help avert future incidents like this, by pointing fingers at the wrong people.


128 posted on 04/29/2009 5:58:34 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GVnana
“...a large military aircraft...”

What a way to avoid saying what everyone knows...I WAS AIR FORCE ONE fercryinoutloud!

All in the OBVIOUS attempt to avoid the TOTUS association.

Pathetic!

George Orwell would be proud of this media.

note; yes. yes I know that unless the TOTUS in on board it isn't technically “air force one”. But come off it...ask any person to name that plane when they see a photo of it and they'll call it that too. So before the technicality nannies get all over my case, I thought I'd throw that note in.

129 posted on 04/29/2009 5:59:04 AM PDT by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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To: Texas Songwriter

That’s why I don’t buy this “photo op” cover...we could have easily paid a pro photoshopper $10,000 to doctor up some really good photos of the presidential plane with iconic scenery in the background, come out ahead financially, and not caused a panic.

There’s more to it than what they’re letting on. My theory is that they wanted to see how the public would react, as a sort of study. Why else would they have chosen to do so when people were just getting to work? They wanted it to feel just like it did 7 1/2 years ago...


130 posted on 04/29/2009 6:07:13 AM PDT by Zeppelin
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To: DrewsMum

sounds like a legalistic liberal church.

Besides that...

Search through Proverbs.
There are many nuggets of truth that will support your desire for wisdom and speaking the truth.

...or find a grace filled conservative church.

But whatever you do, do NOT give then free rent inside your head.


131 posted on 04/29/2009 6:07:18 AM PDT by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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To: GVnana

This story tells me there’s more about this incident than we’re hearing even now.


132 posted on 04/29/2009 6:15:58 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Empty Holster Protest: April 20 - 24. Join us. Visit ConcealedCampus.org for more)
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To: ak267
If this was done under the Bush Adm, the MSM would be going Ape Sh*t 24/7.

I'm pretty sure Bush ordered the stunt on Jan 19th, just to set Obama up for embarrassment!

133 posted on 04/29/2009 6:20:20 AM PDT by Zeppelin
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To: GVnana
Obama grins about Air Force One Flyover

Who else but a SADIST
(who employed "gallows humor" on 60 Minutes in front of millions of newly-impoverished Americans)
allows a pilot to slowly fly a 747 at a *dangerously* low altitude over the NY skyline?

*Video of Keith Olbermann, using the words "dangerously low"

134 posted on 04/29/2009 6:21:41 AM PDT by syriacus (Who else but a sadist with gallows humor has a 747 slowly fly at low altitude over the NY skyline?)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

When he said “the White House has it right” he was responding to the post that stated “they think they’re playing many of us for fools.”


135 posted on 04/29/2009 6:22:50 AM PDT by Zeppelin
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To: GVnana
But they demanded total secrecy from the NYPD, the Secret Service, the FBI and even the mayor's office and threatened federal sanctions if the secret got out.

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

This sentence is where the warning flag pops up. We MUST stop the total control of our lives by the centerlized government in Washington D.C.

136 posted on 04/29/2009 6:29:14 AM PDT by CHEE (Our Constitution is misstakeless. -- Mr. Haney (Green Acres's Pat Buttram))
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To: ponygirl

Apologize to horses everywhere NOW. She is Aunt Ester from Sanford and son.


137 posted on 04/29/2009 6:51:50 AM PDT by Rapunzel (Never forget Fallujah..S. Helvenston RIP.....Sarah...Sarah...Sarah loves America)
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To: EyeGuy
b) A truly professional media engaged in actual newsworthy reporting and public service.

Hey, there's an idea. Perhaps the Obama administration should consider nationalizing the media, to ensure unbiased, truthful reporting.

. . . Is a sarcasm tag needed here?

138 posted on 04/29/2009 6:53:01 AM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: tobyhill

If Obama is surprised this happened, the only explanation is a HIJACKED AF-ONE! Too bad the MSM has drank all the kool-aid. Maybe we should email the UK news and ask them to get to the bottom of this or Canada...


139 posted on 04/29/2009 6:58:12 AM PDT by Rapunzel (Never forget Fallujah..S. Helvenston RIP.....Sarah...Sarah...Sarah loves America)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
This doesn't make sense...

Not at all. That's why I'd like to see the FAA memo. CBS has a history with memos. ;)

Does anyone know if the memo is online somewhere?

140 posted on 04/29/2009 7:05:46 AM PDT by TankerKC (01/20/09 = 09/10/01)
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To: GVnana

This link explains the act of Federal Terrorism against the people of NYC.

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/air.force.one.2.996457.html

FAA Memo: Feds Knew NYC Flyover Would Cause Panic
Threatened Federal Sanctions Against NYPD, Secret Service, FBI & Mayor’s Office If Secret Ever Got Out
Furious Obama Apologizes: “It Will Never Happen Again”

Excerpted go to the link for full story:

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/air.force.one.2.996457.html


141 posted on 04/29/2009 7:17:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not criminals, foriegn/domestic terrorists, or tax cheats?)
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To: TankerKC

I’m sure there’s a whole series of memos and e-mails. Locating the exact source of the screw-up will be a challenge. My best guess is that there was just a disconnect between the people who knew the precise plan for the flights and the people farther down who were responsible for getting needed notifications out. It’s probably very standard procedure for any planned AF1 flights to be kept classified, except when it’s a flight involving a publicly-announced trip with POTUS, in which case a whole different set of policies and security measures are in place. Somebody near the end of the communication line probably did not have precise info about the unusual flight plan (i.e. that it involved locations and maneuvers likely to cause full-scale public panic if not publicly announced in advance), and applied the standard classification policy because doing so is clearly required unless a very clear exception has been ordered. Somebody higher up the line who did know the precise flight plans probably assumed it was so obvious that this required public notification, that he assumed that would be taken care of by people further down the line. Somehow, the info “this is exactly what the planes will do” got separated from the line of communication in which somebody orders somebody to order somebody to order somebody to make the proper notifications.


142 posted on 04/29/2009 7:18:09 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I’m sure there’s a whole series of memos and e-mails.

Yes, but I'm looking for the memo specifically mentioned in the article.

143 posted on 04/29/2009 7:46:05 AM PDT by TankerKC (01/20/09 = 09/10/01)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Democrat talking heads and politicians accused President Bush of being a cowboy, among other things. They squealed about his use of AF1 on September 11, 2001, for starters.

He would no more dream of sending his 747 with a military jet escort to buzz Manhattan and Jersey, than he would think of doing any of the other catastrophic changes that the Obama admin is perpetrating on the country.

This did not result in death, that we know of, like the invasion of the Branch Davidian complex did, but it is on the same order of arrogance.

Just horrible!


144 posted on 04/29/2009 8:02:52 AM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: TankerKC

Has Michelle’s whereabouts been verified for tht time period of the flight? She said she likes to “slip out” and do “fun” things. I’m inclined to believe that someone important was on the plane.


145 posted on 04/29/2009 8:04:47 AM PDT by WVNan (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
This would have been a lot simpler. Create-your-own NYC Air Force One flyover photo ... we did


146 posted on 04/29/2009 8:10:06 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: woollyone

“sounds like a legalistic liberal church.”

Oh no, quite the contrary. Just a small percentage of ignorant people...I only mentioned church, because I do go to church with SOME of them...there are others...it seems to be some of the Christians’(in general, not one church) mindsets out there. I think my church is wonderful, please do not misunderstand. I have been to bbbbbaaaaddddd ones before.

And don’t worry about me getting persuaded to that way of thinking....I’m a tough nut to crack. ;0) “strong-willed” is what my mother calls it....hahahah...


147 posted on 04/29/2009 8:14:10 AM PDT by DrewsMum (Let me get this straight--We can kill babies by mutilation, but we can't throw water on our enemies?)
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To: GVnana

Freepers said this monday.. I am just shocked the memo got out!! WOW


148 posted on 04/29/2009 8:16:32 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: GVnana

Hmmmm, photo-op vs psy-op


149 posted on 04/29/2009 8:18:42 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: DrewsMum
Well, here you go....some more joking about Obama for your friends.

New York City Flyover Pilot Revealed To Be Obama

"It has been revealed that the pilot of the President's plane that flew over New York City, the one that was accompanied by several military jets, the one that sent thousands of workers out of office buildings and running wildly in the streets, was actually the President himself - Barack Obama.

The President apologized for his actions and said he was sitting in the Oval Office reviewing some policy papers when a sudden desire to pilot his own jet came over him.

"I was so excited," the President said."....................
150 posted on 04/29/2009 8:20:21 AM PDT by Girlene
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