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FAA Memo: Feds Knew NYC Flyover Would Cause Panic
CBS via Drudge Report ^ | 4/28/2009

Posted on 04/28/2009 9:23:47 PM PDT by GVnana

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Obama's future campaign video is in the dustbin by now.
1 posted on 04/28/2009 9:23:47 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVnana

The GOP can CGI it close enough.


2 posted on 04/28/2009 9:26:38 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: GVnana
A furious President Barack Obama ordered an internal review

LOL! "Furious" my ass. Every media outlet buys this bullsh*t WH story. We all know damn well this was ordered by Axelrod himself for 2012 footage.

3 posted on 04/28/2009 9:27:01 PM PDT by FreepShop1 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: GVnana
An F-16 fighter jet trails a larger military aircraft over Lower Manhattan Monday, April 27, 2009, conducting a photo shoot that panicked thousands of New Yorkers who believed the city was in jeopardy for another terrorist attack.
4 posted on 04/28/2009 9:27:28 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVnana
And today, it was revealed this was a classified operation. It was so classified that even the president was unaware of it. LOL

These goof balls in the White House think they're playing many of us for fools.

5 posted on 04/28/2009 9:27:48 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: GVnana
An F-16 fighter jet trails a larger military aircraft over Lower Manhattan Monday, April 27, 2009, conducting a photo shoot that panicked thousands of New Yorkers who believed the city was in jeopardy for another terrorist attack.

What the h&!! do they need a "photo shoot" for. A total waste of taxpayer money.

6 posted on 04/28/2009 9:28:46 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

For now, unfortunately, the White House has it right.


7 posted on 04/28/2009 9:29:26 PM PDT by SRJeff (Another day older and deeper in debt)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
hese goof balls in the White House think they're playing many of us for fools.

Given the way the election went, I'd say they're right.

8 posted on 04/28/2009 9:30:13 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: GVnana

This clearly exposes how inexperienced and out of his league Obama is. If he can’t handle something so basic, how would he handle a serious crisis? And Biden was right about one thing, Obama will be tested. We’re in big trouble. 2010 and 2012 can’t get here fast enough.


9 posted on 04/28/2009 9:30:54 PM PDT by Proudcongal
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To: GVnana
Federal officials knew that sending two fighter jets and Air Force One to buzz ground zero and Lady Liberty might set off nightmarish fears of a 9/11 replay, but they still ordered the photo-op kept secret from the public.

Is it still a secret? Why Obama?

10 posted on 04/28/2009 9:31:09 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: GVnana

This stunt, reported by FOX, cost the US Taxpayers about $380,000.00.


11 posted on 04/28/2009 9:31:18 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: GVnana

The president didn’t know that Air Force One was flying over Manhattan?

Tell me another whopper!


12 posted on 04/28/2009 9:31:24 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: GVnana

Since Obama isn’t gun shy about releasing interrogation memos putting all of us at risk, I wonder why he hasn’t called for the public release of this memo over an incident that scared the crap out of every man, woman and child that lives and works near Ground Zero.


13 posted on 04/28/2009 9:31:30 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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Mr. Obama, may I recommend a little product called Photoshop?

If this was done under the Bush Adm, the MSM would be going Ape Sh*t 24/7.


14 posted on 04/28/2009 9:32:31 PM PDT by ak267
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Good point. Except...we know the answer already.


15 posted on 04/28/2009 9:32:52 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVnana
I wonder how much CO2 that put into the atmosphere. /s

Where's all this “live our values” stuff? Ah, but it's just so fine to waste money, put unnecessary pollution in the air and scare the day lights out of the same people who lived through 9/11.

Arrogant retards.

16 posted on 04/28/2009 9:34:51 PM PDT by dajeeps
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To: GVnana

Chaos and fear are a fascist’s best friend... He could’ve even been the one to say - “do it anyway” and we’d never know... I don’t trust him ONE BIT.


17 posted on 04/28/2009 9:35:56 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Razz Barry
A total waste of taxpayer money.

Excellent summary of the Obama Administration.
18 posted on 04/28/2009 9:37:13 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: SRJeff

Uh, no they don’t. The Air Force is certainly in charge of Air Force One but this decision to put it up in the air comes straight from Obama himself, and there is a lot of prior preparation and planning that goes into putting it up in the air. We’re not gonna learn much from Obama’s internal review. We’re certainly not going to learn that the White House is incompetent and I hardly believe Caldera will be out of work. What we already know is Obama’s dislike for the military. Even if he did know, this sort of crap fuels his ego.


19 posted on 04/28/2009 9:37:28 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: ak267
Mr. Obama, may I recommend a little product called Photoshop?

He must of wanted the genuine thing since his forgers botched his photoshopped 'Certification of Live Birth' /not so much sarcasm...

20 posted on 04/28/2009 9:37:40 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: GVnana

Fighters can photogragh but the quality sucks. There are better platforms to take pictures from. I submit to you that da bigg 0 loaned AF1 to one or more of his buddies for a fly-by and he will soon be outed.


21 posted on 04/28/2009 9:40:00 PM PDT by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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To: GVnana

Fighters can photogragh but the quality sucks. There are better platforms to take pictures from. I submit to you that da bigg 0 loaned AF1 to one or more of his buddies for a fly-by and he will soon be outed.


22 posted on 04/28/2009 9:41:08 PM PDT by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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To: Texas Songwriter
This stunt, reported by FOX, cost the US Taxpayers about $380,000.00.

The media's way of downplaying the entire event.

That number doesn't sound as big and mindboggling as $9 trillion, which is how much Obama has burned away in an effort to further his brand of Marxism.

23 posted on 04/28/2009 9:46:11 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: GVnana
And the Muslim jihadists laughed and laughed. “He's doing OUR job for us!”
24 posted on 04/28/2009 9:46:14 PM PDT by 444Flyer
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To: GVnana
OBAMA's First 100 DAYS - Now to sprout his OWN wings!

OUR PIRATE-IN-CHIEF IS "MOVING ON UP"

FROM PIRATE SHIPS UP TO SPREADING HIS WINGS
BEYOND AIR FORCE ONE

Anti-Christ Lives Again ... Rise in Three Days?
YES HE CAN

OBAMA CAN FLY, AND FLY HIGH!

25 posted on 04/28/2009 9:47:04 PM PDT by slickfree (Tax Payers ... wake up ! - Show your Disgust with Congress and Obama, the Pirate!)
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To: GVnana
OK, I'd like to know:

1) Who was on Air Force One for this flight?

2) How much did this Photo Op cost, at a time when my taxes are being raised to death our convenient “crisis”?

3) Who requested and authorized this fiasco?

4) Exactly how many thousands of citizens were terrified by this fiasco?

5)What was the intended use of the photos taken?

AND, BTW, Obama’s excuses: “The flyover — apparently ordered by the White House Office of Military Affairs so it would have souvenir photos of Air Force One with the Statue of Liberty in the background...” doesn't pass the “smell test”. No way the DOD dreamed up this stunt. Why didn't they do this over the past eight years if it was so important? No, it was Obama and his merry band of delinquents and thugs who dreamed up this mess, and they need to be furnished big time.

26 posted on 04/28/2009 9:49:19 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (What did Obama's Teleprompter know, and when did it know it...)
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To: slickfree

Sounds fishy. Sounds more like some VIP was given a sightseeing flyover—hence the need for F-16 escorts and no announcement to the public.

The rest is White House CYA, IMHO...


27 posted on 04/28/2009 9:50:23 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: GVnana

The MSM can’t cover up for Obama on this screw up.

The plane was in the friggin’ sky and it terrorize New Yorkers, many of whom probably voted for the big Zero.

People can see that with their own eyes and they ain’t buying the official story.

Since there is no reasonable explanation for what happen, the MSM will just have to sink this story down the memory hole. They will say, “The President apologized, so let’s just move on. Now, more about the swine flu.”


28 posted on 04/28/2009 9:50:27 PM PDT by Ticonderoga34 (A Community Organizer is the 21st century version of a Ward Heeler.)
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To: GVnana

If the press doesn’t zero in on this in the “100 Days” celebratory press conference, there is no press left at all.


29 posted on 04/28/2009 9:51:00 PM PDT by JennysCool (Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything. -- Wyatt Earp)
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To: dajeeps

Not only a waste of money, but in a time of recession to spend money for a photo-opp is ridiculous, evil, and incompetent. Zero and his buddies have no respect for the value of a tax dollar. For them it is like monopoly money to play with; oblivious to the consequences of their actions. The pain and suffering that will be caused by this fool will be astronomical in magnitude. GOD help us!


30 posted on 04/28/2009 9:51:10 PM PDT by Do the math (Doug)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

The answers to those highly legitimiate questions, (as well as some of my own that I have posed here), would require:

a) A Republican leadership with balls.

b) A truly professional media engaged in actual newsworthy reporting and public service.

In actuality, we have:

c) None of the above.


31 posted on 04/28/2009 9:53:33 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: FreepShop1

The secret part gets me though? Why did it need to be a secret?


32 posted on 04/28/2009 9:55:21 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (I hope people start listening to God......)
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To: CondorFlight
Sounds more like some VIP was given a sightseeing flyover—hence the need for F-16 escorts

Sounds like it to me, too. If this incident was actually what they were saying it was, a photo-op, they would have used a helicopter to get great shots of the plane and the terrain. Someone big enough to require a fighter escort was on that plane.

My guess is either a bigtime fundraiser, or Michelle and the kids.

33 posted on 04/28/2009 9:56:17 PM PDT by JennysCool (Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything. -- Wyatt Earp)
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To: GVnana

Obama was NOT FURIOUS! The Jerk was laughing about it even today sitting next to Robert Mueller. If ZERO was truly FURIOUS about it, He would have responded immediately and Baghdad Bob Gibbs wouldn’t have been laughing about it late in the afternoon, some eight hours after it happened and making a FOOL out of himself and ZERO HUSSEIN by telling the reporters they should contact the FAA or “THE WHITE HOUSE!” Gibbs is the WH, and the bassshat oughta at least know that! THIS was an Act of TERROR WROUGHT on ALL NEW YORKERS BY ZERO, HIMSELF!


34 posted on 04/28/2009 9:56:31 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: CondorFlight

There’s got to be a hidden message there somewhere.


35 posted on 04/28/2009 9:56:35 PM PDT by TiaS
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To: JennysCool

Maybe it was God.


36 posted on 04/28/2009 9:58:15 PM PDT by TiaS
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To: TiaS
Maybe it was God.

I think He's got his own plane.

37 posted on 04/28/2009 9:59:39 PM PDT by JennysCool (Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything. -- Wyatt Earp)
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To: kennyboy509

I’d bet on that one, too. Showin’ off the pimped out seven-fo’-seven, big screen tv, smokin’ the crack pipe and grinding on some chicken & waffles.


38 posted on 04/28/2009 10:00:27 PM PDT by ponygirl
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To: GVnana

Look at the angle of bank on that 747, its at least 45 degrees, being flown more like a Fighter than a Transport:-)
Bettin that ZERO and some of his Buddies were on board for a Thrill Ride and an Ego Trip! Reggie Love was no doubt serving ZERO peanut butter sandwiches and helping him wipe his lips as all good butlers do:-(


39 posted on 04/28/2009 10:01:05 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I agree. The FAA and the military were taking orders. It was Obama or whomever they perceive to be giving the orders from the White House. If they thought that it would cause panic, they were in no position to argue with whomever it was that gave the order. Therefore, it had to be the CinC or the person that they thought was above him in calling the shots.
Any judgment call of panic on their part had to be weighed against the consequences of not obeying the orders from someone above their paygrade.
There is no one with a paygrade above Obama now. He is responsible.
40 posted on 04/28/2009 10:01:21 PM PDT by madinmadtown (It is good to be right.)
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To: JennysCool

Someone big enough to require a fighter escort was on that plane.

Fidel Castro? Hugo Chavez? King of Saud? King of Jordan?
We know it wasn’t Bibi.


41 posted on 04/28/2009 10:01:28 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Do the math

when’s the next lecture on fiscal responsibility? I want to know more about this...it makes NO SENSE. WHO WAS ON THAT PLANE? That’s confidential..but memos about interrogation have to be transparent. I swear we’ve all lost our collective mind.


42 posted on 04/28/2009 10:04:30 PM PDT by Hildy (Searching for God is like a fish searching for water....)
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To: ak267

AMEN! ZERO was sending a message to his Muslim Buddies! “Look what I can do at the snap of my Arab Fingers!” and tried to camouflage it as a photo op{*}


43 posted on 04/28/2009 10:04:49 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: FreepShop1
A furious President Barack Obama ordered an internal review.

LOL! "Furious" my ass. Every media outlet buys this bullsh*t WH story. We all know damn well this was ordered by Axelrod himself for 2012 footage.

Yeah, he's running for re-election to Terrorist in Chief. All his Hamas and Muzzy friends will vote him in -- as long as Soros and the King of Saudi Arabia approve, of course.

44 posted on 04/28/2009 10:04:50 PM PDT by Type Righter (...flying the Gadsden flag 24/7 until the Usurper is Gone! ..."Don't Tread on ME"...)
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To: tet68

That’s it! I’d bet a whole bucket of chicken and waffles it was either Fidel or Chavez!


45 posted on 04/28/2009 10:04:52 PM PDT by ponygirl
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To: GVnana

Something is really screwy with this story. It would be plausible that AF1 was doing some training type of exercise. Many of these excercises are videotaped from a tailing jet, hence the F16. Oh yeah, we would like to take some great pics while we were over Manhatten. This is even plausible. But they haven’t made these reasonable arguments because they are not true. What is the truth?


46 posted on 04/28/2009 10:06:01 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: GVnana

some speculated it was film for a Spike Lee movie


47 posted on 04/28/2009 10:06:53 PM PDT by GeronL (TYRANNY SENTINEL. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com LIBERTY FICTION at libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

ZERO DISRESPECTS The Military and ZERO DISRESPECTS AMERICA!!:-(
That is Pathetic! and His Ghostwriter and Close Friend, illiam Ayers, Hates America since before 1970 when He Bombed The PENTAGON an Got Away With IT!


48 posted on 04/28/2009 10:10:47 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: proudtobeanamerican1
Why did it need to be a secret?

Because both of the AF1 planes are awesomely important security assets, and giving terrorists a big heads up about where either one of them is going to be in the air at a given time creates too big of risk of one of them being taken out, leaving POTUS with no back-up plane in the event of mechanical or other problems with the first one.

But, plenty of information could have been disseminated to prevent panic, without specifying that one of the planes involved would be an AF1 plane. I suspect this may be where the screw-up occurred -- i.e. somebody high up in DoD put out the word that the involvement of AF1 must be kept an absolute secret, and somebody between that person and the few public officials who got any information at all, misunderstood this directive to mean that entire mission had to be kept an absolute secret.

49 posted on 04/28/2009 10:11:36 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GVnana
In a memo obtained by CBS 2 HD the Federal Aviation Administration's James Johnston said the agency was aware of "the possibility of public concern regarding DOD (Department of Defense) aircraft flying at low altitudes" in an around New York City. But they demanded total secrecy from the NYPD, the Secret Service, the FBI and even the mayor's office and threatened federal sanctions if the secret got out.

This doesn't make sense -- clearly we're still only getting garbled bits and pieces of the story. The FAA isn't in the business of giving a crap about secrecy of DoD flights -- it simply follows orders re DoD flights. Only the DoD would issue a directive requiring secrecy re a planned flight. The "they" referred to in the above paragraph therefore isn't the FAA -- if any party "demanded total secrecy" it would have been DoD (and possibly also the Secret Service, which may be involved in any use of either of the Air Force One planes). The notion that anyone in the FAA "demanded total secrecy . . . from the Secret Service" re an AF1 flight is too ludicrous for words. Anything that emanated from the FAA to that effect was just a DoD directive being passed along.

And the headline is simply false, at least based on what follows. "Possibility of public concern" is a long, long way from mass panic and building evacuations on the scale of the New York Mercantile Exchange and other large financial businesses. "Possibility of public concern" applies every time a fighter jet passes over the city at an altitude that can be detected by a paranoid citizen with a pair of binoculars. It's perfectly reasonable not to announce such things to the public, and to instruct 911 operators to reassure callers that it's "an authorized military flight".

There are many things that random nervous people call 911 over, that don't warrant advance public announcements. There's no evidence (yet, at least) that anyone involved in planning this flight and related communications had a clue that it would result in mass panic and full evacuations of large buildings by sensible people. And THAT is what we should be really worried about. Because either the people planning the flight are incredibly clueless (and thus shouldn't have authority over any aircraft bigger than a remote-controlled toy model airplane), or there was a serious breakdown in communications between the people involved in planning and the people involved in executing an unusual training mission involving an AF1 craft and escorting F-16s (and that's a pretty scary concept too, given that these would be the same people planning and executing "real" missions involving AF1+POTUS and escorting fighter jets).

50 posted on 04/28/2009 10:11:42 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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