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Jon Stewart: Truman Was a War Criminal, Too
Weekly Standard ^ | 4/30/2009 | Michael Goldfarb

Posted on 04/30/2009 1:13:32 PM PDT by mojito

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I guess Sherman and Grant and Patton and MacArthur were war criminals too.
1 posted on 04/30/2009 1:13:32 PM PDT by mojito
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To: All

To the left, every great figure in American history, with the grand exception of Martin Luther King, is a criminal.

That’s how the left views their country.


2 posted on 04/30/2009 1:15:01 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

Stewart- king of the ‘armchair quarterbacks’....


3 posted on 04/30/2009 1:16:15 PM PDT by keep your powder dry
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To: mojito

Oh, gawd.

Hey, John, you’re 50 or so, ask your Dad if he had been a WW2 vet, and facing the invasion of Japan, whether he supported the bombdrops.

One little not so well known secret is many, many Japanese were thankful the war ended, since otherwise, all men and kids were to be used in kamikaze type attacks all over the country against American troops.

The costs would have made the horrendous casualty lists of Hiroshima and Nagasaki look like child’s play.


4 posted on 04/30/2009 1:16:21 PM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: mojito
Look, there are penalties for helping guys who load Jews into box cars bound for ovens. I guarantee you, Stewart, as they were prodding your Jewish ass with a bayonet through the gates of Buchenvald, you'd pray for an atomic bomb just to take those kraut bastards with you to the ninth circle of hell, you jackball.

That's the end of that discussion.

5 posted on 04/30/2009 1:16:48 PM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: mojito
To the left, every great figure in American history, with the grand exception of Martin Luther King, is a criminal.

...and all the sinners saints.

6 posted on 04/30/2009 1:16:54 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: mojito

Just keep repeating this:

John Stewart is a comedian...John Stewart is a comedian...John Stewart is a comedian...


7 posted on 04/30/2009 1:17:16 PM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: mojito

From what I hear, MLK, Jr. was just a womanizer and palagerist.


8 posted on 04/30/2009 1:17:25 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (ON 1-19-09 GAS WAS, ON AVERAGE IN MEMPHIS, $1.43 A GALLON.)
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To: mojito

My late father’s life, and millions of others, were spared because President Truman had the stones to do the right thing.


9 posted on 04/30/2009 1:17:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("The unarmed man is not just defenseless - he is also contemptible." Machiavelli)
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To: mojito

>>war criminals or tyrants or worse.

Hell, don’t forget Woodrow Wilson’s sterling record on civil right and ethnic concerns, not to mention free speech.

German Americans were pretty badly treated, to say the least..


10 posted on 04/30/2009 1:17:56 PM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: mojito

Yes Jon you should thank your lucky stars for these “War Criminals”. They made it possible for you to live in a Country where you can make a living being a Commie Propagandist and liberal butt-boy! (Although if Hitler had won I guess you would be asking what Enchanted him most about the Holocaust?


11 posted on 04/30/2009 1:18:51 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: mojito

When you’re filled with self-loathing and cultural self-hatred for the United States, any incident which demonstrates real or potential wrong-doing by the country or its citizens is considered criminal because it confirms your view of the world.

Washington and his men shot down Hessians at a holiday celebration, I believe. And he’s a slave owner. So the country was a criminal enterprise from its founding.

And so the bullsh*t goes. Sadly, the Jon Stewarts of the world will discover the weary truth that it is easier to tear something down than to build it up.


12 posted on 04/30/2009 1:19:21 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: mojito
To the left, every great figure in American history, with the grand exception of Martin Luther King, is a criminal.

And the Dyke Dollar worked out for 'em real good, too.

Oh, wait.....

13 posted on 04/30/2009 1:19:31 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: mojito

When you’re filled with self-loathing and cultural self-hatred for the United States, any incident which demonstrates real or potential wrong-doing by the country or its citizens is considered criminal because it confirms your view of the world.

Washington and his men shot down Hessians at a holiday celebration, I believe. And he’s a slave owner. So the country was a criminal enterprise from its founding.

And so the bullsh*t goes. Sadly, the Jon Stewarts of the world will discover the weary truth that it is easier to tear something down than to build it up.


14 posted on 04/30/2009 1:20:24 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: mojito

What the likes of Stewart don’t understand is that the US killed far more Japanese in the firebombing campaign that immediately preceded the nuke attacks than in the latter. Furthermore, he does not seem to comprehend that he very likely would not be on Earth to criticize leaders like Truman had he decided to invade the main islands (we did invade Imperial Japanese territory, but Iwo Jima and Okinawa as bad as they were would pale next to the main island) as his father, my father, and many more fathers of Boomers would have been killed there. It would have been history-changing, indeed. Stewart would be well-advised to read some history before spouting off.


15 posted on 04/30/2009 1:20:56 PM PDT by astounded (The democrat party is a clear and present danger to America.)
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To: mojito
I am always offended by the argument against the use of the A Bomb.

I know lots of people who finished that war and who would have been involved with the invasion of Japan if the bomb had not ended that war.

I had the opportunity to see the prep the Japanese had made for the expected invasion and I will promise the killing would have been huge.

16 posted on 04/30/2009 1:22:11 PM PDT by Oldsailor
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To: keep your powder dry

If Stewart somehow were to “see the light” and change his humor, in the same way Dennis Miller did, it would be enormously beneficial. He is the news source of many 30 and younger. At some point it seems that logic could kick in, it has happened to others. So, everybody, let’s pray or visualise or both that this might happen. Desperate times call for desperate measures.


17 posted on 04/30/2009 1:22:51 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: NMEwithin

“John Stewart is a comedian”

Bingo. I think he gets way too much credit.


18 posted on 04/30/2009 1:22:57 PM PDT by y6162
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To: redpoll
Sadly, the Jon Stewarts of the world will discover the weary truth that it is easier to tear something down than to build it up.

No truer words ever said.

19 posted on 04/30/2009 1:23:06 PM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: mojito

So a full-scale assault on the Japanese mainland with hundreds of thousands of American dead, dwarfed by the millions of Japanese who would have killed, how does that rate on your worthless, uneducated, historically ignorant “war criminal” scale?

Why am I even wasting the time to respond to an over-rated nothing like Stewart?


20 posted on 04/30/2009 1:23:11 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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“We thank God that it (the atomic bomb) has come to us, instead of to our enemies; and we pray that HE may guide us to use it in HIS ways and for HIS purpose.” President Truman

LOL!!!

Imagine if W. has spoken like this. The left would have an absolute ATOMIC cow. :)


21 posted on 04/30/2009 1:23:41 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: NMEwithin
John Stewart is a comedian...John Stewart is a comedian...John Stewart is a comedian...

I agree with you, but I can't tell you how many liberals I know who believe they are politically literate because they watch Jon Stewart every night.

His show is completely formulaic and lame. When discussing any issue, he recites the most sympathetic and logical sounding liberal talking points, then takes some out-of-context quote from someone on the right that doesn't make any sense out of context, then he makes a "can you believe it face?" then concludes with a lame punchline. And the twenty-somethings in the crowd go nuts.

Rinse lather repeat. Night after night after night.

22 posted on 04/30/2009 1:24:10 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: jakerobins

>>vAlthough if Hitler had won I guess you would be asking

he wouldn’t have been asking squat. He’s Jewish.


23 posted on 04/30/2009 1:24:11 PM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: jakerobins
Yes Jon you should thank your lucky stars for these “War Criminals”.

It's always easy to sit back and say, "I coulda done it better." Now think about any project you've engaged in, say a home improvement project. When does anything go as planned? It doesn't, and the best project managers are those that can anticipate problems and plan for them. In a hypothetical situation, however, you can imagine that everything goes a smooth as s**t through a goose and you end up the hero at the end with the chick. It's all a grand movie, Hollywood style, to these people. A wink of the eye and a flash of the pearly whites is all that's needed to turn the bad guys into a pool of blubbering goo, not "torture". At least that's what worked in the last movie they saw.

24 posted on 04/30/2009 1:24:53 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: astounded

>>to read some history

We’re Americans, we don’t “do” history.

Just feelings.


25 posted on 04/30/2009 1:25:37 PM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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My bad I don’t keep up with libtards like Jon Stewart.....
Well Jon why don’t you ask someone who survived a death camp how they feel about torture?


26 posted on 04/30/2009 1:26:05 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: mojito
I guess Sherman and Grant and Patton and MacArthur were war criminals too.

I guess you haven't spent much time in the FR Civil War threads. There's a solid contingent of Freepers who will tell you in no uncertain terms that the first two on your list were undoubtedly war criminals.

27 posted on 04/30/2009 1:26:46 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: NMEwithin

Jon Stewart (not his real name) is a metrosexual.


28 posted on 04/30/2009 1:27:31 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: jakerobins

Cliff May shoulda retorted, if Truman had dropped it on Germany, how would that grabya.

I’ve sporadically tuned in to him since the Inauguration; without BushCheneyRumsfeld as foils, the show is lame.


29 posted on 04/30/2009 1:28:43 PM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: mojito

Jon Stewart is a not very funny idiot comedian!!!


30 posted on 04/30/2009 1:29:33 PM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: a fool in paradise
"Jon Stewart (not his real name) is a metrosexual."

HA!!
Or worse.

But that'd be missing the point.
Jon's just bashed a leftist and an old one at that, so he's done his patriotic duty.

Now he can get back to the business of lying about America's righwing.

31 posted on 04/30/2009 1:30:42 PM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: mojito

It is about time somebody asks that snide little prick about his positions. He won’t look so clever if he continues to pop off like this.


32 posted on 04/30/2009 1:30:48 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: mojito

Truman represents the old dead Democrat party of white guys who stood up to communism and supported Israel. It’s quite politically correct to denegrate him.


33 posted on 04/30/2009 1:31:47 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: keep your powder dry

Stewart should be prosecuted for crimes against sanity..


34 posted on 04/30/2009 1:34:20 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: mojito

Maybe it’s a genetic remnant from the Cossack who raped his great grandmother back in the Shtetl. Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz.


35 posted on 04/30/2009 1:36:35 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Coming from a measly little anti-american twerp like Jon Stewart one would consider his comments a compliment. Funny he makes no comment about Stalin, Mussolini or Pol Pot.


36 posted on 04/30/2009 1:40:36 PM PDT by kenmcg (cOMMBYAH)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

***My late father’s life, and millions of others, were spared because President Truman had the stones to do the right thing.***

My dad served in Europe with Patton’s army. After VE day he was sent to the US to train for the invasion of Japan. Truman did the right thing!

Back in 1966 at the Roswell (NM) public library, there was a book on WWII. At the page where the first Atomic Bombs were used someone had written in ink, THUMAN—MURDERER!

Underneath it was another hand written paragraph from another person explaining just why Truman authorized the dropping of the bombs.


37 posted on 04/30/2009 1:42:46 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: mojito

Considering how many Americans would have been killed in an invasion of Japan, NOT using the Atom Bomb would have been a war crime. We killed more Japanese with firebombing than with the atom bomb, but Stewart probably hasn’t read enough history to even be aware of it.


38 posted on 04/30/2009 1:43:52 PM PDT by yazoo (was)
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We killed more Japanese with firebombing than with the atom bomb, but Stewart probably hasn’t read enough history to even be aware of it.

The atom bomb in the end saved even more Japanese lives than American lives, according to the estimates of casualties from a land invasion of Japan.

39 posted on 04/30/2009 1:44:55 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: mojito

Jon Stewart is an idiot!


40 posted on 04/30/2009 1:46:44 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: mojito

If the bomb had not been dropped, I simply wouldn’t be here. My parents never would have met and maybe my father wouldn’t have come home alive. Probably the same for a lot of folks who had a parent or grandparent fighting in the PTO.


41 posted on 04/30/2009 1:47:36 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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Hey Jon! I spent almost ten years and over 700 days on Alert in the missile capsules.

There are men sitting underground right now doing what I did, protecting us as we write.

What do you call us?

You, Jon, are a putz!


42 posted on 04/30/2009 1:49:47 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: mojito

Liberal Guilt 101
`I shouted out,
Who killed the kennedys?
When after all
It was you and me’

John, Mick,
I was on the playground, Wilshire Elementary,
San Antonio, playing tetherball—honest Injun!
TD


43 posted on 04/30/2009 1:50:48 PM PDT by tumblindice (and the worst are filled with passionate intensity)
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To: mojito

I seem to recall the US Army predicted the conquest of the Japanese homeland would cost 1 million US casualties and 10 million Japanese casualties.

Horrible as the atom bomb was, it saved far more lives than it cost. Liberals don’t understand that some wars are justified. The only way to fight a war is to fight hard and fight to win. Going half-assed will just drag it out and cost more lives on both sides.

Japan started the fight, and we finished it.


44 posted on 04/30/2009 1:53:06 PM PDT by kamikaze2000
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To: dead
His show is completely formulaic and lame. When discussing any issue, he recites the most sympathetic and logical sounding liberal talking points, then takes some out-of-context quote from someone on the right that doesn't make any sense out of context, then he makes a "can you believe it face?" then concludes with a lame punchline. And the twenty-somethings in the crowd go nuts.

Wow. That is the best description of his show I have ever read. You nailed it. (PS I'm stealing it for use in bar room conversations. Don't worry; I'll attribute it to some dead guy.)

45 posted on 04/30/2009 1:55:10 PM PDT by OA5599
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To: swarthyguy

The A-bombs taught the Japanese (they were then universally known as Japs) a lesson they have not forgotten to this day.


46 posted on 04/30/2009 1:56:09 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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If the bomb had not gone off my dad would have parachuted into Japan. He survived a lot in the Europeon theater but I don’t think he would have survived the Japanese invasion.
Also I think a lot more Japanese would have died in a land invasion.


47 posted on 04/30/2009 1:58:47 PM PDT by LauraJean (sometimes I win sometimes I donate to the equine benevolent society)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have recently wondered if the liberalization, sissification, whatever you want to call it, of our country, cannot be directly related to the fact that was lost so many men of the caliber of your father, who were willing to sacrifice themselves for their family, their country.

Add to your father’s generation, those who died in Vietnam, WWI, the Civil War, etc. These were men who believed in right and wrong. They believed in taking action against wrong, and putting everything on the line for the sake of a better future. Too many of those men were killed. We are left without their offspring in many cases. How many millions of Americans were never born because these men were killed in war? Makes me wonder what the US would be like if we could have the influence of their legacies.


48 posted on 04/30/2009 1:59:43 PM PDT by villagerjoel ("Income tax is involuntary servitude" - Ron Paul)
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To: astounded
What the likes of Stewart don’t understand is that the US killed far more Japanese in the firebombing campaign that immediately preceded the nuke attacks than in the latter.

That doesn't matter. That the US was the first (and thus far only) nation to use nukes in war, to the Left, places us in an especially odious category.

49 posted on 04/30/2009 2:00:45 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: mojito

MacArthur was a war criminal for being such an arrogant asshat and getting his troops killed.


50 posted on 04/30/2009 2:01:47 PM PDT by misterrob (FUBO----Just say it, Foooooooooooooo Bohhhhhhhhh. Smooth)
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