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Muscle cars live on in new Camaro:
The Washington TImes ^ | 5/1/09 | Jennifer Harper

Posted on 05/01/2009 6:31:44 AM PDT by lakeprincess

Chrysler runs out of gas, Chevy hits the accelerator - on the same day. The 2010 Camaro rolls onto America's roadways as the Detroit giant calls it quits. Oh, the irony.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: auto; camaro; car; muscle
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1 posted on 05/01/2009 6:31:45 AM PDT by lakeprincess
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To: lakeprincess

Ha! Anyone that would buy a Camaro made by government workers is out of their mind.


2 posted on 05/01/2009 6:33:17 AM PDT by brownsfan (Kool aid comes in two new flavors: Hope and Change.)
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To: brownsfan

Yeah I was very much interested in the Camaro until the news of GM being nationalized. Forget it now.


3 posted on 05/01/2009 6:34:40 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: lakeprincess

It's purdy.

4 posted on 05/01/2009 6:34:53 AM PDT by edpc (01010111 01010100 01000110 00111111)
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To: lakeprincess

Saw one this morning. Car-carrier headed into Frankfort, IL.

Very pretty but should be selling for closer to ^half^ the MSRP (if they could).


5 posted on 05/01/2009 6:35:15 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: edpc

It looks Like a Dodge.


6 posted on 05/01/2009 6:35:46 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: edpc

The 2009 Challenger is purtier.


7 posted on 05/01/2009 6:36:10 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: brownsfan
Ha! Anyone that would buy a Camaro made by government workers is out of their mind.

What are you talking about? The government is backing the warranties for all GM products.

8 posted on 05/01/2009 6:36:13 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (We may officially be too stupid to govern ourselves.)
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To: dangerdoc

It does look like a Dodge.


9 posted on 05/01/2009 6:36:53 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Tenacious 1
The government is backing the warranties for all GM products.

Ask a Native American about government "guarantees."

10 posted on 05/01/2009 6:37:26 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: brownsfan

I’m sticking with Ford.


11 posted on 05/01/2009 6:37:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: brownsfan
I agree. Seeing as will all be driving electric powered Obama-mobiles in the future! God I miss real muscle cars... A camaro I always wanted..69 Camaro SS
12 posted on 05/01/2009 6:37:42 AM PDT by jakerobins
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To: cripplecreek

I’m sticking with Honda.


13 posted on 05/01/2009 6:37:51 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Slapshot68

“Yeah I was very much interested in the Camaro until the news of GM being nationalized. Forget it now.”

Yep. I had a Camaro back in the early 70s. I’d have seriously considered dumping my old Vette for one. Until the nationalization.

This is going to be painful as it plays out. The government will offer incentives to buy GM, while taxing imports more. The administration has a big stake in protectionism for GM.

So we all pay more to get good cars, while the quality of GM cars, which was bad to begin with, gets worse. I bought Ford stock, I’m going to buy some more soon.


14 posted on 05/01/2009 6:39:27 AM PDT by brownsfan (Kool aid comes in two new flavors: Hope and Change.)
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To: jakerobins

THAT is what a real Camaro looks like.


15 posted on 05/01/2009 6:40:19 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: lakeprincess

I will not buy another new vehicle from GM ever again. I’ll just either buy a used Pontiac and BMW or buy a new Toyota.


16 posted on 05/01/2009 6:40:21 AM PDT by Roger_Wildcat
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To: dangerdoc; uncitizen

I can see the similarities. The racing stripes and front end give it the appearance of having a four-toothed grin. Think they have a certain demographic in mind?


17 posted on 05/01/2009 6:40:59 AM PDT by edpc (01010111 01010100 01000110 00111111)
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To: lakeprincess
If you like the 2010 Camaro, just wait 'til you see the lines on the 2011 model...

...available in all colors as long as that color is green...

18 posted on 05/01/2009 6:42:18 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: dfwgator

My Lamborghini wil smoke it.

Sticking to Honda, that was good, lol


19 posted on 05/01/2009 6:42:27 AM PDT by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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To: dfwgator

“I’m sticking with Honda.”

A good choice. But, I don’t mind rewarding an American company that’s trying to do things the right way. They turned down government money, when it would have been easy to take it. Ford’s quality is way up, due to the influx of Mazada vehicles.

I won’t need a car for a while, but when I do, I’ll seriously look at Ford first.


20 posted on 05/01/2009 6:42:34 AM PDT by brownsfan (Kool aid comes in two new flavors: Hope and Change.)
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To: edpc

“It’s purdy.”

Mythbusters proved it, and this is another example... you CAN polish a turd.


21 posted on 05/01/2009 6:43:21 AM PDT by brownsfan (Kool aid comes in two new flavors: Hope and Change.)
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To: dfwgator
Ask a Native American about government "guarantees."

Yes, but how about that Social Security deal we got. Think of all the money we are going to get as promised from our government when we retire at 88 years old.

(My SS report says that funding will only support 77% of my "guaranteed benefits.")

22 posted on 05/01/2009 6:43:46 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (We may officially be too stupid to govern ourselves.)
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To: Roger_Wildcat

“I’ll just either buy a used Pontiac ... “

Might want to avoid Pontiac. I had nothing but trouble with my 02 Bonneville.


23 posted on 05/01/2009 6:44:28 AM PDT by brownsfan (Kool aid comes in two new flavors: Hope and Change.)
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To: Tenacious 1; brownsfan
Ha! Anyone that would buy a Camaro made by government workers is out of their mind.

Which is worse; the government owning GM or the UAW, Fiat and the government owning Chrysler?

24 posted on 05/01/2009 6:45:26 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Pontiac

“Which is worse; the government owning GM or the UAW, Fiat and the government owning Chrysler?”

Actually, the UAW was given a piece of GM too.
GM and Chrysler are both terminally wounded, but Chrysler will be first in the ground.


25 posted on 05/01/2009 6:47:25 AM PDT by brownsfan (Kool aid comes in two new flavors: Hope and Change.)
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To: edpc
Think they have a certain demographic in mind?

Oh absolutely. There's a slight similarity, but the distinction that imo makes the Challenger nicer is the smooth lines whereas that Camaro has sharp edges.

I saw an '09 Challenger at a gas station on a road trip. It was orange with black racing stripes. My jaw dropped. There was another guy talking to the owner who took pictures of it. Then my husband went over to ask the guy about it. This guy must be hounded everywhere he goes. Honestly, when i first saw it i thought it was a restored older model. Just freakin' unbelievably gorgeous!

26 posted on 05/01/2009 6:47:27 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: edpc

I have an ‘02 Camaro now with the 200 hp 3.8l V-6; I hear the six in the new one turns out 300 ponies!!!


27 posted on 05/01/2009 6:48:20 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: brownsfan

“I bought Ford stock, I’m going to buy some more soon.”

I just bought Ford stock as well. They do seem to be the healthiest of the three to survive the recession w/o gov’t money.


28 posted on 05/01/2009 6:48:30 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: jakerobins
You know what trumps a 396 Camero ?
29 posted on 05/01/2009 6:51:49 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: brownsfan
GM and Chrysler are both terminally wounded, but Chrysler will be first in the ground.

Now that they are both part of the government they are for all intents and purposes immortal.

These companies will have to be in danger of pulling down the government before the government will let them fail.

30 posted on 05/01/2009 6:52:00 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Chi-townChief
I hear the six in the new one turns out 300 ponies!!!

Not only that, 29 mpg highway for the 6-cylinder.

31 posted on 05/01/2009 6:52:27 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: lakeprincess

It is a sad day. A sweet car but as long as the company is owned by the unions, I will not buy another Chrysler.


32 posted on 05/01/2009 6:52:41 AM PDT by svcw (There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who know binary and those who don't.)
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To: jakerobins
Though a gas hog with the 427, the 69 Camaro is still a very easy car to drive and maintain......now can I get one in a 4-speed? Brakes, tires, gas, battery, oil changes every 3K, air breather, and clutch are about the only maintenance items with a plug & point change every 20K. A man with some basic knowledge and skill can work on that car anytime with a select tool set carried in a one hand tote tool box bar the main suspension parts not including shocks.

Add a six pack, high rise intake, tuned headers, polished and ported heads, 5 angle valve job, stiffer valve springs and aggressive cam, not hard to get 600 hp out of it.

34 posted on 05/01/2009 6:53:51 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Slapshot68

“I just bought Ford stock as well. They do seem to be the healthiest of the three to survive the recession w/o gov’t money.”

I’m not wealthy, and just started messing with my own stocks, (beyond a 401k). I bought $200 of Ford when it was $2.30. I wish I had more “play” money. I felt pretty strongly about Ford’s value at $2.30. Now that it’s over $5, I think it’s still got room to go, but not as fast.

Go Ford.


35 posted on 05/01/2009 6:54:44 AM PDT by brownsfan (Kool aid comes in two new flavors: Hope and Change.)
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To: lakeprincess

Looks like a pimp mobile. The huge wheels, skunk stripes and the acute angles guarantee you’ll start seeing it in the crummier parts of Detroit soon.

Besides, your warranty is backed by Barack Obama.

I owned a 2001 Camaro SS. It looked A LOT better than this.

Ugh.


36 posted on 05/01/2009 6:56:20 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Do your duty in all things." Robert E. Lee)
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To: Slapshot68
Yeah I was very much interested in the Camaro until the news of GM being nationalized. Forget it now.

Me. too.

I fell in love with the 1968 Camaro when I was 14.

At 55, I really considered going for the 2010 Camaro, because it is a reincarnation of the 67-68 body style, even though I hat GM cars, having owned more than I ever should have in my life.

Now, the government has even taken that dream from me.The Bailout Camaro--no thanks.

37 posted on 05/01/2009 6:58:03 AM PDT by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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To: lakeprincess; xzins

Ok, now THAT is the kind of car that says "I'm an American and proud of it".

The US Car Industry was destroyed by CAFE Standards. Americans don't want some sissy 50 mile per gallon rolling death trap. True Americans want a death trap with 400 horsepower that will go 150 miles an hour.

American want a car that says to them "You have to buy this. Even if your children have to starve, you have to buy this car!"

That is the kind of attitude that GM and Ford had in the 50's and 60's and that is the kind of cars they built. But now, because of CAFE Standards, for every muscle car they build, they have to sell a dozen hybrids.

If the government really cared about the US Car industry, they'd let them build the cars that Americans really covet.

38 posted on 05/01/2009 6:58:20 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Somebody stole my tagline)
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To: RexBeach
"I owned a 2001 Camaro SS. It looked A LOT better than this."

I still own this one. I'll stick with it.

39 posted on 05/01/2009 7:00:27 AM PDT by brownsfan (Kool aid comes in two new flavors: Hope and Change.)
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To: edpc

Weird & mean looking car looking for alter ego types/


40 posted on 05/01/2009 7:02:44 AM PDT by Broker (Recondo!)
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To: brownsfan

It looks like a Frankenstein Mobile. Too Big.

Chevy should take the over the Pontiac G8 as the new Impala SS.


41 posted on 05/01/2009 7:04:03 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: edpc
purdy?

or a cartoon?

42 posted on 05/01/2009 7:05:14 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: brownsfan

No, I wouldn’t want a FWD from Pontiac. Just the fun cars like the Firebird, Trans Am, newer GTO, Solstice etc. I can work of those if something breaks.


43 posted on 05/01/2009 7:05:38 AM PDT by Roger_Wildcat
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To: lakeprincess

I’ve got a 68 SS. Very similiar paint to the black and white 69 posted above. 383 stroker, 700r4, flat tappet 292 Comp cam, roller rocker arms, hypereutectic pistons, ported AFR 205 cc heads w/ 185 cc intake runners, hooker headers, 750 holley racing carb, griffin aluminum radiator, MSD, K&N, 4.10 gears w a true 12 bolt posi, on and on. Too much to list. It will run high 11’s but it’s really a street car. I just LOVE pulling it up next to some foreign car with a loud mouth muffler and absolutely stomping on it’s throat.

It’s not a very green car as it will literally spit fuel through the tail pipes when I first fire it up. Got it running a little rich right now, lol.


45 posted on 05/01/2009 7:09:21 AM PDT by JohnC2004
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To: lakeprincess
I have seen the new one in the showroom and am going to the "official" unveiling at the dealer next week. They are getting in 17 of them including the 2SS. I can't wait. I will arrive in this:
46 posted on 05/01/2009 7:12:33 AM PDT by doodad
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To: lakeprincess

I’ll never buy a vehicle from any nationalized American auto company, irregardless of tax incentives down the road, etc.


47 posted on 05/01/2009 7:13:18 AM PDT by webschooner
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To: brownsfan

Now THAT’S a good looking automobile!

Congrats!


48 posted on 05/01/2009 7:17:27 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Do your duty in all things." Robert E. Lee)
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To: lakeprincess

The new ‘10 Camaros are hot. I plan on buying one this summer or fall.


49 posted on 05/01/2009 7:19:06 AM PDT by tc45a
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To: lakeprincess

I owned a 68 Camaro and I liked it. It always felt fairly solid. My sister in law has a 2002 Camaro and it rattles like crazy and just seems cheap compared to the older ones. The exhaust sounds like a fart in a soda can compared to the Mustang.


50 posted on 05/01/2009 7:19:46 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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