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Anti-abortion activist Randall Terry arrested at Notre Dame
WSBT ^ | May 1, 2009 | MARGARET FOSMOE

Posted on 05/01/2009 10:27:28 AM PDT by jaydubya2

SOUTH BEND — Anti-abortion activist Randall Terry was arrested at about 12:20 p.m. Friday on the campus of the University of Notre Dame.

He was part of a demonstration against President Barack Obama’s upcoming appearance at the Catholic university. The protest involved baby carriages holding dolls covered in fake blood.

Terry, who has promised to protest until Obama’s May 17 scheduled appearance, had been issued a no trespass order by Notre Dame.

Security personnel placed Terry into a vehicle and drove him away.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cultureofdisrespect; moralabsolutes; notredame; operationrescue; operationsaveamerica; prolife; randallterry
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1 posted on 05/01/2009 10:27:28 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: NYer

FYI


2 posted on 05/01/2009 10:27:55 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: jaydubya2

This was done for the publicity, of course.
This will make the news, and this will get even more people to turn out in protest.
On the right, NOBODY knows how to generate a large crowd better than Terry.


3 posted on 05/01/2009 10:30:23 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Salvation

FYI


4 posted on 05/01/2009 10:30:48 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: jaydubya2

The murdered is accepted with open arms.

The protester is carried away.


5 posted on 05/01/2009 10:31:13 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: jaydubya2
Every action taken by Fr. Judas Jenkins to suppress dissent will look very heavy handed and un-Catholic. Hopefully this will be another nail in the coffin that holds Fr. Jenkins career and tenure at Notre Dame.
6 posted on 05/01/2009 10:32:15 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
I want someone out there to dig up some LEFTY protest history, at ND!
How did the Dear Father Jenkins deal with anti-Bush, anti-war, anti-military protests on campus?
Where any of THEM ever given “orders” not to “trespass” on University Property?
Where any of the lefty protesters hauled away by the police?
7 posted on 05/01/2009 10:35:48 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Yep. He’s more concerned about his publicity than actual success of his supporters’ goal. :-(


8 posted on 05/01/2009 10:38:25 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: jaydubya2

I must admit, acting like Liberals is no way to advance your cause.


9 posted on 05/01/2009 10:42:55 AM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden's gonna get ya, no matter how far!)
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To: Kansas58

What outsiders declared their intent of going onto campus to protest? I haven’t found the example you’re thinking of.


10 posted on 05/01/2009 10:43:56 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: wastedyears
I must admit, acting like Liberals is no way to advance your cause.

Randall Terry is Randall Terry's cause, and acting like a Liberal is quite in line with it.

11 posted on 05/01/2009 10:44:50 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

My sentiments as well.


12 posted on 05/01/2009 10:50:40 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Gondring

It’s like having Al Sharpton show up on your team.


13 posted on 05/01/2009 10:54:28 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: jaydubya2
Whose mind that believes abortion is a ‘right’ is this going to change.
14 posted on 05/01/2009 11:06:59 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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To: jaydubya2
Terry, who has promised to protest until Obama’s May 17 scheduled appearance, had been issued a no trespass order by Notre Dame.

This strikes me as very stupid on Notre Dame's part. What, a university shutting down free speech and refusing to allow a peaceful protestor to appear on campus?

Randal Terry certainly has perfected the art of being irritating, but would the administration at Notre Dame do this to a leftist protestor, simply for setting foot on campus? I think not.

15 posted on 05/01/2009 11:07:59 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Gondring
The two go together.
I think publicity is what we need.
ND officials need to be embarrassed right now.

There is no “quiet” way to reform the ND leaders responsible for this mess.

16 posted on 05/01/2009 11:10:04 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Gondring

What “outsiders” were asked to leave, once they GOT to ND?

I have no respect for any “University” that does not protect the First Amendment rights of EVERYONE!


17 posted on 05/01/2009 11:11:18 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Just mythoughts

This is a “Catholic” University.

The leaders of ND must be punished.

Terry is wrong sometimes, but his tactics are NECESSARY this time.


18 posted on 05/01/2009 11:12:41 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Cicero
EXACTLY!

Did not Judas Jenkins tell us that bringing Obama to campus would, somehow, encourage DEBATE on life issues?

Now the cowards at ND SHUT DOWN any debate at all!

19 posted on 05/01/2009 11:14:39 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: wastedyears

Actually, you are wrong on that point.

The political right needs its street protesters too.


20 posted on 05/01/2009 11:15:24 AM PDT by Kansas58
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Notre Dame would NEVER order the arrest of a leftist demonstrator. This is instructive: the nation's foremost apostle of the Culture of Death is to be welcomed and honored by ND. But an admittedly pesky pro-life demonstrator is to be harassed, persecuted, imprisoned. How low ND has fallen.
21 posted on 05/01/2009 11:16:05 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Godwin1
Now, this might be enough to get a few Priests, and perhaps a Bishop, arrested next to Terry NEXT time around.

What would the wienies on our side have to say, if THAT happened?

22 posted on 05/01/2009 11:17:35 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: jaydubya2

All this does is up the ante. Support the protesters, all Notre Dame alumni.


23 posted on 05/01/2009 11:18:41 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart.........2012--can't come soon enough.)
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To: Gondring
Randall Terry is Randall Terry's cause, and acting like a Liberal is quite in line with it.

How many times have you been arrested protesting abortion?
24 posted on 05/01/2009 11:19:39 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: Kansas58
Terry is wrong sometimes, but his tactics are NECESSARY this time.

I agree 100%. We've allowed ourselves to be silenced and cowed by the folks who are more outraged by Randall Terry holding bloody baby dolls than by actual babies being dismembered LEGALLY.

Enough is enough. Let the critics go to hell. I won't join them by my silence.
25 posted on 05/01/2009 11:21:53 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: Kansas58

We don’t need a right-wing version of Cindy Sheehan.


26 posted on 05/01/2009 11:26:24 AM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden's gonna get ya, no matter how far!)
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To: Just mythoughts
"Whose mind that believes abortion is a ‘right’ is this going to change."

I've also questioned the usefulness of "shock" propaganda used by some pro-life demonstrators. I find it revolting, but then I've already determined that I'm pro-life, so I don't need any convincing.
27 posted on 05/01/2009 11:29:46 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Kansas58; don-o

Self-ping for later reading.


28 posted on 05/01/2009 11:31:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("I have a mustard seed, and I'm not afraid to use it." ------ attributed to +Benedict XVI)
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To: Gondring

>> Randall Terry is Randall Terry’s cause, and acting like a Liberal is quite in line with it.

Some would argue that abortion is the violent killing of an unborn child. Is Terry’s behavior inappropriate, undignified? Who’s offended, the prenatal dependent awaiting its death in the clinic?


29 posted on 05/01/2009 11:40:39 AM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Mrs. Don-o

read later and perhaps comment when calm


31 posted on 05/01/2009 11:42:20 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
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To: Gondring

Read your own tag line! It’s called standing up for what you belive in, Mr. Brave boy..


32 posted on 05/01/2009 11:47:36 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: Antoninus
How many times have you been arrested protesting abortion?

Never, because it wasn't about me...it was about reducing/stopping abortion.

On the other hand, Randall Terry has taken steps to directly undermine the fight against Roe v. Wade, and I think he has done it so he can keep raising money for himself by these stunts. If we win the battle, he can't keep milking people.

33 posted on 05/01/2009 11:56:40 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
Never, because it wasn't about me...it was about reducing/stopping abortion.

He has his methods, you have yours (or so you say--when comparing you and Randall Terry, I'm only certain that one of you is really anti-abortion).

Question: How does attacking Mr. Terry's methods advance the cause?

Answer: It doesn't. But attacking him is a great way to get pro-lifers arguing with each other.
34 posted on 05/01/2009 11:59:06 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: wastedyears
As long as the GOAL is just, and as long as vandalism and violence are not used, you should “allow” everyone on the right to decide, on our own, how to fight the left.

You do not have to join in every expression of protest or every tactic others employ.

However, Conservatives seem to have an antipathy for TRUE protest.

Get over it.

Civil Disobedience might well be the ONLY thing that keeps us from a very real, very violent, shooting revolution down the road.

There is no reason why you need to chime in when others use forms of expression that YOU, YOURSELF would not use.

Try to be “prochoice” on the subject of civil disobedience, would you?

35 posted on 05/01/2009 12:04:15 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Gondring

I’m sure he makes money off his efforts but unless he’s independently wealthy his choices are pretty slim. He can either make a living off his efforts as a protester and thus spend more time protesting or he can work for a living and protest in his spare time. Since most of us - when asked why we don’t join the picket lines - say something about having to work I’m equally sure we should understand his situation.


36 posted on 05/01/2009 12:05:07 PM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: jaydubya2
He was part of a demonstration against President Barack Obama’s upcoming appearance at the Catholic university. The protest involved baby carriages holding dolls covered in fake blood.

If people are offended seeing dolls covered in fake blood, why aren't they offended by an actual baby bleeding and dying in an abortion?

37 posted on 05/01/2009 12:05:45 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
Read your own tag line! It’s called standing up for what you belive in, Mr. Brave boy..

LOL...what does Randall Terry believe in? He seemed to fight Roe v. Wade and push for the states to decide. Then, when it looked like there might be some success on the horizon (and his gravy train might be in jeopardy), he pushed for greater federal intervention.

I know he's trying to deflect attention from his divorce and his daughter's conversion to Islam and his son coming out as homosexual, etc., but to do it at the cost of the unborn is sick.

BTW, I've belonged to Pro-Life groups and have protested, given pro bono consulting, volunteered, raised funds, etc., for them.

38 posted on 05/01/2009 12:05:58 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I’ve never seen one of them rolled down a street, have you?!?


39 posted on 05/01/2009 12:07:07 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

Those protesting Randall Terry have probably never been involved in a SUCCESSFUL protest.Be nice nice and no one pays attention.


40 posted on 05/01/2009 12:07:55 PM PDT by ardara
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To: jaydubya2

Actually, I prefer the gorgeous, fully intact, ALIVE pictures of babies in the womb.

Some pro aborts actually believe that the ugly, torn up babies are an EXCUSE for abortion, they think the kids were deformed IN THE WOMB! (As dumb as that sounds, it is true!)

Think of it this way: The Nazis treated Jews like dirt, they were unwashed, lived in cramped quarters, kept in ragged clothes -— then the Nazis would say: “See, they are not LIKE us!” -—

We need people to RELATE to the baby in the womb, as they connected and related to the babies in THEIR own lives.

Anyway, though I do believe that the “pretty pictures” are more persuasive, I do NOT think it is MY job to dictate the method of communication that other people use, in this debate.

People do not CHANGE until they feel UNCOMFORTABLE -— Randall Terry and OR make people feel UNCOMFORTABLE, and that, of course, IS THE POINT of any real protest!


41 posted on 05/01/2009 12:10:50 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Antoninus

He is the one who is being divisive. His tactics have failed, whilst winning hearts and minds has shown to succeed.

I guess you prefer those against abortion just go lock-step into failure, rather than debate taking a successful path. Sorry, but some of us think that’s just plain wrong.

If Randall Terry were truly against abortion, he wouldn’t sabotage the efforts against Roe v. Wade, for example. He wouldn’t try to discredit the movement by irresponsible actions.


42 posted on 05/01/2009 12:12:53 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
Randall is not any great wizard when it comes to legislative or political strategy.
I have had heated arguments with him, and many in his organization, over political strategy.

However, on the ND issue, Randall Terry deserves my support.

He deserves the support of all prolifers, in this current battle.

43 posted on 05/01/2009 12:13:19 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: oldfart
I agree!

The right does not WANT anyone to make a living, buy promoting OUR Causes -—

Then we wonder why nobody can afford to support OUR causes, on a full-time basis!

44 posted on 05/01/2009 12:16:14 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
I'll be there for dinner...see you in a few.*






*Note to the illiterate: it's a rhetorical device, not any sort of harassment or intimidation or threat or whatever. Advocating the disrespect of property rights is a leftist push, and since Kansas58 has encouraged such disrespect of property rights, I was merely suggesting that it shouldn't be surprising or unwelcome to Kansas58 if uninvited guests were to show up.
45 posted on 05/01/2009 12:17:42 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Kansas58
Randall is not any great wizard when it comes to legislative or political strategy. I have had heated arguments with him, and many in his organization, over political strategy.

However, on the ND issue, Randall Terry deserves my support.

Fair enough...I respect your support as sincere in support of a common goal of reducing/stopping abortions.

But I disagree with Randall Terry on both strategy and, in this case, tactics.

46 posted on 05/01/2009 12:19:59 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Kansas58

My church has a pro-life display, and among some of the most convincing items are the life size replicas of unborn babies at different ages. My kids pick them up and learn to appreciate life.


47 posted on 05/01/2009 12:21:12 PM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Kansas58

I’m keeping an open mind.


48 posted on 05/01/2009 12:21:42 PM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden's gonna get ya, no matter how far!)
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To: Gondring

There is no reason why any one of us needs to “decide” how to fight this battle, on the front lines.

Each of us must do what we are CALLED to do.

I know for a fact that Randal Terry and Operation Rescue are responsible for turning away thousands, nationwide, from the gates of the abortion clinics.

Literally thousands of kids are alive today, due DIRECTLY to his efforts.

Again, OR and Randall are OFTEN wrong on the legislative and political strategy front, but on the ND issue, he deserves our support.


49 posted on 05/01/2009 12:21:58 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: ardara
Those protesting Randall Terry have probably never been involved in a SUCCESSFUL protest.Be nice nice and no one pays attention.

Actually, I have converted former pro-abortion-choice protestors into joining and volunteering for a pro-life group.

And it wasn't my stunning good looks that did it...it was the rational approach and conveying of facts to replace falsehoods.

50 posted on 05/01/2009 12:23:37 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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