Skip to comments.Uniformed Iraqi kills US soldiers
Posted on 05/02/2009 2:18:21 PM PDT by SolidWood
A man wearing an Iraqi army uniform has shot dead two US soldiers and injured three others in a military base south of the northern city of Mosul.
The US army said the man was also killed in the incident but gave little information about the attack.
But Iraqi military reports said he was a soldier also working as an Imam for at a mosque on the base.
No motive was given for the attack but Mosul is seen as the last remaining urban stronghold of al-Qaeda in Iraq.
The US army said it had received reports of "small arms fire" in Hamam al-Alil, 20 km (13 miles) south of Mosul.
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Harry Reid is smirking right now thinking......the war, is lost
This man in a god-suit is going to get a lot more people killed before all is said and done!! :*(
Prayers for the soldiers’ family and friends!
He was a IMAM at a MOSQUE.
a mosque on the base
No further explanation is necessary.
Frog, meet scorpion.
Prayers up for the families of these fallen heroes, and for the three who were injured.
Why on earth does anyone honestly think, after studying and understanding the evil that Islam is and has been for 1,400 years that they will become enlightened and seek freedom and democracy when their very religion doesn’t even allow it. My greatest sadness is that we’ve lost over 4,000 red-blooded, beautiful American soldiers to save a people who in all probability hate them now and forever. What a tragic, sad and sorrowful waste. My prayers go out to those families and their loss and the eventual return of the balance of American soldiers. We’ll need them here when all hell breaks loose and the imports of mohammedism and our south of the border invaders start acting up. It’s only a matter of time. The greatest tragedy is that our elected officials want to destroy America and the American people have yet to stand up, organized, to fight back. When, I ask, when?
I never thought I would ever say these words. BRING THE TROOPS HOME
Some can’t “stand up” until they “wake up”.
Others won’t stand up because they feel alone, isolated, and afraid.
Both groups are being victimized by lying spiritual forces that specialize in deception & fear.
Hello Mr. Anti-war protester from 2006. It's now 2009. Your side lost. Iraqis joined with the coalition forces against your side (al-qaeda). Iraq is now a democratic ally of the U.S. Don't worry though. I know of a place where you can join like minded people. It's called the democratic underground. There you can chat with others who pretend that the U.S. lost and that Iraq is a failure. It will be great fun for you.
That's good so far, and in all caps even. Now you need to declare that our operations in Iraq are a lost cause. Here's a picture for inspiration:
Are you surprised? I think this is the 7-8 time, unfortunately, this has happened. And wont be the last
As we continue to train Iraqi soldiers, there will be one (or two) that will pull a gun on our soldiers when their backs are turned.
I still believe those four snipers killed on that roof top were also setup by an inside Iraqi Defense soldier
No deaths - no reports..., nothing to be gained by talking about it
Two deaths - in depth reports..., we must take this crime wave serious for it’s dire impliations
In a nation with any morals at all, the media would be brought up on charges of sedition.
Thanks to this stupid so-called president, every one of our troops has a bullseye on his back, including my son.
I hate this man.
We must continue to Pray for their safety. Yes the man in the White House has changed the whole scope of the War. I know they are aware of that also. God grant us Wisdom in the coming months.
He is a Muslim. Do we REALLY need to look further for a motive?
If I read history? Typical condescension I expect from the anti-war crowd.
I have personally attended the funeral...
You have no credibility with me. Your claims of personal stories as a substitute to valid counter arguments have no meaning to me.
I never said the U.S. lost
I must have confused you with the defeatist who claimed that our efforts in Iraq are a 'tragic, sad and sorrowful waste'. It must have just been some guy who happens to have an identical screen name as yourself. And speaking of studying history, here are some words you may want to ponder:
"Some skeptics of democracy assert that the traditions of Islam are inhospitable to the representative government. This "cultural condescension," as Ronald Reagan termed it, has a long history. After the Japanese surrender in 1945, a so-called Japan expert asserted that democracy in that former empire would "never work." Another observer declared the prospects for democracy in post-Hitler Germany are, and I quote, "most uncertain at best" -- he made that claim in 1957. Seventy-four years ago, The Sunday London Times declared nine-tenths of the population of India to be "illiterates not caring a fig for politics." Yet when Indian democracy was imperiled in the 1970s, the Indian people showed their commitment to liberty in a national referendum that saved their form of government. Time after time, observers have questioned whether this country, or that people, or this group, are "ready" for democracy -- as if freedom were a prize you win for meeting our own Western standards of progress. In fact, the daily work of democracy itself is the path of progress. It teaches cooperation, the free exchange of ideas, and the peaceful resolution of differences. As men and women are showing, from Bangladesh to Botswana, to Mongolia, it is the practice of democracy that makes a nation ready for democracy, and every nation can start on this path." - George W. Bush 2003
"We must be staunch in our conviction that freedom is not the sole prerogative of a lucky few but the inalienable and universal right of all human beings. So states the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which, among other things, guarantees free elections. The objective I propose is quite simple to state: to foster the infrastructure of democracy, the system of a free press, unions, political parties, universities, which allows a people to choose their own way to develop their own culture, to reconcile their own differences through peaceful means. This is not cultural imperialism; it is providing the means for genuine self-determination and protection for diversity. Democracy already flourishes in countries with very different cultures and historical experiences. It would be cultural condescension, or worse, to say that any people prefer dictatorship to democracy. Who would voluntarily choose not to have the right to vote, decide to purchase government propaganda handouts instead of independent newspapers, prefer government to worker-controlled unions, opt for land to be owned by the state instead of those who till it, want government repression of religious liberty, a single political party instead of a free choice, a rigid cultural orthodoxy instead of democratic tolerance and diversity." - Ronald Reagan 1982
The U.S. has prevailed in Iraq despite the treason of the Democrats. Now the Socialist Obama has announced that the U.S. will abandon Iraq. Why we think it’s important to keep troops in Germany, South Korea, Afghanistan, etc., but not in Iraq is puzzling. Could it be that Obama wants it to unravel, so he can later claim that President Bush failed?
After we leave Iraq, the terrorists supported by Iran will reverse the progress we have made. The lives and blood of our soldiers killed and wounded will be immorally wasted, yet again. Obama will be the cause.
I wasn’t attempting condescension; you avoided my indirect query as to whether you have studied islam and it’s practice. The Koran and it’s operating system, Sharia Law, are a combined theological, political, social and economic system that doesn’t recognize democracy as a legitimate form of government. The Koran’s words are, in islam’s belief, the literal word of God, and cannot change. Period. Any interpretation, or subsequent revelation, are false. The imams who control the religion are like marxist or nazi fanatics, if a break in this faulty logic occurs, the whole system crashes, and they lose total power, hence their actions. It is unlike any other religion currently in practice today, given it’s longevity. Throughout history, it has survived and prospered because of it’s adherence to strictness and its practice of violence and subjugation of believers and non-believers. The fact that muslims in europe are attempting to get Sharia law instituted as part of the legal operating system there proves my point. They will attempt to do the same here as everywhere else. They probe, continually probe, seeking weakness.
As for seeking credibility with you, not a concern, I’ll let time prove my case, whether I’m right or wrong, and if wrong, I will accept it. As for my personal stories, I was not attempting a substitute for counter argument; just providing background, like Buckley used to do regarding his guests on Firing Line.
As for calling me a defeatest, better to call me a skeptic. I have yet to be convinced long-term (anything more than 10 or 20 years) that this process will prove to be a success. I would accept defeat in my argument after the test period is past, not now. I suppose you could argue that I’ve jumped the gun and felt this attempt to establish democracy in the Middle East at the cost of American lives was a waste, and hence I’m a defeatest. If you collapse the time period, then perhaps that label would fit. But only time tells an outcome correctly. I was a boy during the Viet Nam war and thought for sure we would win; what happened? Plenty, but the worst part was the defeat of the South Vietnam’s government at the hands of our own democratically elected government who decided to shut off military aid shortly after we vacated the very country who’s democratically elected government we swore to support, at the cost of 58,000 American lives. I sense the same thing with this new administration.
George Bush’s analysis of history regarding WWII and it’s aftermath, which you correctly quoted, rings true. The free West was highly skeptical of establishing democracy in Germany and Japan during our occupation, which we accomplished after totally destroying the epicenter of their societies, replacing them with like minded peoples to encourage democratic freedoms. Iraq and Afghanistan, will not be so easily done, although I uneasily applauded the effort, at least early on. These countries belief systems are not of their own making, but eminate from Mecca. You can establish a western style system, but her enemies will wait and seek to destroy it. As for Ronald Reagan’s words, also great words to ponder, and probably the greatest U.S President in the 20th Century. Time will tell. By the way, I voted for Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush and would do so again.
Lastly, just because you create a democratic form of government, doesn’t mean it will last. Look at Weimar Germany. Look at Viet Nam. It requires eternal vigilance on the part of the electorate and the people, neither of which can take their eyes off the system, or each other. Democracy takes a lot of effort to create and maintain, and a lot of people the world over are either ignorant (or kept that way), lazy (as long as they get 3 squares a day and place to lay their head, they don’t care) or don’t have, or can’t have, a stake in it to pursue those freedoms. They simply subsist and survive. And to put your life at risk to change that system, most human beings aren’t willing to do so. That takes an extraordinary type of people, and I don’t think they exist in the Middle East.
“The lives and blood of our soldiers killed and wounded will be immorally wasted, yet again. Obama will be the cause.”
And the MSM will aggressively — and successfully — pin it all on Bush.
I’ve come to believe we’d been better off simply taking out Saddam, but keeping the Baathists in power. Wiping out the political and military infrastructure was a major error.
his page reads “I am not a troll”; clearly there have been these “issues” before
This entire Iraqi operation was doomed when we allowed them to mandate in their little purple finger Iraqi Constitution that “NO LAW SHALL CONTRADICT ISLAM” and “ISLAM IS THE OFFICIAL RELIGION”.
We should have left after that.
We are still infidels in their eyes.
Nice link to moslem wife beating vs the Koran