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Boy, 5, forced into adoption with gay couple pleads: 'We want to stay with our gran and grandad'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk ^ | January 2009 | By Jonathan Brocklebank and Michael Seamark

Posted on 05/02/2009 8:21:28 PM PDT by Maelstorm

The mother of two children who are being adopted by gay men even though their grandparents want to care for them wept yesterday as she told of her final meeting with her son and daughter.

‘I told them, “Listen, Mummy is not going to see you for a while”,’ she said. Her son replied: ‘But Mummy, I want to come and stay with you and Granny and Grandad.’

Their grandparents spent two years fighting for the right to care for the children, whose 26-year-old mother is a recovering heroin addict. She desperately wanted her parents to look after them.

But social workers said their ages – he is 59 and she is 46 – and their health – he has angina and she is diabetic – ruled them out.

The mother told the Mail that she had been ordered to say her goodbyes to the children last August during a trip to Edinburgh Zoo. ‘They told me not to cry and be strong so as not to upset the children,’ she said. ‘How can you tell a mother that when she’s never going to see her children again?

She voiced her anger at the decision to allow her son and daughter to be fostered by a homosexual couple.

‘I did not under any circumstances want my children to be placed with gay men. I wanted them to have a mum and a dad.

‘They can’t be telling me that, within a 60-mile radius, the only people they could find to look after my children were two men.

‘I’ve got nothing against gay people. I’ve got gay friends, but children need a mum and a dad, not a dad and another dad.

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To: KarenMarie

Thanks for the info KarenMarie. The world has gone mad.


41 posted on 05/02/2009 9:06:37 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Trust is something earned.)
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To: Quix

As I read the good book he says that of those who would cause a child to sin ( and doing this qualifies ) it would be better for them to have a stone round their neck and be drowned then what he has in store for them.

All I can do is pray for the poor children. And read Psalm 58 last two verses especially regarding the forces that have done this to the children.


42 posted on 05/02/2009 9:12:08 PM PDT by lucias_clay (Its times like this I'm glad I'm a whig.)
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To: Prodigal Son

My best friend’s sister about 10 years ago had 2 small children and became addicted to cocaine with her husband who died of an OD.

She signed away rights to her parents as she got herself together got off the drugs and such and then stayed with them and her kids while she went to school and got a paralegal degree.

Now 10 years later she is remarried the kids are 16 and 14 and she has 2 with her 2nd husband who is raising the first 2 like his own.

It scares me to think that if she lived in Britian today in the same situation her kids would have been taken away by the Nazi social workers to be given to a state approved home because at the time her father had had a heart attack and her mother had some health issues.

(by the way taking care of the grandkids inspired her dad to lose 75 pounds and her mom to get into shape and they are alive and kicking at 73 and 71)


43 posted on 05/02/2009 9:13:20 PM PDT by rexgrossmansonlyfan (I got it bad. I live in the state Obama was elected to the Senate from IN HILLARYS HOMETOWN!)
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To: Maelstorm
Disgusting-and will be happening in the US soon.

What the mom, grandparents, and children, are learning; is that they don't count.

The children (all children), are property of the state, and will go where the state says they should go- period.

44 posted on 05/02/2009 9:14:10 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Ask His forgiveness. Don't wait.)
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To: Dallas59

F[___] sickening.


45 posted on 05/02/2009 9:14:59 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: lucias_clay

INDEED.

THANKS.


46 posted on 05/02/2009 9:17:19 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: rexgrossmansonlyfan

Great narrative.

Thanks.

Encouraging.


47 posted on 05/02/2009 9:18:27 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Maelstorm
IIRC about one-third of people over 50 have an issue already with either diabetes or heart trouble.

Does this mean that CPS would step in to terminate parental custody based on the health of the parents? Scary!

Found while googling:

The Adoption of an Oppressive Law

So McClintock was absolutely right to characterize same-sex adoption placements as a social experiment, with the most vulnerable of children used as guinea-pigs. It is now clear that the DCA is not only happy for the most vulnerable of children to be used in this way – it insists upon it. Anyone who objects cannot serve on adoption panels. There is thus no possibility whatever of conscientious objection.

48 posted on 05/02/2009 9:25:16 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Maelstorm

In Britain it is the Labour Party, in the US it is the Democratic Party. Same difference, just an ocean in between. The far out leftist ideas are generated on one side of the Atlantic or the other and then passed to the other western nations. This is an anti-God ideology that is being spread throughout the western world.

The Labour Party, Democratic Party and other left parties in other countries are the incubators of all of the far left ideas. They conceive these ideas and then they put them into practice through the law.

Values count, it isn’t just about taxes and money. You northeast Republicans, take a good look at this and see the future.


49 posted on 05/02/2009 9:27:46 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Maelstorm
The lesson here is simple. Be a good compliant citizen and you get walked on all over. Organize into an angry, violent identity group, and you get your way. Muslims practice this. Blacks practice this. Homosexuals practice this. Everybody, but the whites practice this. I never hear the English taking Muslim children and handing them over to Jews, Christians, homos. I bet they would go out of their way to make sure a Muslim child got placed in a Muslim home. I haven't heard of a Child of a lesbian being taken and place in a Christian home. It's not going to change until the ordinary citizen organizes and fights these identity groups.
50 posted on 05/02/2009 9:32:01 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: LukeL

This is the UK we are chatting about. There the national health service has a 6 year wait for life saving surgery.

His angina may kill Grandfather before the doctors get off the golf course long enough to get to him. And why should they? Their pay is exactly the same if they treat him or not, if he lives or dies.


51 posted on 05/02/2009 9:33:25 PM PDT by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Rather a lot of whites are in the angry violent mobs (gay, muslim) that you mentioned.


52 posted on 05/02/2009 9:34:23 PM PDT by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: Pajamajan
Disgusting-and will be happening in the US soon. What the mom, grandparents, and children, are learning; is that they don't count. The children (all children), are property of the state, and will go where the state says they should go- period.

Mom should be given a reasonable but strict time line to get her act together. However if during that time frame mom continues behavior harmful to the kids and makes no effort to change then terminate her rights and allow family to adopt first. As far as this article goes? Disabled persons even disabled grandparents, aunts and uncles, can raise kids. The kids need stability and love.

Now for the second part. The grandparents. There is no harder thing to do than take on kids from family members especially when the state takes themm into custody & mom is hostile and non compliant. You get grief from all sides. The parents come after you. The state Children's Services even though they took the kids into custody think Mommy's walk on water, and courts refuse to uphold their own orders and requirements.

All to often the family taking care of the kids will come under legal attack from the parents. In states like Tennessee you will get no help when they do so. If parents threaten and harass you and mistreat the kids over the phone and even encourage them to act out Children's Services does nothing nor does the courts. If you on the other hand show any displeasure with the mother even if it is your own son or daughter who lost the kids you are raising the court and Children's Services will remove them from you. The fact the kids are stable and doing OK means nothing. The fact you get them help above and beyond what anyone in the faster care system would do otherwise means nothing. If a kid is in serious trouble and mommy is encouraging or enabling the childs problems and you try to stop her you can't do that either.

In some states it's all about Mommy reunification even in abuse cases and the needs of the kids as such is a non issue. Did I mention the ones who write the foster care guidelines often have no children? Or that many of the caseworkers are fresh out of college and not mature enough or experienced enough to deal with the issues they handle?

53 posted on 05/02/2009 9:40:27 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgement? Which one say ye?)
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To: Rastus

“We can’t find any good heterosexual parents, even though gays are 2% of the population and only a small percentage of them even want to adopt?”

The percentage of gay men who are in committed, monogamous relationships is far, far, far lower than that of the heterosexual community, as well.

Monogamy and homosexuality just don’t mix. I’ve seen far too much evidence to the contrary to believe anything else.

It’s clearly evident that both sexes provide special skills towards raising a child—usually one better than the other. It’s also clear that the human race was designed to function in male-female pairings. How we’ve flown over the blatantly obvious for a mad dash towards selfish and non-sensical consumerism is beyond me.

There are lines to adopt children. It shouldn’t be an issue to find a male-female pairing. At all.


54 posted on 05/02/2009 10:10:39 PM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: Maelstorm

Is one of the gay men, the bio-Dad?

There is only one person to blame for this, Mommy just valued heroin more than she did her children. So, Mommy is an unfit mother - she can’t dump them on her parents because of health issues. So, do they go to an orphanage, or do they go where they are wanted, will be provided for, will be parents involved - or do we make them wards of the state?

I don’t see where the judge had a whole lot of choice in this matter - and I think the article is missing some KEY factors .... but hey, what do facts matter when they can leave out some key factors and get some emotions fired up?


55 posted on 05/02/2009 10:15:47 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Maelstorm

My own take is s lot of bureaucrats are misfits who are bored sadistic and evil. They get their rocks off tormenting normal people such as these grandparents


56 posted on 05/02/2009 10:23:36 PM PDT by dennisw (Your action becomes your habit. Your habit becomes your character, that becomes your destiny)
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To: Hodar

The health issues are BS. She can in fact dump her kids on her loving parents but evil bureaucrats obstructed this


57 posted on 05/02/2009 10:25:18 PM PDT by dennisw (Your action becomes your habit. Your habit becomes your character, that becomes your destiny)
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To: expatpat

“Well, how are gays going to “reproduce”, other than by seducing other people’s kids?”

Yes and they are infiltrating schools at lower and lower grades. Here’s a paraphrase of how the propaganda works in elementary schools:
“Do you like to play with boys or girls,” they ask the little boys or ask them to think about the question and read aloud books favorable to homosexuality. “Well, if you prefer to have play dates with Johnny than Susy, then there is a very good chance you are gay. Go tell your teachers and your parents right away. Say it out loud to everyone you meet. It’s called “coming out of the closet. Do it right now, so people will know who you are and no one will try to force you to like girls.”

Child abuse and societal abuse of the worse sort is perpetrated by homosexual pariahs. They fought to make the word “diversity” sacrosanct in schools, so they could use it as cover for their propaganda.


58 posted on 05/02/2009 10:26:10 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: dennisw

Is one of the gay guys the bio-dad?

The article doesn’t say anything about that. The fact is that a Dad or a Mom have first dibs on the kids; then the grandparents. If bio-Dad is gay - who’s fault is that? Did Mommy magically get pregnant? She CHOSE who she was going to sleep with, she also chose to inject drugs into her veins. Was she so stupid, as to not know that illegal narcotics were addictive, or illegal, or that they could have legal ramifications? She brought this travesty on herself.

Instead of getting all wound up in an emotional ball - look at the facts. First off, Mom brought this entire mess on without any help. I dare say that she was warned about this very event long before it occurred. Second, is bio-Dad one of the gay couple? If so, as the Dad, his claim to his children is solid, legal and ‘should’ be supported.


59 posted on 05/02/2009 10:34:59 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Maelstorm

Would someone be “ruled out” or have their children taken away from them if they had AIDS or were HIV positive?
Doubtful... that wouldn’t be politically correct.


60 posted on 05/02/2009 10:35:11 PM PDT by PeanutbutterandJellybean
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