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Guess how DHS defines who is a terrorist now?
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | May 2, 2009 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 05/03/2009 3:58:42 AM PDT by Man50D

Two weeks before the U.S. Department of Homeland Security penned its controversial report warning against "right-wing extremists" in the United States, it generated a memo defining dozens of additional groups – animal rights activists, black separatists, tax protesters, even worshippers of the Norse god Odin – as potential "threats."

Though the "Domestic Extremism Lexicon" was reportedly rescinded almost immediately, Benjamin Sarlin of The Daily Beast recently obtained and published online a copy of the unclassified memo, dated March 26, 2009.

While many of the groups listed in the lexicon – such as Aryan prison gangs and neo-Nazis – may indeed be widely considered extremists, others will likely take offense at being described as a potential "threat."

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1 posted on 05/03/2009 3:58:42 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D
14 weeks. the kenyan commie has been president 14 weeks.
2 posted on 05/03/2009 4:02:33 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: Man50D

I like being a threat.


3 posted on 05/03/2009 4:06:37 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Man50D

If you wanted to ruin a nation, and you suddenly found yourself with all the power of that nation at your command, how would you do it?

I think we’re watching part of that now.


4 posted on 05/03/2009 4:09:28 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Remember, remember, the Fourth of November, the Socialist treason and plot...)
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To: Old Sarge

at the end launch the nukes


5 posted on 05/03/2009 4:12:06 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Man50D

...its easy..anybody who isn’nt on the big O’s donor list...sheesh...


6 posted on 05/03/2009 4:13:33 AM PDT by mo
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To: Old Sarge
"If you wanted to ruin a nation, and you suddenly found yourself with all the power of that nation at your command, how would you do it?"

1) screw up it's banking & finance

2) fill as many key positions with your people as possible

3) encourage people that hate the country to move there, the more dangerous the better (eg chinese gitmo terrorists)

4) make sure all secrets get to Chinese/Russian hands

5) demonize and use the state apparatus against anyone who complains

7 posted on 05/03/2009 4:16:45 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: Man50D

Apparently obama is counting on one thing...That the military will defend him no matter what...


8 posted on 05/03/2009 4:19:01 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Old Sarge
"If you wanted to ruin a nation, and you suddenly found yourself with all the power of that nation at your command, how would you do it?

I think we’re watching part of that now."

Yup!!!! Ain't none of it "accidental", or "unintended".

I especially like how he "plans" to move the majority of our armed forces to within striking distance of a rogue nuke armed islame-0 fascist regime! I would get banned for expressing how I feel about them!

Thank You Satan 1:50

9 posted on 05/03/2009 4:21:39 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (<P><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajsov1M4h50">Yes we can, Thank You Satan 1:50</a>)
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To: Iscool
"Apparently obama is counting on one thing...That the military will defend him no matter what..."

Very dangerous assumption. Ask Bill Clinton how close he came to being removed.

10 posted on 05/03/2009 4:22:35 AM PDT by TommyDale (National Crime Victims' Rights Week: April 26 - May 2, 2009)
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To: Man50D


11 posted on 05/03/2009 4:26:50 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Man50D

Translation of the DHS memo: “We, the New World Order, sincerely invite all opponents of our brazenly Kenyan-born Communist Muslim President, to stick your heads up, that we may chop them off!”.


12 posted on 05/03/2009 4:27:45 AM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - I Tim 2:5)
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To: Diogenesis

Thank you for the explanation of Islamism. A picture is worth a thousand words!


13 posted on 05/03/2009 4:31:35 AM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - I Tim 2:5)
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To: Man50D

14 posted on 05/03/2009 4:35:02 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( AR2, Overdue! = American Revolution II...Overdue.)
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To: Man50D

When Harry Potter fans are placed on the threats list they have gone to far in my book.


15 posted on 05/03/2009 4:40:39 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: Man50D

tax protesters,

PROUD to be a RIGHT WING EXTREMIST.


16 posted on 05/03/2009 4:48:05 AM PDT by bikerman (Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.)
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To: Man50D

The ultimate goal of every patriotic American should be to get on a DHS watch list.


17 posted on 05/03/2009 4:50:39 AM PDT by Bryanw92
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To: Man50D

You cannot have organs of internal security without
an internal threat. In order to justify their existance
they must specify and apprehend enemies of the state.
This gives the lie to all the democrat handwringing
about “wiretapping of innocent american jihadists”.

This sort of use of the internal security organs against
possible opposition is totally Stalinist. What we have here
is a “nonobjective man wielding total power”.
Our nightmare is just beginning.


18 posted on 05/03/2009 4:51:16 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Man50D

Jeez, virtually every belief, race etc is listed in there

left, right, white, black, jewish....


19 posted on 05/03/2009 4:52:40 AM PDT by birg
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To: mo
"...its easy..anybody who isn’nt on the big O’s donor list...sheesh..."

Sadly, I think you are correct.

20 posted on 05/03/2009 4:54:05 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Markets and Marxists Don't Mix! Smile you're on Janet's Candid Camera!)
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To: P8riot

Only people who have something to worry about consider me a threat.


21 posted on 05/03/2009 4:59:20 AM PDT by Tainan (Where's my FOF Indicator?)
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To: Man50D
They are highly critical of the U.S. Government's response to illegal immigration and oppose government programs that are designed to extend 'rights' to illegal aliens, such as issuing driver's licenses or national identification cards and providing in-state tuition, medical benefits, or public education."

Oh, so there's degrees of opposition in not following a law? Sort of like just a little bit pregnant?

22 posted on 05/03/2009 5:03:23 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Man50D; chuck_the_tv_out; P8riot; Old Sarge; Steve Van Doorn; mo; Iscool; rawcatslyentist; ...
Interesting the definitions used in this "lexicon"
Leftwing Extremism A movement of groups or individuals that embraces anticapitalist, Communist, or Socialist doctrines and seeks to bring about change through violent revolution rather than through established political processes. The term also refers to leftwing, single-issue extremist movements that are dedicated to causes such as environmentalism, opposition to war, and the rights of animals.
Rightwing Extremism A movement of rightwing groups or individuals who can be broadly divided into those who are primarily hate-oriented, and those who are mainly antigovernment and reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority. This term also may refer to rightwing extremist movements that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.

You will note the differences:

Words have meaning folks...

23 posted on 05/03/2009 5:09:00 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Iscool

“...no matter what.” That’s the kicker. When push comes to shove, the US Armed Forces are not going to line up behind to some Phony Crackpot Kenyan Usurper. Especialy one who’s major goal is to invalidate the Constitution and destroy this country.

I’ll bet money on that. The tide is already turning on O’Bummer.

He’s in deep doo doo and he knows it. I’ll give him 18 more months, from today, at the outside.

The demonratz/demihogs just won’t be able to pull it off. The longer this lasts the more drastic he and his syncophats will become. When they start to disintergrate they will become even more frenetic in their attempts to make this a one-party nation.

O’Bummer has at least one major fault; his personality. He’s more the Pee Wee Herman personality than the Joseph Stalin or Genghis Khan type.

They’re all a bunch of cowboy ballerinas; can’t wait to shoot themselves in the foot.


24 posted on 05/03/2009 5:09:27 AM PDT by .44 Special (Táimid Buarch)
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To: basil

Ping


25 posted on 05/03/2009 5:11:20 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Man50D
anarchist extremism

A movement of groups or individuals who advocate a society devoid of government structure or ownership of individual property. Many embrace some of the radical philosophical components of anticapitalist, antiglobalization, communist, socialist, and other movements. Anarchist extremists advocate changing government and society through revolutionary violence.

So, by this definition the Foundesr of the United States would have been on the list. Although they probably DO see our Founders as extremists.

And, ironies of ironies, so would the current administration for its espousal of " of the radical philosophical components of anticapitalist, antiglobalization, communist, socialist, and other movements"

I bet they don't see it that way though.

26 posted on 05/03/2009 5:21:20 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: .44 Special

I hope you’re right...I assume a large portion of the military doesn’t do politics and will do what they are told...I hope the ones doing the tellin’ got it figured out...


27 posted on 05/03/2009 5:24:53 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: markomalley

>>Words have meaning folks...

Yes they do. But you can take the power away from those words. When a liberal calls me an “extremist”, I just tell her “Hell yeah!” and explain that when a marxist calls me an extremist, that means I’m doing something right.

That’s what these DHS memos tell me. We are scaring them, so they are resorting to name-calling. If we continue, they will escalate to “name-calling in a shrill voice” and eventually “name-calling in a shrill voice with frantic finger pointing.”


28 posted on 05/03/2009 5:25:11 AM PDT by Bryanw92
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To: Man50D

Why not simplify that list: A terrorist is anyone who does not worship 0bama.


29 posted on 05/03/2009 5:26:49 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot child is in charge!)
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To: Man50D
GOOD, the Government should fear We the People!!
30 posted on 05/03/2009 5:29:32 AM PDT by DTogo (Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
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To: Man50D

I proudly considered myself a threat to Marxists for the twenty years I wore my Army uniform. I would like to think I’m just as much a threat as I ever was.


31 posted on 05/03/2009 5:31:31 AM PDT by Feckless (No Birth Certificate... No Peace)
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To: bgill
Oh, so there's degrees of opposition in not following a law? Sort of like just a little bit pregnant?

I've read just about all the definitions. It looks to me as if anyone can fall under any one of the definitions. It's so broad that unless you sit home and never say a word against the govt. you will be on the list.

32 posted on 05/03/2009 5:33:48 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: raybbr

The Founders were certainly extremists and certainly on the 18th century DHS list. The would have all been hung as traitors had the war turned out differently.
barbra ann


33 posted on 05/03/2009 5:33:53 AM PDT by barb-tex (Republic of Texas will include all of the Confederacy, except Maybe VA.)
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To: Man50D

Who does this department consider not to be a threat?


34 posted on 05/03/2009 5:34:50 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Bryanw92
When a liberal calls me an “extremist”, I just tell her “Hell yeah!” and explain that when a marxist calls me an extremist, that means I’m doing something right.

bumper-sticker-screen

35 posted on 05/03/2009 5:40:54 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Man50D

additional groups – animal rights activists, black separatists, tax protesters, even worshippers of the Norse god Odin,bird watchers,pontiac owners,... – as potential “threats.” the DHS is getting a little spooky.


36 posted on 05/03/2009 5:40:58 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: raybbr
It's so broad that unless you sit home and never say a word against the govt. you will be on the list.

And that's the goal!

37 posted on 05/03/2009 5:41:49 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: freekitty
Who does this department consider not to be a threat?

Those who engage in heel licking the One fervently.
38 posted on 05/03/2009 5:50:37 AM PDT by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: markomalley
- From "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand:


[Rearden] "But, after all, I did break one of your laws."

[Dr. Ferris] "Well, what do you think they're for?"

Dr. Ferris did not notice the sudden look on Rearden's face, the look of a man hit by the first vision of that which he had sought to see.

Dr. Ferris was past the stage of seeing; he was intent upon delivering the last blows to an animal caught in a trap.

"Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against—then you'll know that this not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it.

You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals.

Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted—and you create a nation of law-breakers—and then you cash in on guilt.

Now that's the system, Mr. Rearden, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

39 posted on 05/03/2009 5:56:00 AM PDT by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: Old Sarge

obama and the Democrat Party’s policies will ensure that we are completely and totally destroyed as a Nation. While the Republican Party stands around, nodding their heads in agreement, and snickering.

obama and the Democrat Party’s policies will destroy our industrial base, our agriculture base, and our military .

Forget about the Republicans re-taking control of Congress in 2010. ACORN,the media, and voting idiots , and the Republican Party will see that it does not happen.

Ditto with 2012.

Man is in control of the United States destiny now. Almighty God has and the influencr of Almighty God has and is being bannished. unless the United States returns to the God of the Bible, nothing but disaster awaits down the road.


40 posted on 05/03/2009 5:57:07 AM PDT by sport
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To: barb-tex
The Founders were certainly extremists and certainly on the 18th century DHS list. The would have all been hung as traitors had the war turned out differently. barbra ann

Hmmmm.... Interesting point. However, the Founders knew they were creating something based on liberty. They recognized the need for revolution in order to gain their freedom.

Today's liberal thinks just the opposite. He's opposed to freedom by supporting govt. Most of them don't realize it but that's what they are doing. They can't think for themselves. If they could they would realize that they are actually building the chains that will bind them in the future.

41 posted on 05/03/2009 6:01:40 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Man50D

Hey, it’s racial profiling!!! The airport officials won’t be able to use it...


42 posted on 05/03/2009 6:03:04 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Man50D
What's up with these reports? This is another one that was originally created on Jan 23, 2007, 1:32:54pm.

But unlike the 'right wing extremest' one this one was revised on March 26, 2009, 1:53:08 pm, not April. Annnd if this one was revised first, why was it released second? Oh well, on the upside this one defines Barry, his entire Admin, and all his friends as extremists too.

I don't believe they had that in mind.

43 posted on 05/03/2009 6:04:08 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Man50D

You are a terrorist if you are against illegal activity and want the nation’s laws enforced.

“Anti-immigration extremism,” the lexicon defines as “a movement of groups or individuals who are vehemently opposed to illegal immigration, particularly along the U.S. southwest border with Mexico, and who have been known to advocate or engage in criminal activity and plot acts of violence and terrorism to advance their extremist goals. They are highly critical of the U.S. Government’s response to illegal immigration and oppose government programs that are designed to extend ‘rights’ to illegal aliens, such as issuing driver’s licenses or national identification cards and providing in-state tuition, medical benefits, or public education.”


44 posted on 05/03/2009 6:21:11 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz

Well, that certainly qualifies me on the illegal immigration list of potential terrorists. I guess we are not supposed to insist that the government enforce the law?


45 posted on 05/03/2009 6:31:21 AM PDT by TommyDale (National Crime Victims' Rights Week: April 26 - May 2, 2009)
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To: Iscool

Shhhhhh . . . . .


46 posted on 05/03/2009 6:38:04 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: Man50D
threat??? anybody what didn't vote for the 0goatse

47 posted on 05/03/2009 6:39:24 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: Man50D
(U) alternative media (U//FOUO) A term used to describe various information sources that provide a forum for interpretations of events and issues that differ radically from those presented in mass media products and outlets.

Interesting definition. Does this mean:

1. The Internet as a whole?

2. Just the parts of the Internet that aren't part of the mass media?

3. Just the parts of the Internet that they disagree with?

4. Fox news as a whole, since Fox frequently offers "radically" different interpretations that the main stream media?

5. Just the parts of Fox news they disagree with, such as The Factor and Glenn Beck?

6. Conservative talk radio?

7. All of the above?

There is some really, really scary thinking embodied in this definition. Primarily that only the main stream media's view represents truth and reality.

Folks, this thinking is right out of "1984"!

Please everyone, you must re-read this book!

48 posted on 05/03/2009 6:50:23 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff)
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To: Man50D

alternative media (U//FOUO) A term used to describe various information sources that provide a forum for interpretations of events and issues that differ radically from those presented in mass media products and outlets.

and there it is...

49 posted on 05/03/2009 7:01:20 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Wow! Conservatives have really come up in the world. We’re as good as black separatists now!!


50 posted on 05/03/2009 7:27:30 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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