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Specter: Reaganís GOP is gone [attacks GOP, Club for Growth, conservatives]
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | 2009-05-03

Posted on 05/03/2009 12:56:27 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

On Sunday talk shows, he says the 'big tent' party of Reagan and the late Jack Kemp has been replaced by rigid conservatism.

BY MARK TRUMBULL

Sen. Arlen Specter (D) of Pennsylvania and leaders of the party he bolted last week surprisingly struck a chord of near agreement in discussing the future of the Republican Party Sunday.

The question of whether the party can stage a revival without welcoming Northeastern moderates came to the fore on television talk shows Sunday morning.

On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Senator Specter blamed the inner workings of the conservative movement for his own departure, and suggested that “there has to be room for people who are moderates.”

Appearing later on the same show, some Republican figures essentially agreed with that assessment, even while they did not endorse all of Specter’s remarks.

(Excerpt) Read more at features.csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
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On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Senator Specter blamed the inner workings of the conservative movement for his own departure...

It's not the voter's fault that Specter voluntarily and willfully chose to vote for the Obama-Pelosi-Reid Porkulus Maximus.

1 posted on 05/03/2009 12:56:27 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

Those darn conservative primary voters in Pennsylvania. How dare they attempt to take away what is rightfully Specter’s for life!! /s


2 posted on 05/03/2009 12:58:08 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: rabscuttle385

Anyone who would vote for that POS “stimulus” package was so far removed from Ronald Reagan and reality . . .

You and your self-centered, career-obsessed self, Mr, Specter, is what left the GOP. You obviously care nothing for your country, its taxpayers, nor its legacy.


3 posted on 05/03/2009 12:59:55 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: rabscuttle385

Yes, Reagan’s GOP is nearly gone, and Specter is one of it’s killers.


4 posted on 05/03/2009 1:02:15 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: rabscuttle385

Why was he the last person in the country to realize he is a Democrat?


5 posted on 05/03/2009 1:02:27 PM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: rabscuttle385
Arlin is not worth the time of day. We are better off without him. My only regret is that several others go with him.
Lean and mean That is what we need.
6 posted on 05/03/2009 1:04:23 PM PDT by DeaconRed (Three Things to know about torture: 1-.Red is Positive. 2-.Black is Negative. 3- Nuts must be wet..)
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To: rabscuttle385
What I would like to know is where the he$$ are the moderate democrats and how come their party isn't admonishing each other to make room for their moderates??
7 posted on 05/03/2009 1:06:13 PM PDT by auntyfemenist (Fetch the royal iPod..)
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To: jimtorr
Specter was first elected, then reelected, during the Reagan years.

The Gipper didn't try to run him out of the party. He was smart enough to know you need numbers to govern.

8 posted on 05/03/2009 1:06:40 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: rabscuttle385

“Scottish Law” Arlen Sphincter.

Actually, I think Sphincter died ten years ago, but his hideous cadaver is still animated by sheer lust for power.


9 posted on 05/03/2009 1:07:13 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: rabscuttle385
On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Senator Specter blamed the inner workings of the conservative movement for his own departure, and suggested that “there has to be room for people who are moderates.”

Moderate is a euphemistic term for socialists. Thank you for the complement and nowhere should there be room for socialists.
10 posted on 05/03/2009 1:08:42 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Welcome.


11 posted on 05/03/2009 1:10:04 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: rabscuttle385
Reagan's GOP was a conservative GOP, and it was weasel-lipped, tax-guzzling, invertebrate castrati like Specter who killed it. Good riddance, and thanks for nothing.
12 posted on 05/03/2009 1:11:26 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: Man50D
Good point, in Spectors case, but I find that moderate is more often a euphemism for drone in the general application.
13 posted on 05/03/2009 1:11:49 PM PDT by SeaWolf (Orwell must have foreseen the 21st Century US Congress when he wrote 1984)
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To: Man50D

Who care what Specter thinks.


14 posted on 05/03/2009 1:12:04 PM PDT by jocko12
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To: rabscuttle385

Why should anyone care what a turncoat has to say? If Specter had stayed in the party, his voice might have some marginal credibility. But since he fled the party, his voice should count for nothing. He can take all the RINOs across the aisle that he wants. We won’t miss any of them.


15 posted on 05/03/2009 1:13:11 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: rabscuttle385

One more time: when you vote conservative 44% of the time for almost 30 years, more than likely you BELONG in the other party...

hh


16 posted on 05/03/2009 1:13:18 PM PDT by hoosier hick (Gotta go, millions of Obama supporters are counting on me to pay their mortgages)
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To: rabscuttle385
Well, yeah, Arlen. You're one of the responsible parties.

Hopefully with your exit now it's on its way back.

17 posted on 05/03/2009 1:14:38 PM PDT by jr.ewing.78
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To: rabscuttle385

No, Sphincter, YOU’RE gone! Officially now instead of just obviously, and thank God for that!

We don’t need you or your kind.

We never wanted you either.

Good riddance!


18 posted on 05/03/2009 1:15:17 PM PDT by Enoughofthissocialism
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To: rabscuttle385

To paraphrase Michael Corleone in Godfather II,

“Arlen, you are dead to us.”

When he betrayed the party he gave up any moral authority to comment on it.


19 posted on 05/03/2009 1:16:13 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: auntyfemenist
I know yours is a rhetorical one, but I will state the obvious and say that they are having too much fun watching the Republican party disintegrate. Big problem with this is that the country cannot afford Obama and his big spending minions running the show for the next 7 years.
20 posted on 05/03/2009 1:18:28 PM PDT by lt.america (Looking for a bailout)
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To: rabscuttle385

Hey Specter....you mind is going Left...you’re so far left you can’t see Regan’s Accomplishments.

Historically speaking, Specter, you are Ignorant of most things Republican . . . really Ignorant....so shut up and get ready to Retire.


21 posted on 05/03/2009 1:19:32 PM PDT by 4Speed
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To: hoosier hick
Specter has a 54.5% conservative ranking this year (National Journal).
22 posted on 05/03/2009 1:20:16 PM PDT by Cedric
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Sen. Specter thanks for the feedback, good bye.


23 posted on 05/03/2009 1:21:35 PM PDT by MattMa ("Void of ideas, driven by hate, they voted the Democrat Party in 2008")
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To: rabscuttle385

Specter: Reagan’s GOP is gone

Well yes Arlen it is gone.Its gone becuase of you, Snowe,Collins and others that diluted the Republican Party until it was just Democrat Lite...


24 posted on 05/03/2009 1:23:03 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: rabscuttle385

If Specter is against it, I like it!


25 posted on 05/03/2009 1:23:25 PM PDT by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: OrangeHoof
Why should anyone care what a turncoat has to say?

Specter is no turncoat, he has always been a liberal POS. The Republican voters who kept him in office when he kept stabbing them in the back are the ones to blame. Specter always showed his true colors even if the citizens were too color blind to see.

26 posted on 05/03/2009 1:28:58 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: rabscuttle385

You have had 30 years Arlen. Go retire somewhere and shut up!


27 posted on 05/03/2009 1:33:25 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: SECURE AMERICA

-One thing the Demon-rats didn’t realize -

it is ALL About Sphincter- he MAKES A DEAL to
get a senior position on the DEMON side of congress!
pushing long term Rats out of the way!

The U.S.A. is totally screwed with the majority of
losers like this that are now in congress.


28 posted on 05/03/2009 1:46:16 PM PDT by mj1234
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To: rabscuttle385

NO Arlen, the Rockefeller-Bob Michel-Gerald Ford wing of the GOP is turning the party into a permanent minority.


29 posted on 05/03/2009 1:47:32 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: rabscuttle385
Specter: Reagan's GOP is gone.

Got news for ya Arlen, Reagan's GOP is just on vacation and it will be back.

You however, are headin' for the boneyard, ya disloyal old coot.
30 posted on 05/03/2009 1:59:48 PM PDT by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: rabscuttle385
Appearing later on the same show, some Republican figures essentially agreed with that assessment, even while they did not endorse all of Specter’s remarks.
Let's see who these unnamed Republican figures are...

'Meet the Press' transcript for May 3, 2009
Then, the future of the Republican party with: MSNBC's Fmr. Rep. Joe Scarborough (R-FL) & Fmr. RNC Chair Ed Gillespie.
And they've got...1 page out of 4.
I'm not impressed.

31 posted on 05/03/2009 2:03:10 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: rabscuttle385

Reagan cut taxes. All Porculus does is RAISE them. There are NO Conservatives on the alphabet networks. It’s a stacked deck. Liberals are liars and petty thieves.


32 posted on 05/03/2009 2:22:27 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: rabscuttle385

“On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Senator Specter blamed the inner workings of the conservative movement for his own departure, and suggested that “there has to be room for people who are moderates.”

This is such a ridiculous statement in light of how the party governed since Bush took office in 2001. The moderates in the party have basically run the show since then, screwing over Conservatives at virtually every turn. They could be depended upon to vote exactly the wrong way or undermine the fight on virtually every important issue to Conservatives or back down when the going got tough on a vital issue in the face of liberal opposition. It’s nothing but a snow job for political cover.

Spectre is nothing but a political pimp in search of sustaining his Senate seat which he would lose in a primary. He does not give a damn who he steps on or destroys. Right now he is merely in the process of trying to endear himself to Democrat voters in PA by dumping on the Republican party in general.

The Republican party has outlived its usefulness to him so he’s gone. He’s the worst kind of politician and the damned Democrats can him. He’ll fit right in. He’ll probably croak before he has a chance to screw them over too, again.


33 posted on 05/03/2009 2:23:22 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Spay or Neuter your liberal today!)
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To: Cedric

Thanks. :-)


34 posted on 05/03/2009 2:28:59 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: philman_36

Personally I am ready for Snowe and Collins to follow suit. Anyone else as well?


35 posted on 05/03/2009 2:31:49 PM PDT by jonboy
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To: rabscuttle385

The GOP has a new leader waiting in the wings. He is a Four Star General with a PhD. He is the world’s leading expert on asymmetric warfare. He has been nose to nose with Obama and taken measure of the man. He knows the enemy.


36 posted on 05/03/2009 2:48:50 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (I don't trust Obama with my country. Do you?)
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To: Cedric
He was smart enough to know you need numbers to govern.

Numbers mean nothing if the fool consistently votes opposite the rest of the party.

37 posted on 05/03/2009 4:44:12 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: mainepatsfan
Those darn conservative primary voters in Pennsylvania. How dare they attempt to take away what is rightfully Specter’s for life!! /s

As a PA conservative primary voter who has spent the past five years working to send this guy to the retirement home, I wear his scorn as a badge of honor.

Typical Rat - do whatever it takes to survive.

38 posted on 05/03/2009 4:47:43 PM PDT by Ogie Oglethorpe (2nd Amendment - the reboot button on the U.S. Constitution)
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To: philman_36
MR. SCARBOROUGH: But here's the, here's the problem, though. When Republicans took over Washington--and we're not just talking about George W. Bush, we're talking about Republican Congress. When Republicans took over Congress in 2001 and the White House, we owned Washington, D.C., like Democrats do now. We had $155 billion surplus. When Republicans got out of power we had a $1.5 trillion debt--deficit. We doubled the national debt from about $5.7 trillion to about $11 trillion. Americans believe that we were spending too much money on foreign wars as well. We, we were the world's 911. We got away from the basics that Eddie and I worked on in the 1990s: balancing the budget, reforming welfare and adopting Colin Powell. You want to know a true conservative on foreign policy? It's Colin Powell, who says we go to war sparingly, and when we go to war we fight to win so we can bring our troops home. We've gotten away from that. And it's not just been one Republican, it's been the entire party. We've got to refocus. That's why when I hear Democrats like Arlen Specter and read editorialists like E.J. Dionne saying how liberal--or, or how conservative the Republican Party's become, they've got it backwards. We have not been conservative as a party, we've been radical.

That's Why!

39 posted on 05/03/2009 5:00:42 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: buccaneer81

The majority party gets the committee chairmen.

Numbers do matter.


40 posted on 05/03/2009 6:39:53 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Cedric
The majority party gets the committee chairmen.

I'm aware of that. A Specter or equivalent is no guarantee of the outcome of a committee vote.

41 posted on 05/03/2009 6:59:29 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Reagan was a conservative Republican that welcomed moderates, and convinced them that it was in their interest to do so.

Today’s Republican party is a liberal party asking to be welcomed by Democrats, and have been convinced that is in their interest to do so.


42 posted on 05/03/2009 8:32:36 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Cedric

So it is passed out of the committee and the committee chairman votes with the opposition. So what good is the committee?

In a normal world, I would agree with you, but we are not libving in a normal world right now.


43 posted on 05/03/2009 8:34:25 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Cedric

And smart enough to know that you can give your vote to the opposition to give them the numbers they need.


44 posted on 05/03/2009 8:36:50 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: rabscuttle385

What I don’t understand is how the Democrats really could care at all about him, since they had the majority anyway, and Spector was a sure vote either way.

So why give Spector any deal at all?

They didn’t have to buy the cow to get the milk for free.


45 posted on 05/03/2009 8:39:57 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: rabscuttle385
The Republicans did not distance themselves from conservatism.

They said after the Republicans mentioned in this article completely distanced themselves from conservatism.

46 posted on 05/03/2009 8:50:21 PM PDT by LucyJo (Crazy doesn't even begin to cover it.)
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To: Randy Larsen
That's Why!
He needed to tell us something we didn't know!
We have not been conservative as a party, we've been radical.
What is missing, and plainly lacking, is his and the party's solution! (and it shouldn't be coddling the current crop of RINOs or bringing in new ones)
When they have a solution they'll warrant my attention.
47 posted on 05/04/2009 3:57:37 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
So what good is the committee?
It's good for appearances.
48 posted on 05/04/2009 3:58:32 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
So why give Spector any deal at all?
If you read the transcript I posted above you'll read that there was no deal.
Page 3...
MR. GREGORY: I want to move on, though, to the question of what it took for the Democrats to get you. What were you offered? What inducements have you been given to switch parties?
SEN. SPECTER: None.
MR. GREGORY: None.
SEN. SPECTER: None.

49 posted on 05/04/2009 4:03:48 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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