Skip to comments.Boeing counting on lift from 787 Dreamliner (End of June)
Posted on 05/03/2009 1:16:26 PM PDT by decimon
After two years of costly and embarrassing delays, the first flight of Boeing's new 787 Dreamliner is on track for the end of June. When the 787 does lift off, Boeing officials hope it takes the company's stock with it.
They've still got credibility issues, and there's an awful lot of people with a wait-and-see attitude, Aboulafia said, adding that key airline customers remain dubious about the 787s weight and performance on the first six airplanes under production.
There are good reasons to be cautious about the 787,'' Aboulafia said. The problem was they've been overly optimistic in their schedules.''
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Waiting for Goboe ping.
Better not be too many bugs in this machine or Boeing may have a few problems.
Ha! Next you'll be saying GM has problems.
Another plane with passenger seating designed around a 5’0” 110 lb woman.
Well, it’s McCain that hates Boeing, and Washington State IS a union and Dem stronghold. . .and Boeing IS headquartered in Chicago. . . .
I think others are not letting that happen. The last talk was of some splitting of the project but that was shot down.
If I remember correctly, it was the same old “maverick” McCain who bone headedly got Boeing stripped of the original contract award, then turned round and employed Airbus lobbyists in his presidential campaign. Now his stupid daughter is out trying to screw Republicans too. Is the entire McCain family full of evil doers?
I'd guess it will be but there could be some problems to resolve. We'll see.
Beware any manufacturing company that locates the HQ away from the plants.
It's a sign that they want disconnect from the messy realities of manufacturing, and want to focus only on the glamour of money and marketing. Any time I've seen a company do that, they get rapidly FUBAR.
Mind you, you might need to move the plant, too, thanks to greedy/corrupt state/local governments, or unruly labor. But you have to stay attuned every day to the ground floor of your operations.
I guess you're not counting on seats as pictured in post #11.
Boeing was the one who screwed the pooch on that one: Ex-Boeing CFO pleads guilty in tanker deal scandal
Mike Sears, Boeing CFO, admitted his guilt, and got a 4 month prison term for his role.
That is the first class section. Cattle car seating is behind those.
Boeing does not choose the size and spacing of the seats in it's aircraft, the airlines do. Boeing simply delivers what the airlines specify.
Yeah, my seat. ;-)
Boeing has plants across the USA, not only in Seattle anymore. One reason for moving headquarters might have been to give the appearance (only) that they recognize the rest of the company (Meaning MacDac for the most part). They were also having issues with Washington state and local governments, unions, etc.
As to the tanker;
Given the Great OH's international dreams I think Airbus has an edge in DC. And, I think the bias against Boeing goes beyond McPain to include the Air Force in general. They are probably still smarting from being told they screwed up the earlier procurement(s) - so there might not be much of a stir if a new RFP is slanted toward the Euros.
Not planning on shelling out $2,500 for a first class ticket.
One other thing, and that is the Airbus tanker will be built in Alabama. The question then becomes will 0bama screw red state Alabama, or will he try to help Artur Davis get elected governor.
I saw three of the 787’s when I toured Boeing earlier this year.
The windows on the plane are huge, the workers were actually climbing out of the plane by stepping through the windows.
Yes we are excited about it all. It is worse though than the 777 days. I just got off work at Boeing Field. I work in Flight Test. With the P8 Poseidon, the 747-8, and the new 787 all in flight test at the same time, we are the busiest part of the company right now. A great place to be.
Damn, I’m green with envy.
Just out of curiosity, are the the floor panels and seats still secured to rails with spring-loaded clips?
Sorry. GM stands for General Motors, a defunct car company. Believe it or not, General Motors was at one time the world’s largest car company.
I understand that, but then maybe they should have put the HQ in Wichita KS, or wherever the surviving McDonnell-Douglas plants were (CA? Well, that'd be a big problem there....)
Boeing made the decision on the 787 to subcontract out the manufacturing of the major aspects, and only get into assembly & integration. And this is one of the big areas causing problems in the program - many of the subcontractors haven't built planes, and they're not one cohesive organization with decades of experience to call on.
I think what happened here goes hand-in-hand with the move to Chicago. It's the usual elitist MBA thinking of "get it out of mind by getting it out of sight", and then like magic it's going to be another entity's job to mind those tough aspects of the job.
The reality is that minding the tough, ugly parts of the business is what got it to the top - so down it then sinks. It's OK though - management still makes out like bandits, thanks to idiot absentee shareholders!
Kidding me right?
Oh that model T thing?
Yep. And the Airflow.
“I think others are not letting that happen. Juan McCain?”
McCain may have something to do with it but the guy I have seen most on tv talking against Boeing is none other than Senator Shelby from Alabama. Lest we forget, Tip O’Neil’s famous quote “all politics are local” Airbus has a presence in Sweet Home Alabama....
The good old 5th column trick eh?
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