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California Supreme Court Lets School Expel Lesbians
NBC 11 ^ | Sat, May 2, 2009

Posted on 05/03/2009 7:33:28 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The California Supreme Court is letting stand a lower court ruling that allowed a private religious school to expel two girls for an alleged lesbian relationship. The state's highest court this week declined a request from the girls' attorney to review the case. The 4th District Court of Appeal in Riverside in January had upheld California Lutheran High School's right as a private, religious organization to exclude students based on their sexual orientation.

The teens initially sued the Riverside County school in 2005 based on a state anti-discrimination law. Advocates for religious freedom called it the right decision but the girls' attorney, Mike Grace, said he fears the decision could open the door to more religious discrimination.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; christianschools; christianstudents; court; homonaziagenda; homosexualagenda; lawsuit; lesbian; lutherans

1 posted on 05/03/2009 7:33:28 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

California has surprised me twice this week.


2 posted on 05/03/2009 7:36:10 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: nickcarraway

This decision is not opening any doors to discrimination. It’s setting the limits of what our existing gay friendly laws are.

I can’t believe how liberals take everything to an extreme. I remember after the Supreme Court upheld the ban on partial birth abortion, Rosie O’Donnell said it was as if the women’s movement and abortion rights movement never happened. Which of course is absurd.


3 posted on 05/03/2009 7:37:03 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Exactly. Private schools can make their choices as they wish. If they take state money, or fed money, then that’s different.


4 posted on 05/03/2009 7:40:17 PM PDT by mavfin
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To: Dilbert San Diego

If California allows private schools to expel Lesbians for their gay acts, then I think by the same reasoning, they will allow private schools unfriendly to Christians to expel them when they are discovered to say, be reading the Bible or studying the Bible or praying together.

After all, they can say what’s good for the goose is good for the gander and they can site this case as a precedent.


5 posted on 05/03/2009 7:42:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
they will allow private schools unfriendly to Christians to expel them when they are discovered to say, be reading the Bible or studying the Bible or praying together.

No big deal, since it's a private school, nobody is forced to go there, if they can't get enough people to go because of their rules, they go out of business.

6 posted on 05/03/2009 7:43:48 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: SeekAndFind
If California allows private schools to expel Lesbians for their gay acts, then I think by the same reasoning, they will allow private schools unfriendly to Christians to expel them when they are discovered to say, be reading the Bible or studying the Bible or praying together.

You can't expel someone who never enrolls or leaves when they see they aren't welcome. Can't imagine Christian parents sending their kide to a priovate school that is anti-Christian.

7 posted on 05/03/2009 7:45:40 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeekAndFind

You may be right.

How is the scenerio you painted a bad thing?


8 posted on 05/03/2009 7:46:06 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Willful ignorance is a dangerous attitude.)
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To: SeekAndFind
If California allows private schools to expel Lesbians for their gay acts, then I think by the same reasoning, they will allow private schools unfriendly to Christians to expel them when they are discovered to say, be reading the Bible or studying the Bible or praying together.

This is a problem how? Private school that takes no public funds can refuse anyone they want, pretty much. 'Private' usually means 'church-based' but not always.

You can't reserve the right for one private school to exclude without reserving the right for another private school to exclude .

9 posted on 05/03/2009 7:50:07 PM PDT by mavfin
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To: mavfin

Last line should read:

You can’t reserve the right for one private school to exclude X without reserving the right for another private school to exclude Y.


10 posted on 05/03/2009 7:51:08 PM PDT by mavfin
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To: nickcarraway

It’s the right decision for the wrong reasons. In the eyes of the Judges, their descendants attend schools such as these. The last thing they want their kids doing is mingling with those they view as lesser citizens. I don’t know what’s worse here. The fact that they made the right decision on a fascist notion or the fact that they avoided a socialist one.


11 posted on 05/03/2009 7:54:55 PM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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To: prismsinc

It’s a good decision. The Lutherans get to define THEIR agenda at that school, and parents choose it for the same reason. The sodomites just cannot STAND to not get their noses into every pie and ruin it.

Yah for California. A small glimmer of light in the twilight.


12 posted on 05/03/2009 8:02:10 PM PDT by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: bboop

it should be noted that this High School is not an ELCA school..they prolly wouldn’t care too much about that sort of thing...this is a WELS school...you know, the group of Lutherans who actually read and follow the Bible...


13 posted on 05/03/2009 8:05:18 PM PDT by stefanbatory (Do you want a President or a King?)
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To: nickcarraway

“Advocates for religious freedom called it the right decision but the girls’ attorney, Mike Grace, said he fears the decision could open the door to more religious discrimination.”

Then its a step in the right direction. Religious schools discriminating against what they see as sinful is a natural law.


14 posted on 05/03/2009 8:24:25 PM PDT by Jeb21 (www.jewsagainstobama.com)
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To: nickcarraway
The California Supreme Court is letting stand a lower court ruling that allowed a private religious school to expel two girls for an alleged lesbian relationship.

It's the word alleged that gives me a problem. Certainly the private school has the right to expel students for violating their rules, but the word alleged implies that the lesbian relationship has not been proven.

Or is this the news source covering its butt for legal purposes?

15 posted on 05/03/2009 8:43:00 PM PDT by kittykat77
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To: kittykat77

From what I scanned the girls where suing for being expelled because of their certain sexual activities. They WERE NOT suing because the school called them lesbos. I would think that by taking the route they (the girls) did it would only affirm the school’s charges.


16 posted on 05/03/2009 8:50:45 PM PDT by brent13a (You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
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To: nickcarraway

Actually, if we hadn’t been spending billions and billions of dollars on AIDS research I’m sure we probably would have found a cure for cancer by now.

Doesn’t Arlen have like half a brain? Maybe between him and Ted they can get together enough cells to go tie one on.


17 posted on 05/03/2009 8:53:52 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Sprechen sie Austrian?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, you are right. A private school can exclude anyone for any reason. They are, after all, a PRIVATE school. That suits me fine.

I guarantee you I would not be welcomed into any number of clubs due to my conservative opinions. That’s ok.


18 posted on 05/03/2009 9:47:31 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: kittykat77

From what I’ve read the girls admitted to being in a lesbo relationship.


19 posted on 05/03/2009 9:48:35 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: SeekAndFind
If California allows private schools to expel Lesbians for their gay acts, then I think by the same reasoning, they will allow private schools unfriendly to Christians to expel them when they are discovered to say, be reading the Bible or studying the Bible or praying together.

what are you talking about? so what if a private school unfriendly to Christians expels them when they are discovered to be reading a Bible... which Christian parents would send their Christian to a school like that?

20 posted on 05/03/2009 9:52:52 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: nickcarraway

“but the girls’ attorney, Mike Grace, said he fears the decision could open the door to more religious discrimination”

Is it just me or does this quote show an extreme lack of intelligence on the part of the girls’ lawyers? It would be RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATION if the school were not ALLOWED to follow its principles and teachings, and required student conduct. And, this is NOT a public school — it is a PRIVATE RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION.

Again Isaiah 5:20 comes to mind (so MANY times lately...):

Isaiah 5:20 (KJV)
20Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!


21 posted on 05/03/2009 9:53:51 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: nickcarraway

Onward to the 9th Circus? Wouldn’t put it past them.


22 posted on 05/03/2009 9:56:47 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: F15Eagle
"California has surprised me twice this week."

Savor it. {g}

23 posted on 05/03/2009 10:03:06 PM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Way out of line here...but to be expected from some I guess...

Do you not actually believe in actual liberty - non-government involvement in private affairs? You are stating the same type of argument as those that want universal government control...


24 posted on 05/03/2009 11:17:51 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: bboop

Oh I agree with you, don’t get me wrong. All I’m saying is let’s not dilute ourselves into thinking the Judges have finally “seen the light”. They did it for purely selfish reasons.


25 posted on 05/04/2009 2:38:46 AM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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To: nickcarraway
California Supreme Court Lets School Expel Lesbians

The skewed language by this liberal sh**hole news site is uncanny. "Lets"? As if the Church school were "allowed" to practice their beliefs.

26 posted on 05/04/2009 4:06:36 AM PDT by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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To: SeekAndFind

That would be their right, and it’s fine with me.


27 posted on 05/04/2009 5:09:04 AM PDT by goldi
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