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James Baker Backs Reinstating the Draft
US News and World Report ^ | 5-3-09 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 05/03/2009 8:02:08 PM PDT by truthandlife

Rep. Charlie Rangel, Congress's lone champion of reinstating the military draft, can count on another Korean War-era vet for support: Republican James Baker, a soldier in the Reagan and Bush administrations. Baker, secretary of state during the first Gulf War, visited a private girls' school in Virginia, where he was asked how to attract kids into some kind of service that gives them a stake in the country's future. "This is a very unpopular thing that I am about to say," he warned. "But one thing that makes it harder to go to war is to have a draft, because when you have a draft, then everybody's got a stake in it, and the costs of war are brought home much more vividly and vigorously to the American people. I think national service is a wonderful idea." But unlikely, he conceded: "You get killed if you support a draft, politically, but it sure would raise the stakes. Everybody would understand a lot better what we have at stake when we go to war."


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1 posted on 05/03/2009 8:02:08 PM PDT by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife
Reinstating the Draft..........NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2 posted on 05/03/2009 8:06:10 PM PDT by NordP (CONSERVATIVE AGAIN IN 2010 ..... Now, is it 2012 yet ???)
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To: truthandlife
WHAT?

I mean

WHAT?!?

James Baker said WHAT? Damn.... (shaking head) just DAMN.
3 posted on 05/03/2009 8:06:12 PM PDT by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: truthandlife

I’d love to see the leftist faces when young women are drafted into service. They want equal everything...With all this political correctness, equal rights etc, in the U.S., they’ll get just that.


4 posted on 05/03/2009 8:08:25 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: truthandlife

He’s still alive? Who knew?


5 posted on 05/03/2009 8:08:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("The unarmed man is not just defenseless - he is also contemptible." Machiavelli)
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To: truthandlife

I pray not. I have teenaged sons, and I sure don’t want them forced to serve under the current White House resident.


6 posted on 05/03/2009 8:10:00 PM PDT by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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“But unlikely, he conceded: “You get killed if you support a draft, politically, but it sure would raise the stakes. Everybody would understand a lot better what we have at stake when we go to war.”

Haven’t you heard Jimmie, we don’t declare wars anymore. A draft is nothing but a guarantee of sub-par soldiers in this day and age. The other idiot Rangel whom also supports a draft only does so as a vehicle for organizing anti-war protests in the vain of a left-wing agenda. It has nothing to do with the so-called noble principle of a “national service”.


7 posted on 05/03/2009 8:10:24 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Spay or Neuter your liberal today!)
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"the costs of war are brought home much more vividly and vigorously to the American people".

What a Dushbag. We have a all volunteer armed forces and they want to be there and they are proud to be there.

The draft would bring in a bunch of dushbags who did not want to be there just like in the 60's.

The one thing about the draft if your old enough to get drafted then your old enough to drink. So are they going to lower the drinking age to 18 or raise the draft age to 21?

8 posted on 05/03/2009 8:13:32 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: truthandlife
We should draft a 100,000 each year, train them through basic and a short duration advanced specialization (total active time no more than six months), then return them to civilian life.

They would not be required to serve in either the National Guard nor the Reserves. Only if there was a declared war, such as the two World Wars would they be called back to service.

9 posted on 05/03/2009 8:14:09 PM PDT by richiep (Richie)
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because when you have a draft, then everybody's got a stake in it

I remember during the late 60s and 70s it was just accepted by most that if you or your family had money or connections you could stay out of "The Draft" if you or your daddy so desired. Seemed to be and was accepted as a fact of life.

10 posted on 05/03/2009 8:17:30 PM PDT by WesternPacific (I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils!)
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To: truthandlife

The same way that if everyone pays taxes, then everyone has a stake in the country?


11 posted on 05/03/2009 8:21:41 PM PDT by carola
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To: truthandlife
Another Bushie sticks his statist face into the media limelight.

STFU Baker, you old fart.

12 posted on 05/03/2009 8:23:48 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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Everybody would understand a lot better what we have at stake when we go to war

Which is why Rangel supports it; what better way to make sure theres draft riots and other disruptions

Thats the last thing anyone wants , except for mischievous leftists and brain dead dinosaurs like Jim Baker.

13 posted on 05/03/2009 8:27:30 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: truthandlife
They ARE talking about the Military and not the obama Youth Corp right?


14 posted on 05/03/2009 8:28:01 PM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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The draft would bring in a bunch of dushbags who did not want to be there just like in the 60's.

Dushbags? Did not want to be there?

Are you referring to the 18,000 that were drafted and died fighting in Vietnam?

15 posted on 05/03/2009 8:31:01 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: carola

Bring it on. The young people who voted for Obama should find out what service is all about. I fear Obama will get us into a really bad war. Weak presidents do that.


16 posted on 05/03/2009 8:32:03 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: guitarplayer1953

We should have tried every traitor including the Weather Underground, Jerry Rubin, and Jane Fonda all of whom waged agit prop warfare and physical warfare against the United States during a time of war in positive pro-North Vietnamese Communist VICTORY.

That would’ve cut the wind out of the sails off the so called anti-war movement. if they were truly antiwar, they wouldn’t have celebrated every time a Viet Cong shot down a US pilot.


17 posted on 05/03/2009 8:32:32 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: truthandlife

if it ain’t broke ......


18 posted on 05/03/2009 8:32:56 PM PDT by elpadre (Afganista)
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To: dragnet2
And how many went AWOL, ran away to Canada, played Clinton's “I loathe the military but want to join ROTC but I don't” game, or served but worked as agent provocateurs or served doped up and fragged their own men because of incompetence?
19 posted on 05/03/2009 8:34:05 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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And how many went AWOL

I have no idea. I was referring to the 18,000, that were drafted that died fighting honorably in Vietnam.

If I'm not mistaken, going AWOL also occurs in the ranks of the enlisted, though not in as great of numbers.

20 posted on 05/03/2009 8:39:09 PM PDT by dragnet2
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