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Jeb Bush, GOP: Time to leave Reagan behind(RINO ALERT)
www.washingtontimes.com ^ | 5/4/09 | Joseph Curl

Posted on 05/04/2009 2:28:14 AM PDT by personalaccts

Jeb Bush, GOP: Time to leave Reagan behind Party leaders go on 'listening tour' with eyes on future By Joseph Curl (Contact) | Sunday, May 3, 2009

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Saturday that it's time for the Republican Party to give up its "nostalgia" for the heyday of the Reagan era and look forward, even if it means stealing the winning strategy deployed by Democrats in the 2008 election.

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1. I know Rush is loyal to the Bush family. What will he say? He's gone after everyone else that has said the same thing. 2. I think the Bushes should be thankful that Ronald Reagan let their daddy ride the Reagan coattails. I think they still have it in because Reagan spanked "daddy Bush" in 1980.
1 posted on 05/04/2009 2:28:15 AM PDT by personalaccts
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To: personalaccts

Sorry JEB but time to let you and your family GO ! ! ! ! !


2 posted on 05/04/2009 2:32:39 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Three Things to know about torture: 1-.Red is Positive. 2-.Black is Negative. 3- Nuts must be wet..)
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To: personalaccts

This would be hysterical if it weren’t so sad. Steal the Rats’ approach? The problem is decidedly asymmetrical. No, we need someone of sufficient gravitas to serve as the next Reagan to Obama’s Carter. I’m rootin’ for the Saracuda, who didn’t even deign to answer these GOP “re-branders.”


3 posted on 05/04/2009 2:33:33 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: personalaccts
Why do RINOs like Jedster want to ditch Pres.Reagan?

Answer:

"A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs
 which must not be compromised to political expediency
or simply to swell its numbers."

--  President Ronald Reagan


"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party
 over to the traitors in the battle just ended.
We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged
 to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support.
Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates
wouldn’t make any sense at all.""

--  President Ronald Reagan

4 posted on 05/04/2009 2:33:49 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: personalaccts

I am willing to adopt one Democrat strategy and go out and by a “Buck Fush” bumper sticker.


5 posted on 05/04/2009 2:34:41 AM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: personalaccts

I’d vote for Donald or Daffy (Duck) over any member of the Bush family at this point.


6 posted on 05/04/2009 2:39:14 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: personalaccts
"So our ideas need to be forward looking and relevant. I felt like there was a lot of nostalgia and the good old days in the [Republican] messaging. I mean, it's great, but it doesn't draw people toward your cause," Mr. Bush said.

It would draw people to our side if we had someone on our side who actually talked about and implemented conservative ideas. How can it be a winner if the Republicans don't practice it and act like Dems? We all know what happens with that "strategery"--you p!ss off people on both sides.

7 posted on 05/04/2009 2:44:38 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: wendy1946
Hopey-changey rhetoric is exactly what the GOP does not need. At least not without spelling out what they mean.

First, Rats can well outdo them in the unicorn and fairy dust category any day of the week, with one paw tied behind their back.

Second, do they realize that in 2008, 40% of potential voters stayed home? McCain was underwhelming, he did not deliver any direct punches to Obama's many flim-flams.

8 posted on 05/04/2009 2:47:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Voter#537
"Sorry JEB but time to let you and your family GO ! ! ! ! !"

DITTO!!

Purge the RINO's

9 posted on 05/04/2009 2:50:35 AM PDT by blam
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To: personalaccts

Just pathetic... Seems that most of the Republican party is blind to reality. Oh well, they (the GOP) will be gone soon and either another party will prevail or a revolt will result. It’s really ashamed that the GOP is so blind to reality.


10 posted on 05/04/2009 2:52:29 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: blam

The name of Bush is the kiss of death now.


11 posted on 05/04/2009 2:53:21 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

McCain threw the election. All he had to do was mouth four simple words (”I oppose the bailout”) and he’d be president today. He oculd have changed his mind later and he isn’t stupid enough not to know this. Soros or somebody or something got to him; we’re living in a 1.5 party system.


12 posted on 05/04/2009 2:54:35 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Deagle

I think the Saracuda will end up saving them, in spite of themselves. And if we are fortunate we will end up with another 12-16 years of reasonably conservative presidents starting in 2013 (Sarah, then her veep).


13 posted on 05/04/2009 2:56:07 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: wendy1946

Maybe at his age he was too Bushed. (Pun intended)


14 posted on 05/04/2009 2:58:06 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: personalaccts

I’ve said it before - the Bush family would have been nothing but for Reagan. The father was a ticket puncher with the support of a few country club bluebloods; he was not associated with a single big idea and had no vision for the country whatever. The son was a lamebrained prep school type whose “success” in business was orchestrated by his father’s friends and whosse primary accomplishment after eight years was giving us extra trillions in debt, a tragic war in a country (Iraq) of little threat to the US, and a socialist President bent on bankrupting the country and its citizens. For once I agree with something Jesse Jackson, of all people, said: Stay out of the Bushes.


15 posted on 05/04/2009 2:58:58 AM PDT by laconic
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Heh... I hope you’re right! Actually, the long run looks very good for our Palin... The more the MSM picks on her, the more famous she becomes... She is simply a good person.


16 posted on 05/04/2009 3:00:14 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: wendy1946

Yes, the American fury was kindled there. Congress’ phones were ringing off the hook. It had nowhere to go with both candidates flying in their face.


17 posted on 05/04/2009 3:04:17 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"I think the Saracuda will end up saving them, in spite of themselves. And if we are fortunate we will end up with another 12-16 years of reasonably conservative presidents starting in 2013 (Sarah, then her veep)."

Not likely with the changing demographics of this country. Once amnesty legislation is passed by the democrats, this country will become even more socialist.

18 posted on 05/04/2009 3:05:51 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: personalaccts

Jeb who? Bush? I don’t recognize that name.

Ooooh, you mean Bush like that guy that was only President because he was riding on that old guy named Reagan’s coattails.

Hmm, so that Bush fella that was made famous/President by that creepy old guy Reagan must have had a son. How nice. Oh and you mean he even got to be Governor of Florida too!! Just because he had a name like his dad, the other Bush who rode on that creepy old guy Reagan’s coatails! Man, he is one lucky guy!

Too bad he’s an idiot.


19 posted on 05/04/2009 3:08:18 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: Godebert

Well, if that happens, it will not matter which party is elected - will it? If your pessimistic outlook occurs, we can kiss America goodbye... Not a grand outlook...


20 posted on 05/04/2009 3:09:18 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Godebert

We’re talking about a rather large non voting wild card still. The amnesty as currently discussed means simply to put the illegal Mexicans at the rear of the queue for citizenship at the time of amnesty (not at the time of their entry). That will make one whopper of a queue, and nothing would happen in time to derail Sarah’s initial entry.


21 posted on 05/04/2009 3:10:13 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Diogenesis

Can someone (wait, give me till this afternoon and that someone will be me, but will someone JOIN me) in emailing this quote to every Rep in Congress?

I mean nothing more, no long fussy email, this quote will get lost in that. JUST THIS QUOTE. It will stand out to someone.

Maybe?


22 posted on 05/04/2009 3:10:55 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Hopey Changey rhetoric won’t work on us because if you compare majority wise WE ARE MORE INFORMED THAN THEN. All you have to tell a hopey changey is that the girls will love them in their new car and off the lot they ride. But for a car salesman to sell people like us a car, we read the fine print.

See the difference? We don’t need Hopey Changey. We need someone to stand up and say “THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE AND IT’S NOT WRONG”. That is the comparitive equivalent to Hopey Changey on the right.


23 posted on 05/04/2009 3:13:50 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: personalaccts
I see Bush III has succumbed to Newspeak, just like Bush II.

First we had "compassionate conservatism" (more spending), "campaign finance reform" (criticize an incumbant and go to jail), and "stimulus" (we're all Keynesians now, again).

Now we get "listening tour" (don't stand for anything or the New York Times will write an unfavorable piece) and "nostalgia" (opposing the tidal wave of socialism with free market ideas is tired old thinking).

24 posted on 05/04/2009 3:16:47 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: personalaccts

Jeb Bush, GOP: Time to leave Reagan behind

What a maroon. We left Regan behind the day the first George Bush took office and have not looked back since.
Its time that America found another Regan,if we want this nation to survive,prosper and be the America it should be and can be again.


25 posted on 05/04/2009 3:20:16 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: personalaccts

Jeb did a good job as Florida Gov. He kept spending under control and initiated zero new big govt. intrusions.
However socially he is a RINO turd.
I wish the Bush’s, Clintons, Kennedy’s and all other family politicians would just go away.


26 posted on 05/04/2009 3:30:27 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (yEP,i)
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To: personalaccts

The Democrat strategy was all in the marketing. Marketing and the MONEY to carry it out. The Democrats realized that while truth in labeling might apply to a can of peas, when it comes to politics all bets are off. Think about it. How many times during the 2008 campaign did you hear the term “Brand” applied to a the the political parties?

Undemine brand X, while selling Brand Y as new and improved, green, centrist, good for you, less fattening. In that way, you could even sell a Kenyan-Marxist street agitator with radical ties as some kind of centrist moderate uniter and hope for the world.

That was the absolute brilliance of the Democrats strategy in 2008.

The left is good at this however as it comes naturally. Im not so sure the GOP can pull it off.


27 posted on 05/04/2009 3:36:53 AM PDT by RonnG
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To: personalaccts

The Bush clan has given us the Clintons and the Obamas


28 posted on 05/04/2009 3:42:10 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Nobody has ever really said that Sarah can win Iowa and New Hampshire. Those two states are so dangerous that I would not put any guantees on anybody. Remember that everyone was for sure thinking that a conservative would win Iowa and that did not happen. I would love for someone to explain our winning approach of getting Sarah the nomination. We have to have some sort of plan I hope. I would tell he to visit Iowa soon. Maybe that is a start.


29 posted on 05/04/2009 3:51:14 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

I would hope enough Iowans are upset by this gay marriage thing popping up in their midst, to get off their duffs and vote.


30 posted on 05/04/2009 3:53:53 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: personalaccts

Oh well, I guess we should leave Washington, Jefferson, and all those other really old guys behind too!


31 posted on 05/04/2009 3:56:22 AM PDT by Third Person (there's a fine line between clever and stupid.)
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To: laconic

Since Reagan the best reason to vote Republican has been to keep the Democrat out, but the Republican himself was always a bigger government, higher tax gagger.


32 posted on 05/04/2009 4:03:45 AM PDT by Leisler ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
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To: personalaccts

I once thought that Jeb Bush was the best of the Bush family, politically speaking. I have now changed my mind. He should evacuate with the rest of the family to their fortress in South America.


33 posted on 05/04/2009 4:11:11 AM PDT by TommyDale (National Crime Victims' Rights Week: April 26 - May 2, 2009)
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To: Diogenesis

The difference is, Reagan was not hell bent on driving the “moderates” out of the GOP.

He was smart enough to know that you need numbers to govern.


34 posted on 05/04/2009 4:19:55 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: rrrod

The Bush clan saved you from Dukakis, Gore and Kerry.


35 posted on 05/04/2009 4:22:34 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: personalaccts
He ripped newts guts out when he said the same thing on his show... within two minutes, he had newt turning about face saying what he said was not really what he meant. repubics leave Reagan behind and I walk from their cancerous party forever... not only that but I will help to drive the third party stake through their heart. A third party means America loses but without Reagan's party embracing Reaganism... America is done... over... kaput... and if America goes down... the repubics will cease to exist FIRST... as anything but a has been, washed up failed party. That is a solemn vow. Don't try it repubics... and NO MORE BUSHES EVER!

LLS

36 posted on 05/04/2009 4:23:36 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: Diogenesis; Jim Robinson
These words should be on top of the Home Page of Free Republic!

LLS

37 posted on 05/04/2009 4:25:01 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

My, My, aren’t we full of bluster this morning.


38 posted on 05/04/2009 4:26:38 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: beaversmom
jeb is a liar and he knows that he is a liar. His brother and Father would have NEVER been elected if they had not stolen Reagan's vision and Reagan's words. They ran as Reagan and won... but they ruled like jeb’s words here. They are liberals in Reagan clothing. No Reagan and I go third party! NO COMPROMISE! COMPROMISE is over... just like a Bush's career political career... dead on arrival.

LLS

39 posted on 05/04/2009 4:28:35 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: personalaccts

All right Newt! Time to step up to the plate and knock these bozos out of the park.

WE DON’T WANT ANY MORE OF THIS CRAP! With all due respect Mr. Bush, this is the sort of thing that keeps the left (on both sides of the aisle) in power.


40 posted on 05/04/2009 4:30:37 AM PDT by mark3681
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To: Cedric; Jim Robinson
pi$$ off repubic party boy.

Hey Jim... here is a prime example of what your great post was talking about yesterday!

LLS

41 posted on 05/04/2009 4:35:12 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
I hate to interrupt your delirious ranting with facts, but here's an actual quote by Mr. Bush from the article:

"We have principles, we have values. They are the values that are shared by the majority of Americans, there's no question about it. But we have to now take those principles and values and apply them to the challenges that our country faces today and in the future. ...

"And then, hopefully - God willing - [we] embrace our conservative principles and take these new ideas and present them to the American people."

What could any conservative in his right mind possibly object to in these quotations?

42 posted on 05/04/2009 4:49:12 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: personalaccts
Time to leave Jeb behind.

And I've never once heard Rush pull any punches when it came to defending Reagan; and I've heard him scorch Bush (and Jeb, regarding the no-drilling) when appropriate.

But I think you're looking a little too deeply at motivations. The Bush's, despite their Texas influences, are at heart NE Republicans, which is to say, more RINO than Texan. I think briefly in 1990-91 we got the Texan GHW Bush, and from 2002-2004 we got the Texan W. The rest of the time, we got the RINOs.

43 posted on 05/04/2009 4:51:17 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: personalaccts

Jeb who?


44 posted on 05/04/2009 4:51:44 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: Cedric
Gee party hack... seems the author of the article and true Conservatives know exactly what the rino bush from Florida meant... you can read the title?

You need to go read Jim's post yesterday... heed it as a warning... you and the rest of the bush moderates put party and winning above Country and GOD... NO MORE! There is but one way forward... and Reagan laid it out... all we need to do is start up where Ronaldo Magnus left off... Reagan had just gotten started. He had faith that we would carry on... but bush I failed him and the Nation.

LLS

45 posted on 05/04/2009 5:04:10 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
the author of the article and true Conservatives

I thought that's what you were falling for.

Shame on Mr. Curl. Authors of NEWS articles aren't supposed write articles which are either overtly Conservative or Liberal. They're just supposed to accuratel report what happened.

And you're supposed to be able discern and object to violations of this principle.

46 posted on 05/04/2009 5:15:43 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: personalaccts

RINO and COMMIE = NWO


47 posted on 05/04/2009 5:23:09 AM PDT by usshadley (it's time to choose..the empire or the republic?..you can't have both.)
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To: Cedric

“What could any conservative in his right mind possibly object to in these quotations?”

The fact that he was lying?


48 posted on 05/04/2009 5:42:31 AM PDT by DwFry (Baby Boomers Killed Western Civilization!)
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To: DwFry
Precisely. You have to go to something he didn't say to find something to gripe about.
49 posted on 05/04/2009 6:07:13 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: personalaccts

Stay outta da Bushes.


50 posted on 05/04/2009 6:08:32 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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