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White House Plans To Keep Terror Plane Pics Secret
Business Insider ^ | 5/5/2009 | John Carney

Posted on 05/05/2009 9:13:52 AM PDT by Nachum

You paid $328,835 for the Air Force mission that forced the evacuation of Goldman Sachs and sent Jersey City office workers fleeing for their lives and now you'll never get the lousy snapshots that formed the entire rationale for buzzing lower Manhattan.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoairforceone; house; keep; obamasecrets; plans; usaf; white

1 posted on 05/05/2009 9:13:52 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: SumProVita; HardStarboard; BradyLS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; dervish; Twotone; Free ThinkerNY; ...

The List, ping


2 posted on 05/05/2009 9:14:17 AM PDT by Nachum (the complete list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

This is telling me that it wasn’t a sight seeing tour.


3 posted on 05/05/2009 9:14:55 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Nachum

Hell.....I guess it’s a National Secret. Doesn’t that plane belong to the people? Doesn’t the money spent on that plane belong to the people? If they don’t want to tell the people what went on, the people should ground that plane and let them walk.


4 posted on 05/05/2009 9:16:23 AM PDT by RC2 (WE ARE A REPUBLIC.......act like it.)
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To: Nachum

We paid for them - I want to see them.


5 posted on 05/05/2009 9:16:53 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Nachum
We'll keep the pictures of this administration foolish mistake secret...but we'll relase hard intel photos of our own intergation methods of the ennemy...to the enemy.

Makes pretty clear what this administration is all about...and its sure not about protecting America.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

NOW WE KNOW WHAT A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER DOES

OBAMA, THE STOCK MARKET, AND ENERGY

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IN HIS OWN WORDS

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

IT'S TIME FOR A RETURN TO THE OLD SCHOOL

6 posted on 05/05/2009 9:17:18 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Nachum

correction! :) psy-op aka gage reaction of new yorkers who were forced to relive 9-11 in their minds, not photo-op


7 posted on 05/05/2009 9:17:26 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: Nachum

They already said it was a photo shoot for publicity. Does this mean it was for top secret publicity?

They can’t produce the photos because there are none.


8 posted on 05/05/2009 9:17:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Nachum

Ah. The lies are piling up.
But Hussein has his powerful 5th column going strong for him, so this will come to nothing.


9 posted on 05/05/2009 9:17:57 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Nachum

There are no photos to keep secret.


10 posted on 05/05/2009 9:19:40 AM PDT by stylecouncilor (The black man is keeping me down!)
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To: Nachum
thats ok we have our own and they are hysterical

Photoshop Contest, Obama Air Force One Photo OP


11 posted on 05/05/2009 9:20:20 AM PDT by edzo4 (NoBama 2012)
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To: Nachum
OBAMA PLANE PHOTO OP STARTLES NEW YORKERS
By DAVID SEIFMAN, MURRAY WEISS and JEREMY OLSHAN
April 27, 2009

Photo gallery:
http://www.nypost.com/photos/galleries/news/regionalnews/pp_20090428_plane/photo01.htm

Story:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04272009/news/regionalnews/obama_plane_photo_op_startles_new_yorker_166470.htm

12 posted on 05/05/2009 9:21:34 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Nachum
Photos that reflect badly on the Bush administration, encourages our enemies and/or endanger national security: how many copies do you want!?

Photos that reflect badly on Obama: classified!

MSMwhore reaction to such blatant hypocracy?:

yawn...........

13 posted on 05/05/2009 9:23:44 AM PDT by wny
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To: edzo4

I’m quite proud of that one.

North by Northwest was the first thing I thought of when news Of Ear Farce One made the news.


14 posted on 05/05/2009 9:25:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Nachum
The transparency is so thick you can't see through it.
15 posted on 05/05/2009 9:25:49 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Nachum

16 posted on 05/05/2009 9:26:07 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Nachum
CIA interrogation methods: OK for public release.

AF1 pictures over NY: Not OK for release.

See tagline for reaction.

17 posted on 05/05/2009 9:27:36 AM PDT by edpc (01010111 01010100 01000110 00111111)
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To: Nachum

18 posted on 05/05/2009 9:27:47 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Nachum
President Obama Declares “A New Era of Openness”

In a breathtaking series of statements and executive actions, President Barack Obama yesterday announced “the beginning of a new era of openness in our country.”

“For a long time now there’s been too much secrecy in this city,” he told reporters at a January 21 swearing-in ceremony.

“The old rules said that if there was a defensible argument for not disclosing something to the American people, then it should not be disclosed” (a paraphrase of the October 2001 policy statement of former Attorney General John Ashcroft). “That era is now over.”

“Starting today, every agency and department should know that this administration stands on the side not of those who seek to withhold information, but those who seek to make it known,” President Obama said.

Moreover, “I will also hold myself, as president, to a new standard of openness…. Information will not be withheld just because I say so. It will be withheld because a separate authority believes my request is well-grounded in the Constitution.”

“Let me say it as simply as I can. Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency.”

19 posted on 05/05/2009 9:28:43 AM PDT by McGruff (Did you know? In Alaska they have a negative income tax!)
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To: RC2

One acronym: FOIA.


20 posted on 05/05/2009 9:30:56 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Nachum
I see. So releasing memos on enemy torture techniques and photos of alleged victims is ok, but this is top secret?

Somebody better sue to get them released. Tax payers paid for this bullsh!t flyover.

21 posted on 05/05/2009 9:32:18 AM PDT by rintense (Go Israel!)
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To: Nachum
I always thought that the photos were intended to be used for fundraising. If they are released, it would be clear what the intent of the "mission" was.

-PJ

22 posted on 05/05/2009 9:35:05 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
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To: rintense
Tax payers paid for this bullsh!t flyover.

If we are going to use the word, why not spell it out?

Can the right out-cuss the left?

23 posted on 05/05/2009 9:37:00 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
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To: Nachum
Apparently it was test run for WMD-dispersal for foreign
operatives who rented the plane by way of illegal
donations (which noone in America cares about).


24 posted on 05/05/2009 9:37:49 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Nachum

I guess only the privledged ones who were on the flight get the photos? In these tough economic times they should be very careful I’m sure those photos are worth a fortune to any news organization.


25 posted on 05/05/2009 9:45:08 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: cripplecreek
They can’t produce the photos because there are none.

I think you've hit on the truth. This wasn't for photos - it was a joy ride for someone, apparently. The audacity of arrogance of these people. Seems like every African country freed from colonial rule ends up with a tin pot dictator and I guess BO figures this is his due.

26 posted on 05/05/2009 9:48:07 AM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Nachum

Check out this scenerio -
Not an innocent photo-op flight, but an information gathering operation. Two flights were
planned, one over Wall St. and one over the capital building (Why not one over the Whitehouse?)
One scenerio: to gather timing, fueling, and flight co-ordinates on these two sites.
Posible purpose: Plans to fly ordinary 747’s into these buildings and they needed preliminary
flight specs.
Since there are no Americans crazy enough to do a suicide mission, the only way to
accomplish these attacks would be to provide Obama’s suicide crazy new friends (our enemies)
with the information. The reason: Destroying Wall St. and the US Capital would truly appear to
be a grand scale national emergency, allowing Obama to be president indefinately.
“Too dangerous to risk an election”
Laugh if you want, but does anybody who thinks, really think that this was just an innocent
$330,000 “photo-op” that nobody at the Whitehouse knew about? If anybody can come up with
another logical, non-conspiracy reason for this secret air-show, I’d like to hear it.
Think this sounds uncomprehendable that anyone would consider such a thing?
Remember Obama and Michele are close friends with people who got away with,
and don’t regret, bombing the pentagon and police stations. “The end justifies the means.”
Anything for their cause.


27 posted on 05/05/2009 9:51:47 AM PDT by Cindy of Nashville (What has the Democrat party become???)
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To: Cindy of Nashville

You seem to have a pretty vivid imagination... a little off the deep end. However, I do agree with you completely.


28 posted on 05/05/2009 10:00:48 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Aria
"I think you've hit on the truth. This wasn't for photos - it was a joy ride for someone,..."

I think Michelle and Grandma were on that plane. Michelle says she likes to sneak out and do different things. Grandma is so busy with sightseeing she can't take care of her grandkids.

29 posted on 05/05/2009 10:01:55 AM PDT by Spunky (Quit breathing! You are causing global warming.)
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To: Cindy of Nashville

Seems to me the 9/11 terrorists did a pretty good job without a test run.

My husband is a pilot - you don’t need to fly to a place to gather timing, fueling etc. This sort of thing is available via aviation software.


30 posted on 05/05/2009 10:04:26 AM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: stylecouncilor

"A *secret* publicity stunt?"

31 posted on 05/05/2009 10:06:02 AM PDT by 24-7Freeper
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To: Nachum

I think a suit should be filed, perhaps under the Freedom of Information Act, to release the pictures. At least the videos from private citizens should be bought by the GOP for future campaign commercials.


32 posted on 05/05/2009 10:07:05 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Proud Veteran - Sworn to Defend The Constitution! - Caution: That makes me a Right-Wing Extremist.)
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To: Nachum

Look for the photos to be used during 2011 - Re-Election Ads.


33 posted on 05/05/2009 10:07:38 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Never has so many been owed so much by so few)
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To: Nachum

Glen Beck has filed a FOIA request for these photos.

It will require a whole school of law professors to stop that from being fulfilled.


34 posted on 05/05/2009 10:11:09 AM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: Nachum
The TSA has Classifed a new plan for General Aviation Security and pilots and aviation groups have been warned not to look for it on the web.

We have Classified picture of the 747 joy ride...

Yet we De-Classified the method and means of getting information out of enemy non-combatants which gives ou enemy a leg up on our efforts.

Ok... Tell me where the common sense in these three examples.

You can't because their is no common sense beam me up Scotty...

35 posted on 05/05/2009 10:15:38 AM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: ETL

OK, 1 question................where’s the photo plane?


36 posted on 05/05/2009 10:35:36 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Aria

Do you honestly think this was no more than an innocent, non-thinking joyride for grandma. I might be all wrong about my scenerio and the motive, but I’d bet anything there was secret dirty-work afoot with a motive that has to be kept secret from the people.


37 posted on 05/05/2009 10:39:54 AM PDT by Cindy of Nashville (What has the Democrat party become???)
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To: ravingnutter

ding, ding, ding!
we have a winner.

FOIA the hell out of those photos. :)


38 posted on 05/05/2009 10:42:57 AM PDT by caphillbabe
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To: Sarajevo

>OK, 1 question......
>where’s the photo plane?

The answer lies in this April 30th Wall Street Journal piece...

“I don’t know what their rationale was for wanting a photo op,” Mr. Morrell said. “This originated in the White House Military Office, so I am assuming it was at the behest of the White House and it was their idea of something they wanted to take place.”

The three-hour round-trip flight from Andrews Air Force Base in Washington, D.C.’s Maryland suburbs cost more than $300,000, according to an Air Force estimate. Mr. Gibbs said the president didn’t believe it was an appropriate use of money at a time of austerity and asked a deputy chief of staff, Jim Messina, to head the review.

“The president was furious upon learning of this decision,” Mr. Gibbs said.

The 747-200B aircraft, one of two used as Air Force One, was accompanied by two F-16 fighters from the D.C. Air National Guard, which operates out of Andrews.

“We’ve never been asked to do this before,” said Capt. Byron Coward, a spokesman for the guard unit.

While the F-16s were flown by guard pilots, the photographs were taken by Master Sgt. Andrew N. Dunaway, a specially trained Air Force photographer based with a combat camera squadron at Charleston Air Force Base, S.C.

Only one of the F-16s was involved in the photo shoot; the other peeled off once the 747 reached New York, but both accompanied the plane back to Andrews. According to Vicki Stein, an Air Force spokeswoman, the cost for the fighters, both of which flew nearly two hours, was $28,000.

Despite the cost of an Air Force One flight, both White House and Air Force officials said the flyover also served as a routine training mission, allowing the 747’s pilots to log sufficient flight hours.

“The crew on these aircraft have to maintain their proficiency,” said Gary Strasburg, an Air Force spokesman.

A White House spokesman said, “They took that opportunity to marry up the two missions to take the photo,” adding, “The president thinks there is nothing wrong with the previous official photo of Air Force One.”

“I think it’s symptomatic of being new,” one former Bush administration official said of the flap over the Manhattan flight.

A former Bush White House aide said he didn’t recall any Air Force One trips specifically for publicity. A handful of documentaries about Air Force One were produced during President George W. Bush’s tenure, and the production team flew along on a few presidential trips to shoot footage.

A production crew also flew along on some Air Force One trips with President Bill Clinton for one of the documentaries, which straddled the two presidencies.

Mr. Caldera occupies a position overseeing various military units that provide services to the president such as transportation, communications and medical personnel. The White House declined to make Mr. Caldera available for an interview.

Asked if the judgment error might lead to Mr. Caldera’s dismissal, Mr. Gibbs said the decision would wait until Mr. Messina’s review is complete. Following the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the Bush administration effectively converted the job of head of the Military Office from a political appointment to a Defense Department post. It was filled by a series of active-duty admirals under Mr. Bush.

The aim was to maintain high readiness levels in light of the new terrorism threat. But it was also a recognition of the overall importance of White House military personnel: There are several thousand whose jobs bring them in close proximity to the presidency, from the squad that carries the nuclear-weapons “football” to Marines who tend the West Wing’s front door. The head of the Military Office coordinates all of it.

The Obama administration decided to switch the post back to a political job, despite some concerns that Bush administration officials conveyed during the transition planning.

Former Pentagon officials who worked with Mr. Caldera when he was Army secretary said the East Los Angeles native came to the job with a “bullet-proof resume,” having graduated from West Point and earning law and business degrees from Harvard University.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124093288256863979.html


39 posted on 05/05/2009 10:51:11 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Cindy of Nashville

I think that they’re not telling us the real reason but I have no idea of what it was except maybe taxpayer funded payback for Obama’s supporters. Yes, they were up to no good.

Bleeping tin pot dictator!


40 posted on 05/05/2009 12:55:46 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: ETL

HUH....a training mission? They don’t log enough hours in the normal course of flying Obama all over the place for his campaign appearances i.e. his celebration of his 100 days?

Doesn’t make sense.


41 posted on 05/05/2009 12:59:05 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Nachum

Transparency in action....(NOT)


42 posted on 05/06/2009 5:08:44 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: RC2
Hell.....I guess it’s a National Secret. Doesn’t that plane belong to the people? Doesn’t the money spent on that plane belong to the people? If they don’t want to tell the people what went on, the people should ground that plane and let them walk.

People's plane, people's money? What are you? some kind of a nut? /S

43 posted on 05/06/2009 6:43:44 AM PDT by dearolddad
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To: ravingnutter
One acronym: FOIA.

I think the more important question should be: Who is on the plane.

44 posted on 05/06/2009 6:47:23 AM PDT by dearolddad
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To: Diogenesis

This thread is deteriorating fast. Please keep it up!


45 posted on 05/06/2009 7:15:00 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: dearolddad

I apologize.......I guess I just assumed that it was our money. How could I have been so mistaken?


46 posted on 05/06/2009 7:28:27 AM PDT by RC2 (Put Megan Kelly on the supreme court!)
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