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CA: State sees sharp drop in income tax revenue
Sac Bee ^ | 5/5/09 | Dale Kasler

Posted on 05/05/2009 9:41:00 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

California collected just $7.34 billion in personal income tax payments in April, putting further stress on the state's budget.

The state controller's office said the collections in April were down from $13 billion a year earlier. About a quarter of all income tax revenue is collected in April, the agency said.

In addition, the dismal April means the state is falling behind the revenue forecasts incorporated into the budget deal adopted by the Legislature in February.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calbudget; california; caltaxes; incometax; revenue; ruhroh

1 posted on 05/05/2009 9:41:00 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Barry McGuire: Eve of Destruction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8SfiCnwF28


2 posted on 05/05/2009 9:42:02 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well gee, it must be WE THE PEOPLE’S fault.It can’t be how the state is run!

California is so far into the red, they had to create a new spectrum for it. It’s called “California RED”


3 posted on 05/05/2009 9:42:41 AM PDT by cups
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down down down


4 posted on 05/05/2009 9:43:09 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: cups

And just wait when the special election happens in a few weeks. They will ALL get shot down and those slap d*cks up in Sac town will throw their hands up in the air and accuse US. People are fed up with this crap here and that’s why they are leaving.


5 posted on 05/05/2009 9:44:42 AM PDT by cups
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To: calcowgirl; Liz

Ouch!


6 posted on 05/05/2009 9:44:44 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: NormsRevenge

The parasitic CA legislature and their State Worker Union enablers will view this as another reason to raise taxes.


7 posted on 05/05/2009 9:46:00 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wow. We didn’t see THAT coming! Tax collections always go up each year because they always have in the past. (/sarc)


8 posted on 05/05/2009 9:48:25 AM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: NormsRevenge

C’mon folks your’re not doing your part!


9 posted on 05/05/2009 9:51:07 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: NormsRevenge

Last person to leave CA won’t need to turn out the lights. There won’t be any power anyway.


10 posted on 05/05/2009 9:51:10 AM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Time for some heavily armed Democrat extraction squads to head to other states and bring back all of those scofflaw ex-residents who thought they could defeat the Glorious Revolution by moving away. :)


11 posted on 05/05/2009 9:53:17 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("If you cannot pick it up and run with it, you don't really own it." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: NormsRevenge
California collected just $7.34 billion in personal income tax payments in April, putting further stress on the state's budget.

Because people and businesses are fleeing the excessive taxes and anti-business environment. Of course the classic Democratic response to this is to raise taxes some more.
12 posted on 05/05/2009 9:53:42 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: NormsRevenge

LOL! I hate some of those old dopey hippie songs from the 1960s. A lot of the talentless hippie dope smoking “music” crap came out of Cal.

This song sure fits though. I think the public workers unions need raises and more endless benefits for illegals. Sadly it will get worse and worse and people will still vote for liberals.


13 posted on 05/05/2009 9:53:51 AM PDT by Frantzie ("Remember when Bush was President & Americans had jobs?")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What will the parasites do when the host dies? Look for a new host, the Feds.


14 posted on 05/05/2009 9:54:51 AM PDT by central_va (www.15thVirginia.org Co. C, Patrick Henry Rifles)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

CA put a hold on sending out refund checks didn’t they? It’s only fair for those that owe, to file as many extensions as they can legally file.


15 posted on 05/05/2009 9:55:06 AM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: cups

I feel another $5 trillion Obama stimulus package coming to bail out MexiFornia.

Sadly you could have nuclear winter and these morons would keep voting Dem.


16 posted on 05/05/2009 9:56:50 AM PDT by Frantzie ("Remember when Bush was President & Americans had jobs?")
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To: NormsRevenge

Raise taxes. Lose revenue. Lower taxes. Increase revenue.

Simple as that. Dems will never learn.


17 posted on 05/05/2009 9:58:19 AM PDT by nhwingut
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To: listenhillary

Those people getting refunds are evil and greedy like bondholders.

Sadly our “leadership” is McCain and Romney with the RINO Bush clan waiting in the wings to “save us.”


18 posted on 05/05/2009 9:58:40 AM PDT by Frantzie ("Remember when Bush was President & Americans had jobs?")
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To: NormsRevenge

As usual, the only people who are surprised are the clueless CA politicians.


19 posted on 05/05/2009 9:59:02 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: NormsRevenge

Simple solution: Raise taxes and fees. There, done.


20 posted on 05/05/2009 10:00:59 AM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: cups

My 3 inlaws who live in SanDiego got IOUs instead of a check for their state income tax refund. They are livid.


21 posted on 05/05/2009 10:01:03 AM PDT by Roklok
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To: NormsRevenge

Simple solution: Raise taxes and fees. There, done.


22 posted on 05/05/2009 10:01:20 AM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: listenhillary

The saddest sign in California said....”I’m outta here. See you in Michigan”


23 posted on 05/05/2009 10:04:38 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Crucify ! Crucify ! Crucify him!!)
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To: Frantzie
Sadly it will get worse and worse and people will still vote for liberals.

Hard to see any other outcome when they drive all the conservatives out of the state. The people that are left don't vote based on logic, so they don't reason out the cause and effect of continuing to vote in liberals.

24 posted on 05/05/2009 10:06:10 AM PDT by Wissa (I despise the liberal media.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Not to worry, Obama will send you some of my money.


25 posted on 05/05/2009 10:06:45 AM PDT by blam
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To: NormsRevenge
As they say, as California goes so goes the country. The US is not far behind folks. Punish achievement and reward the lazy will do it every time.
26 posted on 05/05/2009 10:09:20 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Time for some heavily armed Democrat extraction squads to head to other states and bring back all of those scofflaw ex-residents who thought they could defeat the Glorious Revolution by moving away. :)

Come and get me. BTW--did I mention NH is a "shall-issue" state?
27 posted on 05/05/2009 10:09:22 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: NormsRevenge
What? You mean policies which have caused hordes of productive people and companies to flee the state has adverse consequences?

Who could have possibly foreseen that!!??

28 posted on 05/05/2009 10:09:27 AM PDT by Gritty (The force of an economic correction is equal and opposite to the deception that preceded-Bill Bonner)
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To: NormsRevenge

What did they expect?


29 posted on 05/05/2009 10:11:00 AM PDT by grimalkin (The issue is always the same: the government or the market. There is no third solution. - LVM)
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To: NormsRevenge

CA: State sees sharp drop in income tax revenue,with most mexicans getting paid in cash for day labor wonder how much tax money is lost?and top it off with welfare no wonder Ca. is in the hole.


30 posted on 05/05/2009 10:12:13 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: NormsRevenge

Is Galt shrugging in California?


31 posted on 05/05/2009 10:12:27 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: grobdriver

Atlas! Atlas!


32 posted on 05/05/2009 10:12:51 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: grobdriver

Let them eat tofu.


33 posted on 05/05/2009 10:14:33 AM PDT by gthog61
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To: Gritty

Shock shocked.

Keep telling DH to get the contract with the movers signed now for next fall, they will be swamped . . .

I’m taking my 2 small business with me.

The most productive are bailing, SoCal will be left with illegals & bangers.


34 posted on 05/05/2009 10:14:34 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: jazminerose

CA is too big to fail. The feds will have to bail CA out.


35 posted on 05/05/2009 10:18:50 AM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: gthog61
Let them eat tofu.

Most of them already do.

I separated from the Navy at Moffett Field and couldn't get out of the state and home to Texas fast enough.

36 posted on 05/05/2009 10:18:53 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Just the beginning nationwide when people realize that the underground economy is the way to go.


37 posted on 05/05/2009 10:20:14 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: jazminerose
The most productive are bailing, SoCal will be left with illegals & bangers.

this is so true. In NorCal we're seeing a great exodus as well. Personally we need to hang on for at least another year up to two years before we bail. Heading south(east). Looking for the best southern states to settle in for early retirement. Tax wise and other wise. Texas is not an option. No offense to you wonderful Texans, but i just don't like the landscape. Have travelled there many times and it's fine, but to settle down we're looking for a place with more trees, lakes, mountains. Something like TN but preferably where it doesn't snow.

38 posted on 05/05/2009 10:21:02 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: NormsRevenge
California is now a prime example of what happens when you enter the far right of the laffer curve...


39 posted on 05/05/2009 10:23:12 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (will work for bailout bonus.... Twitter: maddawggmorgan)
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To: NormsRevenge

More of the productive people, sick of high taxes, are leaving the state. The libs in the legislature just can’t seem to figure out how this all works.


40 posted on 05/05/2009 10:24:15 AM PDT by Bobkk47
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To: NormsRevenge
This is just the beginning. The State of Ohio just announced that they expect a $1 billion deficit due to less tax collected than expected. This is before the Chrysler plants that shut down today, presumably only fora two week time period.
Starting later this year you will start to see large and small suburban cities going bankrupt. At first it will be suburbs that cater to working and middle class home owners, then it will be the major cities. We are in for a long four years and a longer clean up of the One's bad policies.
41 posted on 05/05/2009 10:28:40 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town
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To: Roklok
My 3 inlaws who live in SanDiego got IOUs instead of a check for their state income tax refund. They are livid.

They need to jack up their exemptions to reduce the amount of state income tax taken out, both to make sure that the state owes them nothing in April 2010 and to reclaim the amount from that IOU.

42 posted on 05/05/2009 10:33:41 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (No free man bows to a foreign king.)
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To: Roklok

[My 3 inlaws who live in SanDiego got IOUs instead of a check for their state income tax refund. They are livid.]

I don’t live in San Diego however I do live in CA. We got our refund a few weeks ago in a real check along with an apology for it being delayed. How long ago did they get it?


43 posted on 05/05/2009 10:47:22 AM PDT by oldteen
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To: Roklok
My 3 inlaws who live in SanDiego got IOUs instead of a check for their state income tax refund. They are livid.

An alternative strategy is to declare your "refund" as a prepayment of taxes for this year. Don't send the state any money until your obligation matches their obligation.

44 posted on 05/05/2009 11:02:50 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Roklok

I got my state refund about 3 months after I filed. It’s ridiuclous. But hey, the Obamassiah lowered my Fed taxes by $20 a paycheck...So that $40 I save a month is going to pull m eout of my hole...THANKS OBAMA!

Oh and BTW, they raised the state income tax.


45 posted on 05/05/2009 12:27:19 PM PDT by cups
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To: Myrddin
An alternative strategy is to declare your "refund" as a prepayment of taxes for this year.

Exactly what North Carolina did to me on a portion of my refund.

46 posted on 05/05/2009 12:34:07 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: cups
Bad news, 0's tax cut isn't, he just lessened what was being taken out each month. If you normally got a refund it will be less next april 15. If you normally pay in, you'll likely be paying in more next april 15.

Sorry.

47 posted on 05/05/2009 1:07:59 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: NormsRevenge

You guys, what if we all changed our exemptions to 9 for two months, all at the same time. Do you think they would feel the sudden drop then? What will it take to wake these people up?


48 posted on 05/05/2009 1:47:23 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: Vinnie
Exactly what North Carolina did to me on a portion of my refund.

Did you retain the "pre-pay" from your initial tax liabilities starting in January?

49 posted on 05/05/2009 9:06:27 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: NormsRevenge

http://sco.ca.gov/Press-Releases/2009/05-09summary.pdf

California Cash Receipts


50 posted on 05/11/2009 12:04:53 PM PDT by cowtowney
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