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House bypasses governorís veto to claim Oklahomaís sovereignty
newsok.com ^ | May 5, 2009 | MICHAEL MCNUTT

Posted on 05/06/2009 7:39:50 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Although Gov. Brad Henry vetoed similar legislation 10 days earlier, House members Monday again approved a resolution claiming Oklahoma’s sovereignty.

Unlike House Joint Resolution 1003, House Concurrent Resolution 1028 does not need the governor’s approval.

The House passed the measure 73-22. It now goes to the Senate.

"We’re going to get it done one way or the other,” said the resolutions’ author, Rep. Charles Key, R-Oklahoma City.

"I think our governor is out of step.”

House Democrats objected, saying the issue already had been taken up and had been vetoed, but House Speaker Pro Tempore Kris Steele, R-Shawnee, ruled the veto is not final action.

Key said he expects HCR 1028 will pass in the Senate. HJR 1003 earlier passed the House 83-18 and won approval in the Senate 29-18.

Henry vetoed HJR 1003 because he said it suggested, among other things, that Oklahoma should return federal tax dollars.

Key said HCR 1028, which, if passed, would be sent to Democratic President Barack Obama and the Democratic-controlled Congress, would not jeopardize federal funds but would tell Congress to "get back into their proper constitutional role.” The resolution states the federal government should "cease and desist” mandates that are beyond the scope of its powers.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; 17thamendment; abuseofpower; constitution; counties; democracy; donttreadonme; electoralcollege; fedabuse; federalism; founders; freedom; government; hcr1028; legislatures; liberty; obamatruthfiles; ok; oksovereignty; senate; senators; sovereignty; states; statesrights; tnsovereignty; tyranny
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1 posted on 05/06/2009 7:39:50 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Excellent news. Hopefully more states will start fighting back against tyranny.


2 posted on 05/06/2009 7:41:46 AM PDT by Frantzie
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

“House Democrats objected, saying the issue already had been taken up and had been vetoed”

Dem’s just hate it when they have to follow the ‘rule of law’ and the Constitution (State or U.S.).

Unless, of course, it’s in their favor.


3 posted on 05/06/2009 7:44:00 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Frantzie

Yes exactly! One state needed to take the lead.


4 posted on 05/06/2009 7:44:09 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Bless those Okies!

In researching which states to move to upon retirement, OK seems to be the leader of the pack as far as conservatism goes. They vote Republican at a higher percentage than other states (I know, these days that may not be a consrvative thing but...) And their anti-illegal immigration laws are top notch.


5 posted on 05/06/2009 7:51:35 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Making plans to move back to McLoud, OK... my home town... Yippeee!!!


6 posted on 05/06/2009 7:56:11 AM PDT by xtinct ("There's a sucker born every minute." P.T. Barnum)
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To: Frantzie

>Hopefully more states will start fighting back against tyranny.

Maybe we should buy a copy of Liberty and Tyranny for our representatives, governors, and such.


7 posted on 05/06/2009 7:56:24 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Although Fox News and CNN are not telling you about it, a growing number of states are declaring sovereignty. Washington, New Hampshire, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, California, and Georgia have all introduced bills and resolutions declaring sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment. Colorado, Hawaii, Pennsylvania, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Alaska, Kansas, Alabama, Nevada, Maine, and Illinois are considering such measures.
8 posted on 05/06/2009 8:00:22 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: OneWingedShark
Tennessee Senate Affirms Sovereignty under the 10th Amendment

N.C. WAS on the list what happened?

9 posted on 05/06/2009 8:03:23 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

bump


10 posted on 05/06/2009 8:05:34 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We either Free America ourselves, or it is midnight for humanity for a thousand years.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
"I think our governor is out of step.”

Bingo. This is what this country needs.

I hope this state sovereignty thing is a growing trend. States rights have been stripped away from us for years.

The American people are no longer being represented, and they know it!
The tea parties are going to get bigger and bigger. Thank God, people are finally speaking up.

11 posted on 05/06/2009 8:11:41 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Bigh4u2; 2witty; A Jovial Cad; AmerRepb; amigatec; Amityschild; Angry_White_Man_Syndrome; ...
Oklahoma Ping!

If you want on
or off this list
Freepmail me.

12 posted on 05/06/2009 8:12:15 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (Μολών Λαβέ)
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To: CottonBall

We get it right down here. Now, if we can get the governorship back this state can really move forward.


13 posted on 05/06/2009 8:16:20 AM PDT by guido911 (Islamic terrorists are members of the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Thanks for your link. I read it and found myself in my "happy place."

This is great news. The politicians in Washington must be dumbfounded.

14 posted on 05/06/2009 8:16:41 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: 2Jedismom

Can you ping someone that can ping Tennesee as well?


15 posted on 05/06/2009 8:17:51 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Ping!


16 posted on 05/06/2009 8:25:26 AM PDT by Soul Citizen
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To: 2Jedismom

BTTT


17 posted on 05/06/2009 8:25:37 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: 2Jedismom

Well, since I’m from New York, I guess being on the OKLAHOMA ping list isn’t quite the place to be.

But thanks for the invite anyway!


18 posted on 05/06/2009 8:38:26 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Our Governor is a doofus Dem. He served his first term, acted rather conservative and got reelected, but this second term has him firmly in the Dem fold and proudly showing his colors. Good thing he’s term limited, altho I really doubt he would be reelected even if he could run.


19 posted on 05/06/2009 8:42:46 AM PDT by pepperdog (The world has gone crazy.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Another step forward for the Constitution.

Let’s all join in support of the Tenth Amendment.


20 posted on 05/06/2009 8:44:11 AM PDT by TBP
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To: Bigh4u2

It wasn’t really an invite...I was just pinging Oklahoma to your most excellent post!

:)


21 posted on 05/06/2009 9:00:51 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (Μολών Λαβέ)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

A meaningless gesture. The piece of paper has no teeth.


22 posted on 05/06/2009 9:15:52 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

Link of facts, please?


23 posted on 05/06/2009 9:16:54 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

The story is the link.

The piece of paper is asking Washington to be Constitutional. What do you think the answer will be?

It`s red meat to the masses that does nothing but temporarily satiate and calms.


24 posted on 05/06/2009 9:22:24 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Hasn’t passed the Senate yet.


25 posted on 05/06/2009 9:29:18 AM PDT by OKSooner ("He's quite mad, you know." - Sean Connery to Honor Blackman in "Goldfinger".)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Of course Washington won't be Constitutional. So the states have rights to do this.

I read one states docs that had specifics that the feds must commit in order for the state to break away. Gun rights, in basic language, the U.N. usurping the U.S.I do not think it is an immediate action, only one that breaks away when the feds and the U.N. and Obama go (pardon the droll black helicopter term ) all NWO global.

26 posted on 05/06/2009 9:33:02 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
I would like to see Oklahoma, Texas and Louisiana secede together to form a Confederation of Oil States.
27 posted on 05/06/2009 9:56:50 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Good for those people


28 posted on 05/06/2009 10:06:17 AM PDT by screaming eagle2
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Good for those people


29 posted on 05/06/2009 10:06:21 AM PDT by screaming eagle2
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

And Texas in a strong way.


30 posted on 05/06/2009 10:11:14 AM PDT by uncommonsense (liberals see what they believe and conservatives believe what they see)
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To: uncommonsense

It is odd that Tx. and NC are missing from the list of states all of a sudden.


31 posted on 05/06/2009 10:14:18 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: SVTCobra03
I would like to see Oklahoma, Texas and Louisiana secede together to form a Confederation of Oil States.

Leave New Orleans behind and it might work.

32 posted on 05/06/2009 10:16:58 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We either Free America ourselves, or it is midnight for humanity for a thousand years.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Now if Texas would only do the same. Obama is driving states out of the union with his big taxes and tyranny.


33 posted on 05/06/2009 10:24:06 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

I’ll ask again why is Tx. and NC no longer on the list? Anybody know?


34 posted on 05/06/2009 10:26:32 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Centurion2000

Not funny. Don’t be dissin NOLA man! Baton Rouge nor yankee La. are much better. LOL.


35 posted on 05/06/2009 10:27:50 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Sorry, States do not have a Constitutional leg to stand on and declare unilateral cessation from the Union.

You have ol` Abe to thank for that USSC decision. He packed the court with his stooges and they made up this law from nothing.


36 posted on 05/06/2009 10:39:39 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

There are alot of things done today that are supposedly not of the rules of law. I suggest the right all live on the right of the USA and the left the left. We can historically name it the Marxist-Conservative line.


37 posted on 05/06/2009 10:43:56 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: concerned about politics

I hope the tea parties get tremendously huge!!!


38 posted on 05/06/2009 1:31:54 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

OBAMA: " Joe, is that the sound of State's Right's adovcates tryin' tuh f**k up my sh*t?"
BIDEN: "Duh... I dunno..."

39 posted on 05/06/2009 1:35:48 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Sorry, States do not have a Constitutional leg to stand on and declare unilateral cessation from the Union.

You've been brainwashed, and have it exactly backward.

The federal government is a creation of the states, and the people thereof. The Constitution defines the federal government, and the limits within which it must exist.

The powers not specifically delegated to the federal government, are retained by the states and the people.

40 posted on 05/06/2009 1:45:10 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Para-Ord.45

Voluntary association. Abe was wrong in forcing the issue. The length of time someone believes a “wrong” thing does not make it any more true or logical. This goes double for the FedGov and the SCOTUS.


41 posted on 05/06/2009 1:50:00 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Tennessee Senate Affirms Sovereignty under the 10th Amendment

On May 4th, the Tennessee State Senate voted unanimously in support of Senate Joint Resolution 311 (31 yay - 0 nay). The resolution, sponsored by Senator Randy McNally, is designed to send Congress a message that the federal government has overstepped its Constitutional bounds by mandating a massive amount of federal policies upon the states in violation of the 10th Amendment.

The resolution now awaits transmittal to the House.

Read the full text below:

WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads as follows:

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”; and

WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being that specifically granted by the Constitution of the United States and no more; and

WHEREAS, the scope of power defined by the Tenth Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states specifically to be an agent of the states; and

WHEREAS, today, in 2009, the states are demonstrably treated as agents of the federal government; and

WHEREAS, many federal laws are directly in violation of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States; and

WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment assures that we, the people of the United States of America and each sovereign state in the Union of States, now have, and have always had, rights the federal government may not usurp; and

WHEREAS, Article IV, Section 4 says, “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government”, and the Ninth Amendment states that “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people”; and

WHEREAS, the United States Supreme Court has ruled in New York v. United States, 112 S. Ct. 2408 (1992), that Congress may not simply commandeer the legislative and regulatory processes of the states; and

WHEREAS, a number of proposals from previous administrations and some now pending from the present administration and from Congress may further violate the Constitution of the United States; now, therefore,

BE IT RESOLVED BY THE SENATE OF THE ONE HUNDRED SIXTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF TENNESSEE, THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES CONCURRING, that the State of Tennessee hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that this serve as Notice and Demand to the federal government, as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that all compulsory federal legislation which directs states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties or sanctions or requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding be prohibited or repealed.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that a copy of this resolution be distributed to the President of the United States, the President of the United States Senate, the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, the Speaker of the House and the Speaker of the Senate of each state’s legislature of the United States of America, and each member of the Tennessee Congressional Delegation.


42 posted on 05/06/2009 1:51:46 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Crucify ! Crucify ! Crucify him!!)
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To: bert

What happened to Tx. and NC doing this?


43 posted on 05/06/2009 1:54:55 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Your post was a link. After visiting it I thought it was worth the real thing as a post. I’m from Tennessee and wasn’t aware of the event.

NC? Tx? I don’t know


44 posted on 05/06/2009 1:59:02 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Crucify ! Crucify ! Crucify him!!)
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To: xtinct

Welcome back!


45 posted on 05/06/2009 2:03:33 PM PDT by tal hajus
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Way to go OK! Will someone tell me why anyone, especially a governor, would be against a state's sovereignty?
46 posted on 05/06/2009 3:08:32 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: meadsjn

I agree, never said it was right.

Ol` Abe was a tyrant and proved it stacking the court with his stooges to make up law out of nothing .


47 posted on 05/06/2009 4:37:33 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Naturally, i agree. The Fed is i`m guessing about 80% unconstitutional. Even Jefferson asked for an amendment to the constitution for the fed to get involved in education.

But,

” The bill does not have any practical legal effect “

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/06/oklahoma-legislature-asserts-sovereignty-overrides-veto/


48 posted on 05/06/2009 4:41:07 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
Henry vetoed HJR 1003 because he said it suggested, among other things, that Oklahoma should return federal tax dollars.

49 posted on 05/06/2009 4:43:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Nosterrex

Because the gov is a DEMOCRAT.


50 posted on 05/07/2009 5:10:24 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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