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Ron Paul's Influence Grows
The New American ^ | 2009-05-06 | Charles Scaliger

Posted on 05/06/2009 5:01:19 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

lthough he officially abandoned his presidential bid last summer, Texas Congressman Ron Paul’s star continues to brighten. Once shunned by the mainstream media and marginalized by the national leadership of the Republican Party, the modest pediatrician-turned-congressman has become something of an éminence grise these days, feted and fawned over by the likes of Fox News, which once dismissed him as a quack.

The reason? Dr. Paul’s unexpected fundraising prowess during his presidential campaign turned more than a few heads, and the bestseller status of his book The Revolution: A Manifesto attracted further attention. But besides the growth of his Campaign for Liberty and the swelling ranks of followers, recent events have proven Congressman Paul right time and time again. What once seemed to those with no understanding of so-called “Austrian economics” as dour paranoia has turned out to be spot on, as the Mother of All Speculative Bubbles has imploded.

(Excerpt) Read more at thenewamerican.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 111th; campaignforliberty; cfl; economy; federalreserve; jbs; libertarians; lp; lping; realconservatives; ronpaul

1 posted on 05/06/2009 5:01:19 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: djsherin; bamahead
A funny thing has started happening to Paul since his long-shot presidential campaign ended quietly in the summer of 2008. More Republicans have started listening to him.

Ping!

2 posted on 05/06/2009 5:01:35 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385; djsherin; bamahead; murphE; Extremely Extreme Extremist; Captain Kirk; Gondring; ...

Ron Paul Ping


3 posted on 05/06/2009 5:04:20 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: rabscuttle385

My problem with him is that I listened too much.


4 posted on 05/06/2009 5:04:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: rabscuttle385

In before the paleo haters.


5 posted on 05/06/2009 5:04:51 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: rabscuttle385

bump


6 posted on 05/06/2009 5:06:28 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (The War on Poverty is over. Poverty won. - Howie Carr)
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To: rabscuttle385

It would have been interesting if his message came from someone with a better delivery. While he was right to be gloomy his style just isn’t going to win. But if you find someone with that message who can deliver it in a positive manner you will have a winner.


7 posted on 05/06/2009 5:06:48 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: mysterio

What is up to now .0000000002% of the vote?


8 posted on 05/06/2009 5:08:08 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: mysterio

I just love it when people who consider themselves to be reasoned, adopt the talking points of the left.

Haters? Good grief...


9 posted on 05/06/2009 5:08:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: Mr. Blonde

Ron Paul doesn’t have the charisma to win. His views has a better chance if he teams up with Palin. Educate her about his views


10 posted on 05/06/2009 5:09:16 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: rabscuttle385
Conservative Libertarianism, yes. Ron Paul as the leader/spokesman, no.

Ron Paul is way too kooky, and he earmarked himself $400M in Porkulus.

11 posted on 05/06/2009 5:09:30 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: rabscuttle385

***Bachmann recently took both Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner to issue on the constitutionality of their actions.***

What a great clip that was. Geithner is a joke. A tax cheat that says we’re going to go after tax cheats. He can’t even come up with an answer as to where he gets the authority to do what he’s doing. Most people at least would have said the Interstate Commerce Clause or the Necessary and Proper Clause (though they would still be wrong). He just stumbled and sounded like a moron.

I’m glad to see Bachmann taking an interest in Austrian economics and Thomas Wood’s book, Meltdown. Hopefully we can get some more people up there that don’t blame this crisis on capitalism. And hopefully they can make the case that we haven’t really been practicing capitalism for a long time.


12 posted on 05/06/2009 5:13:17 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: Mr. Blonde

I tend to agree. I feel like in all the clips I watch him in, he tries to say too much. Obviously I understand why, but it males it difficult to convey a single point strongly. We need a Daniel Hannan IMO.


13 posted on 05/06/2009 5:15:26 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Say what you will but when the Nov crash came, Paul proved his prescience.


14 posted on 05/06/2009 5:15:59 PM PDT by blackminorca
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To: DTogo

***Ron Paul is way too kooky, and he earmarked himself $400M in Porkulus.***

And why would the leadership (or whoever) approve these earmarks. It doesn’t make sense to me. They know he’s going to vote against the bill so why not give that money to people who are actually going to vote yes? The money is already appropriated so I understand why he submits requests (though I wish he wouldn’t), but why are his requests approved?


15 posted on 05/06/2009 5:18:36 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: rabscuttle385

well,he is right on some things,would be great in a cabinet post,he is not presidential material. I will always remember people being corralled by the media,that mccain was a contender and I can’t help thinking they will start early to do it again.They are setting up,or will set up a conservative/libertarian that will be CRUSHED in a general election,and laugh at us till the cows come home.They used a moderate first,but resistance is growing against moderates,no matter how much they push it,so the logical thing is to give us what we think we want instead of what history and common sense say we need, someone who talks the talk and can’t win,we need new people who can win!


16 posted on 05/06/2009 5:21:36 PM PDT by coalman (type to slow to be relevant,but I try)
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To: mysterio

How about the people who hate anti-semites? Ron Paul is a Nazi.


17 posted on 05/06/2009 5:21:47 PM PDT by Jeb21 (www.jewsagainstobama.com)
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To: rabscuttle385
My problem with him was giving aid and comfort to the enemy...otherwise I am a bit libertarian (small l)and a bit conservative. Individual freedoms being paramount, but not necessarily during times of war.

Ron Paul's Influence Grows

Obama will make anybody look good.

18 posted on 05/06/2009 5:23:48 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Jeb21

“Ron Paul is a Nazi.”
And you are F.O.S.!


19 posted on 05/06/2009 5:26:04 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: 4rcane
Ron Paul doesn’t have the charisma to win.

What does that say about the frigging idiots who vote for a candidate that has charisma instead of a known track record... Voting for charisma is what got the country Obama.

20 posted on 05/06/2009 5:28:06 PM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: rabscuttle385

Not really. But we are a big tent party, after all. ;)


21 posted on 05/06/2009 5:31:48 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

Ron Paul will never be President. Get a new idol.


22 posted on 05/06/2009 5:33:16 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ron Paul is a libertarian that has to be in the Republican Party to get elected. His economic ideas are fine, but the rest of it is off in kook land. And I LIKE THE GUY. He’s just not presidential material. He was my congressman for several years, and I voted for him, but when you talk of war, he’s not the guy. He is a zealot that would have us actually follow the Constitution. What’s up with that? Square peg in a round hole.


23 posted on 05/06/2009 5:49:58 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: sageb1

But it took Goldwater to start a movement.


24 posted on 05/06/2009 5:51:27 PM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: chuckles
He is a zealot that would have us actually follow the Constitution.

And you have a problem with that?

25 posted on 05/06/2009 5:51:43 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: BnBlFlag

He had a photo-op with the founder of Stormfront. He’s the most anti-Israel member of the House next to Dennis Kucinich. He said Israel killed “innocent civilians” in the Lebanon War and that America was also responsible because she sold her weapons! He doesn’t think Irans nuclear program should be destroyed, he’d rather we left it alone. His positions promote a second Holocaust! Ron Paul is a Nazi.


26 posted on 05/06/2009 5:53:22 PM PDT by Jeb21 (www.jewsagainstobama.com)
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To: rabscuttle385

In after paleo hating sloganeers.


27 posted on 05/06/2009 6:02:16 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: AvOrdVet

You need someone with charisma, salesman skills to educate ppl of your views. It doesn’t matter if you’re the smartest person in the room who’s also a bore when listening to


28 posted on 05/06/2009 6:28:05 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: rabscuttle385
Yeah except the idiot missed the committee meeting on oversight of TARP.

Good Job.

29 posted on 05/06/2009 6:32:09 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: rabscuttle385

That was sarcasm.


30 posted on 05/06/2009 6:35:20 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: rabscuttle385

Yeah his influence sure grows, he’s the only republican Cindy Sheehan can stomach. Birds of a feather.

Saturday, May 10, 2008
Cindy Sheehan endorses Ron Paul over Barack Obama

http://wigdersonlibrarypub.blogspot.com/2008/05/cindy-sheehan-endorses-ron-paul-over.html

and earlier:

Sheehan: “I don’t want to even discuss who is likely to be the Republican nominee, because besides having little foreign policy difference between any of them and Hillary, anyone of them would be a complete disaster on matters of war and peace, with the possible exception of Ron Paul (Tx).”

http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1590/t/523/blog/comments.jsp?key=346&blog_entry_KEY=21045&t


31 posted on 05/06/2009 6:39:25 PM PDT by tlb
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To: sageb1
Ron Paul will never be President. Get a new idol.

That wasn't Dr. Paul's goal anyway.

- Tea Parties? Those were born in the Ron Paul campaign
- His campaign was 2nd only to Obama's in Internet fundraising, grassroots organizing, and political presence (Where were the bloggers and grassroots support for the other Republican candidates?)

- Sarah Palin likes him - LINK

32 posted on 05/06/2009 7:17:42 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: rabscuttle385; bamahead
I think Paul should be the next Republican "leader". He's the only one that makes sense now, while not having a ton of political baggage his neck. He can connect with religious voters from a small government point of view and he's dead on with all other domestic policies. I tend to disagree with him on some foreign policy issues, but no one is perfect. He DOES need to work on his speech delivery in a big way though.

He sure beats the hell out of everyone else out there that is perceived to be a republican "leader"...

33 posted on 05/06/2009 7:37:18 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn

Oh HELL no....


34 posted on 05/06/2009 7:50:25 PM PDT by Crim
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To: Crim
"Oh HELL no...."

Oh, come on. You held your nose and voted for McCain didn't you? At least with Paul, you would agree with him on most things.

35 posted on 05/06/2009 7:58:58 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: rabscuttle385

Paul is good on most domestic issues (not earmarks), but his foreign policy is indefensible, a deal breaker.


36 posted on 05/06/2009 8:10:05 PM PDT by DangerZone (RINOs rather lose with a liberal candidate than win with a conservative one.)
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To: KoRn

Nope...I voted for the number two in the hopes McCain would have a stroke....

sorry...I’m brutally honest....

Ron Paul and I part ways on the battle of the barbary coast.

According to Ron pauls logic....jefferson sending the navy to fight the Islamic pirates without congressional approval would be illegal......

Jefferson sent them...and “informed” congress later....

Quote:
“It is not our job to remove Saddam Hussein- that is the job of the Iraqi people. It is not our job to remove the Taliban- that is the business of the Afghan people”

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2001/cr112901.htm

I dont agree with Paul on the time of day...

Anyone who has the loyalty of 9/11 truthers is no hero of mine...


38 posted on 05/06/2009 11:22:40 PM PDT by Crim
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To: Crim

I love Jefferson and I am an avid reader of his material. Ron Paul is nothing compared to him...NOTHING! I would say the same about almost all the present day politicians, but I just have to reinforce that.

I don’t hate the man, but I don’t understand why some people adore him.


39 posted on 05/06/2009 11:33:51 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: Rick_Michael

Me neither....

Who would send those marines today?

Ron paul wouldnt....Palin would...


40 posted on 05/06/2009 11:37:49 PM PDT by Crim
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To: 4rcane
You need someone with charisma

Yeah... that must be why the GOP keeps winning... If people would pry themselves away from American Idol or Entertainment Tonight for a few minutes maybe they can make a choice that's good for the country instead of good for themselves.

41 posted on 05/07/2009 2:47:37 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: Crim
Who would send those marines today?

Most of the places the Marines would be sent these days are not places we should be! We need to stop being the worlds police force and take care of our own house FIRST!

42 posted on 05/07/2009 2:53:11 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: Rick_Michael
I love Jefferson and I am an avid reader of his material. Ron Paul is nothing compared to him...NOTHING!

If the founders, including Jefferson came back today, who do you think they would see as more of an ally that bases their actions on the Constitution... Ron Paul, or any of the other idiots currently on the scene... The choice would be pretty clear.

Like his stances or not... He is the closest you will get to a politician actually following Constitutional principles.

43 posted on 05/07/2009 3:02:53 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: AvOrdVet

“Most of the places the Marines would be sent these days are not places we should be!”

You mean the the coast of somalia?

“We need to stop being the worlds police force and take care of our own house FIRST!”

Ah yes...like Ron Paul eh?

It’s up the people of Iraq to do something about saddam...

It’s up the people of afganistan to do something about the taliban....

It’s up the people of germany to do something about hitler......

It’s up the people of Japan to get rid of the emperor....

Oh...the logic kinda falls apart there...


44 posted on 05/07/2009 5:54:56 AM PDT by Crim
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To: KoRn

He’s making a HELL of a lot more sense and impact than the GOP leadership right now...that’s for sure.

They are completely clueless...


45 posted on 05/07/2009 6:16:15 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: golfisnr1

...Bravo, If I was into hero or idol worship, Goldwater would be on top of the list...


46 posted on 05/07/2009 7:59:50 AM PDT by gargoyle (...66.7% , A good round number...)
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To: Crim
It’s up the people of Iraq to do something about saddam... It’s up the people of afganistan to do something about the taliban.... It’s up the people of germany to do something about hitler... It’s up the people of Japan to get rid of the emperor... Oh...the logic kinda falls apart there...

The reason we are in our current position, Constitutionally, is that the government injects its self in matters that do not have any direct national security concerns to the United States. and as usual people such as yourself start throwing out the 'ole straw dogs...

...Each one of the conflicts you just listed have or had a direct impact on our national security, I could go on to list many of the "missions" the military have been given that have no such vital impact and should be dealt with by other countries, but I'm sure you would try to find some remote justification... just as the government usually does.

47 posted on 05/07/2009 9:25:22 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: AvOrdVet

Ron paul says iraq invasion illegal...

I cant help it if your werent paying attention.

Educate yourself.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/521246/posts

http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-wmd-secreted-in-syria-sada-says/26514/

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1717571.ece

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1875113/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1974810/posts

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120631495290958169.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks

http://www.jaynadavis.com/story090502-wsj1.html

http://frontpagemag.com/Printable.aspx?ArtId=4817

CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER.


48 posted on 05/07/2009 10:18:33 AM PDT by Crim
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To: Crim
Ron paul says iraq invasion illegal... I cant help it if your werent paying attention. Educate yourself.

Making stupid ASSumptions, such as that I support Ron Pauls views on Iraq is what will make you look like an idiot. Especially since I have already pointed out in my last post that the Iraq war was in our national interest.

As with any politician, someone can disagree with some of their stances but still support the candidate, no one has the perfect magic bullet. But if you want to get back to a Constitutional Government as a lot of you purport, then you must know and understand that the Founders were non-interventionist... period. There is no gray area, attack if only if you are attacked.

So, please save the petty attempts at self-aggrandizing to yourself.

49 posted on 05/07/2009 10:41:48 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: AvOrdVet

Interesting logic basis to say the least...


50 posted on 05/07/2009 12:46:40 PM PDT by Crim
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