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Posted on 05/06/2009 6:47:02 PM PDT by dvan

Islam has figured out how to take over the world in just a few decades and, if the report is accurate, there's precious little that can be done to prevent that from happening.

What am I talking about? Watch this five-minute video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: birthrate; culture; islam

1 posted on 05/06/2009 6:47:03 PM PDT by dvan
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To: dvan

O M G


2 posted on 05/06/2009 6:57:29 PM PDT by unkus
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I note that the fertility rate for the US goes up to the required 2.11 children per couple once the incoming Latino population is factored in.

If you had to choose between speaking Spanish and still living in a Christian American/Mexican hybrid society or praying towards Mecca which would you pick?

Anybody got any thoughts on that?

It’s just a question that sort of jumped out at me from watching the video.


3 posted on 05/06/2009 7:01:52 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
After watching the vid, you can then read this report and perhaps not worry so much...
4 posted on 05/06/2009 7:04:40 PM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: dvan

You’ll have to read this to the end to understand that it is very much on the topic.

While channel-surfing recently, I stopped for a moment on a show featuring two lesbian roommates. As I watched them, I began pondering the question of the growing impact of homosexuals and radicals on our culture.

None of these thoughts are original to me and all have been written about and discussed ad nauseam. This little rant is really an exercise in catharsis.

At the individual level, I have personally known a few homosexuals and, in general, have found them to be quiet, respectful and intelligent. There are exceptions – such as the moron homo cited below — but I haven’t personally met them and probably won’t.

Having said that, I fear that the homosexual – and the recent politically correct fervor to further legitimize that lifestyle – has done irreparable harm to our NATIONAL life and what remains of what many of us still call Western European Culture. When that impact is coupled with the rise of radical feminism, the product is a result from which the West may never recover.

Allow me to explain:

The simple physiological fact is that homosexuals CANNOT reproduce. The current population replacement rate – the rate necessary to maintain the current native born population level — for the United States is somewhere north of 2 children per couple. Homosexuals don’t HAVE kids. Add the radical feminist impact – which holds that motherhood is some form of slavery and has driven many women to seek “fulfillment” OUTSIDE the home — and the current birth rate here is disturbingly FAR BELOW 2.1 per couple.

The other side of the demographic coin is that the virtually unrestrained immigration policies of past administrations have brought a huge influx of people from cultures radically different from that which existed here prior to the advent of PC, diversity, tolerance and all the other names by which many now call these self, nation and culture destroying behaviors. Add the millions and millions of illegals who are now placing such a physical and economic burden on the healthcare and school system that natural born citizens are being taxed to death or cannot, themselves, get the services to which they would otherwise be entitled and it’s a recipe for chaos. And the government turns a blind eye.

The effect of these factors is that the America in which many of us older folks grew up is disappearing at an alarming rate. As the nation many of us came to love – and donned uniforms to defend – drifts toward some sort of Balkanized
Despotism, large segments of these new arrivals – who know little and care less of the traditions, values and history of this place and even refuse to learn the common tongue — separate themselves into ghetto-like enclaves where outsiders are often not welcomed unless they’re spending money. We run the very serious risk of repeating the experiences of the former Yugoslavia from which some of my people came.

Speaking of whom, my great-great grandparents waited for years then stood in long lines at Ellis Island to be deloused, interrogated and told they had to learn English and our history and traditions and pass a test – something the Hispanics and radical Muslim terrorists strolling across the border with Mexico don’ t have to do.

The Clinton administration – well known for its tolerance of the gay lifestyle – published some statistics in connection with AIDS that startled many. Of course, the PC then rearing its ugly head prohibited all but the brave from commenting on any of that.

The CDC statistics showed that 85% of all AIDS/HIV cases are
1. Active, non-monogamous homosexuals,
(the largest subset)
2. Heterosexuals and bisexuals who have had sex with group 1 and
3. IV drug abusers who share needles.
(Kinda gives new meaning to Romans 6:23, doesn’t it?)
The remaining 15% are those who have contracted AIDS via other,
non-sexual/non-drug means SUCH AS TRANSFUSIONS OF TAINTED BLOOD (which one homosexual “leader” on the West Coast URGED his fellow homosexuals to CONTINUE to attempt to contaminate in order to involve the straight community in the push to increase federal funding for AIDS research).

So, with the population replacement rate practically down to zero, we have the “leaders” of the homosexual community – who can do nothing to help raise that rate – encouraging their members to make ill or kill those of us who have and/or are having and raising kids here.

I find it fascinating that many members of the homosexual community and the radical feminists are on the front line of the assault on traditional values and seek to replace them with more tolerance, diversity and other politically correct nonsense. They have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

While their activities have produced short-term benefits for them, that diversity, tolerance and egalitarianism have also opened the door to the idea that no culture is “better” than any other. Obama – apparently having confused Chicago with America — spent days recently apologizing to everyone he met for our defective, decadent and corrupt culture.

And that has brought to our shores a formerly foreign culture, the more radical elements of which are breeding at a rate well in excess of the rate among the indigenous population.

And, just as it already has in Great Britain and continental Europe, with those increasing numbers will come increased political and social power.

And with that will surely come a foreign theology and law system.

And that foreign theology – that’s be Islam— and law system – that’s be Sharia — DOES NOT TOLERATE HOMOSEXUALITY and regards WOMEN AS CHATTEL WHO HAVE NO PERSONAL RIGHTS LET ALONE THE SORT OF FREEDOM TO WHICH THE FEMINISTS ARE ACCUSTOMED.

The bottom line, gays and ladies? Keep on keeping on and you are sure to
1. fall under the headsman’s sword or
2. wind up staying in the house unless your man wants to take you somewhere, but only if you are garbed from head to toe. Did I mention that a man can probably rape and/or kill you and suffer no penalty?

So there you have it.

I’d urge you to think about these things while there MIGHT still be time to alter course.

PS: I had to get this out of my system BEFORE the new, improved congress passes the pending legislation making it a crime to post ANYTHING on the web that could in any way cause ANYONE emotional distress. Would it matter that it was factual? Nope! While it’s probable that the Supremes will rule it a violation of the First Amendment, I’d rather not squander my kids’ small inheritance on lawyers bringing the case.


5 posted on 05/06/2009 7:07:12 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Prodigal Son

HOW ABOUT NEITHER!

While channel-surfing recently, I stopped for a moment on a show featuring two lesbian roommates. As I watched them, I began pondering the question of the growing impact of homosexuals and radicals on our culture.

None of these thoughts are original to me and all have been written about and discussed ad nauseam. This little rant is really an exercise in catharsis.

At the individual level, I have personally known a few homosexuals and, in general, have found them to be quiet, respectful and intelligent. There are exceptions – such as the moron homo cited below — but I haven’t personally met them and probably won’t.

Having said that, I fear that the homosexual – and the recent politically correct fervor to further legitimize that lifestyle – has done irreparable harm to our NATIONAL life and what remains of what many of us still call Western European Culture. When that impact is coupled with the rise of radical feminism, the product is a result from which the West may never recover.

Allow me to explain:

The simple physiological fact is that homosexuals CANNOT reproduce. The current population replacement rate – the rate necessary to maintain the current native born population level — for the United States is somewhere north of 2 children per couple. Homosexuals don’t HAVE kids. Add the radical feminist impact – which holds that motherhood is some form of slavery and has driven many women to seek “fulfillment” OUTSIDE the home — and the current birth rate here is disturbingly FAR BELOW 2.1 per couple.

The other side of the demographic coin is that the virtually unrestrained immigration policies of past administrations have brought a huge influx of people from cultures radically different from that which existed here prior to the advent of PC, diversity, tolerance and all the other names by which many now call these self, nation and culture destroying behaviors. Add the millions and millions of illegals who are now placing such a physical and economic burden on the healthcare and school system that natural born citizens are being taxed to death or cannot, themselves, get the services to which they would otherwise be entitled and it’s a recipe for chaos. And the government turns a blind eye.

The effect of these factors is that the America in which many of us older folks grew up is disappearing at an alarming rate. As the nation many of us came to love – and donned uniforms to defend – drifts toward some sort of Balkanized
Despotism, large segments of these new arrivals – who know little and care less of the traditions, values and history of this place and even refuse to learn the common tongue — separate themselves into ghetto-like enclaves where outsiders are often not welcomed unless they’re spending money. We run the very serious risk of repeating the experiences of the former Yugoslavia from which some of my people came.

Speaking of whom, my great-great grandparents waited for years then stood in long lines at Ellis Island to be deloused, interrogated and told they had to learn English and our history and traditions and pass a test – something the Hispanics and radical Muslim terrorists strolling across the border with Mexico don’ t have to do.

The Clinton administration – well known for its tolerance of the gay lifestyle – published some statistics in connection with AIDS that startled many. Of course, the PC then rearing its ugly head prohibited all but the brave from commenting on any of that.

The CDC statistics showed that 85% of all AIDS/HIV cases are
1. Active, non-monogamous homosexuals,
(the largest subset)
2. Heterosexuals and bisexuals who have had sex with group 1 and
3. IV drug abusers who share needles.
(Kinda gives new meaning to Romans 6:23, doesn’t it?)
The remaining 15% are those who have contracted AIDS via other,
non-sexual/non-drug means SUCH AS TRANSFUSIONS OF TAINTED BLOOD (which one homosexual “leader” on the West Coast URGED his fellow homosexuals to CONTINUE to attempt to contaminate in order to involve the straight community in the push to increase federal funding for AIDS research).

So, with the population replacement rate practically down to zero, we have the “leaders” of the homosexual community – who can do nothing to help raise that rate – encouraging their members to make ill or kill those of us who have and/or are having and raising kids here.

I find it fascinating that many members of the homosexual community and the radical feminists are on the front line of the assault on traditional values and seek to replace them with more tolerance, diversity and other politically correct nonsense. They have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

While their activities have produced short-term benefits for them, that diversity, tolerance and egalitarianism have also opened the door to the idea that no culture is “better” than any other. Obama – apparently having confused Chicago with America — spent days recently apologizing to everyone he met for our defective, decadent and corrupt culture.

And that has brought to our shores a formerly foreign culture, the more radical elements of which are breeding at a rate well in excess of the rate among the indigenous population.

And, just as it already has in Great Britain and continental Europe, with those increasing numbers will come increased political and social power.

And with that will surely come a foreign theology and law system.

And that foreign theology – that’s be Islam— and law system – that’s be Sharia — DOES NOT TOLERATE HOMOSEXUALITY and regards WOMEN AS CHATTEL WHO HAVE NO PERSONAL RIGHTS LET ALONE THE SORT OF FREEDOM TO WHICH THE FEMINISTS ARE ACCUSTOMED.

The bottom line, gays and ladies? Keep on keeping on and you are sure to
1. fall under the headsman’s sword or
2. wind up staying in the house unless your man wants to take you somewhere, but only if you are garbed from head to toe. Did I mention that a man can probably rape and/or kill you and suffer no penalty?

So there you have it.

I’d urge you to think about these things while there MIGHT still be time to alter course.

PS: I had to get this out of my system BEFORE the new, improved congress passes the pending legislation making it a crime to post ANYTHING on the web that could in any way cause ANYONE emotional distress. Would it matter that it was factual? Nope! While it’s probable that the Supremes will rule it a violation of the First Amendment, I’d rather not squander my kids’ small inheritance on lawyers bringing the case.


6 posted on 05/06/2009 7:08:07 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: dvan
If you google Muslim fertility it seems to show much better statistics then what this video is showing. almost all of the sites I saw say Muslim fertility is declining. They are now only producing one child per couple more than Europeans. so this video is highly questionable on some of its basic numbers. Still letting Muslims and Mexicans come into our r country at these high numbers is not very bright.
7 posted on 05/06/2009 7:11:42 PM PDT by bilhosty (Tax payers for change)
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To: dvan

Christianity is out growing Islam for the last 30 years.

It’s about 3.2 billion to 2 billion. Muslims like to drastically over estimate their numbers and adherence. It’s called propaganda.

They are getting crushed globally. That is why they ate putting suicide vests. It’s over.

Islam available to anyone who learns Arabic.

Christianity available in 128 languages. It’s all over except the shouting.

Demographics are slowing rapidly in me.


8 posted on 05/06/2009 7:17:44 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: Dick Bachert

Dude, I didn’t read past the first two paragraphs of your post.


9 posted on 05/06/2009 7:27:29 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: C210N

I didn’t say I was worried. I’m just one of those people that like to ask ‘what if?’ questions. It’s an interesting thought experiment/game. I know hypotheticals aren’t received all that well here at FR and knew that before I asked it. I just thought there might be someone out there willing to throw ideas around instead of screaming or raving (not pointing fingers or names ;-).

Am reading your link now. Thank you for that. That shall keep me entertained for a while.


10 posted on 05/06/2009 7:31:19 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: C210N

Actually, now that I’ve gone through it, I realise, I’ve read that one before- or one very similar to it. It reflects my own view. Demographics and cultural change are very complex phenomena. I find these sort of ‘hype videos’ entertaining for their scare factor but they aren’t much good for serious discussion.

I think it is very difficult to reckon what the world’s going to look like in 30+ years. Too many chaotic equations in the equation.

Still, thanks for the link. That’s a keeper.


11 posted on 05/06/2009 7:47:01 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son

that should read- ‘chaotic elements in the equation’


12 posted on 05/06/2009 7:48:33 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Dick Bachert

An excellent post. Thank you!


13 posted on 05/06/2009 7:58:23 PM PDT by dvan (Send Them Home!)
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To: dvan

TYVM. Appreciate the kind words. Prodigal Son thought it sucked. :-))


14 posted on 05/06/2009 8:35:26 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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