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The World Upside Down: Homosexuals and Feminists
Self ^ | 5-6-09 | Dick Bachert

Posted on 05/07/2009 7:52:51 AM PDT by Dick Bachert

While channel-surfing recently, I stopped for a moment on a show featuring two lesbian roommates. As I watched them, I began pondering the question of the growing impact of homosexuals and radical feminists on our culture.

None of these thoughts are original to me and all have been written about and discussed ad nauseam. This little rant is really an exercise in catharsis.

At the individual level, I have personally known a few homosexuals and, in general, have found them to be quiet, respectful and intelligent. There are exceptions – such as the moron homo cited below -- but I haven’t personally met them and probably won’t.

Having said that, I fear that the homosexual – and the recent politically correct fervor to further legitimize that lifestyle – has done irreparable harm to our NATIONAL life and what remains of what many of us still call Western European Culture. When that impact is coupled with the rise of radical feminism, the product is a result from which the West may never recover. Allow me to explain:

The simple physiological fact is that homosexuals CANNOT reproduce. The current population replacement rate – the rate necessary to maintain the current native born population level -- for the United States is somewhere north of 2 children per couple. Homosexuals don’t HAVE kids. Add the radical feminist impact – which holds that motherhood is some form of slavery and has driven many women to seek “fulfillment” OUTSIDE the home -- and the current birth rate here is disturbingly FAR BELOW 2.1 per couple.

The other side of the demographic coin is that the virtually unrestrained immigration policies of past administrations have brought a huge influx of people from cultures radically different from that which existed here prior to the advent of PC, diversity, tolerance and all the other names by which many now call these self, nation and culture destroying behaviors. Add the millions and millions of illegals who are now placing such a physical and economic burden on the healthcare and school systems that natural born citizens are being taxed to death and/or cannot, themselves, get the services to which they would otherwise be entitled and it’s a recipe for chaos. And the politicians – who hope these new welfare recipients will support their perpetual reelection -- turn a blind eye.

And as these groups agitate and campaign for THEIR particular flavor of diversity and tolerance, they also give added traction to virtually EVERY OTHER flavor. As they change millions of minds and cause others to reconsider long-standing and time-tested value systems, they are turning our world upside down.

The effect of these factors is that the America in which many of us older folks grew up is disappearing at an alarming rate. As the nation many of us came to love – and donned uniforms to defend – drifts toward some sort of Balkanized Despotism, large segments of these new arrivals – who know little and care less of the traditions, values and history of this place and even refuse to learn the common tongue -- separate themselves into ghetto-like enclaves where outsiders are often not welcomed unless they’re spending money. We run the very serious risk of repeating the experiences of the former Yugoslavia from which some of my people came.

Speaking of whom, my great-great grandparents waited for years then stood in long lines at Ellis Island to be deloused, interrogated and told they had to learn English and our history and traditions and pass a test – something the Hispanics and radical Muslim terrorists strolling across the border with Mexico don’ t have to do.

The Clinton administration – well known for its tolerance of the gay lifestyle – published some statistics in connection with AIDS that startled many. Of course, the PC then rearing its ugly head prohibited all but the brave from commenting on any of that.

The CDC statistics showed that 85% of all AIDS/HIV cases are 1. Active, non-monogamous homosexuals, (the largest subset) 2. Heterosexuals and bisexuals who have had sex with group 1 and 3. IV drug abusers who share needles. (Kinda gives new meaning to Romans 6:23, doesn't it?) The remaining 15% are those who have contracted AIDS via other, non-sexual/non-drug means SUCH AS TRANSFUSIONS OF TAINTED BLOOD (which one homosexual "leader" on the West Coast URGED his fellow homosexuals to CONTINUE to attempt to contaminate in order to involve the straight community in the push to increase federal funding for AIDS research).

So, with the population replacement rate practically down to zero, we have the “leaders” of the homosexual community – who can do nothing to help raise that rate – encouraging their members to make ill or kill those of us who have and/or are having and raising kids here.

I find it fascinating that many members of the homosexual community and the radical feminists are on the front line of the assault on traditional values and seek to replace them with more tolerance, diversity and other politically correct nonsense. They have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

While their activities have produced short-term benefits for them, that diversity, tolerance and egalitarianism have also opened the door to the idea that no culture is “better” than any other. Obama – apparently having confused Chicago with America -- spent days recently apologizing to everyone he met for our defective, decadent and corrupt culture.

And that has brought to our shores a formerly foreign culture, the more radical elements of which are breeding at a rate well in excess of the rate among the indigenous population.

And, just as it already has in Great Britain and continental Europe, with those increasing numbers will come increased political and social power.

And with that will come a foreign ideology and law system.

And that foreign theology – that’d be Islam-- and law system – that’d be Sharia -- DOES NOT TOLERATE HOMOSEXUALITY and regards WOMEN AS CHATTEL WHO HAVE NO PERSONAL RIGHTS LET ALONE THE SORT OF FREEDOM TO WHICH THE FEMINISTS ARE ACCUSTOMED.

The bottom line, gays and ladies? You will: 1. fall under the headsman’s sword and/or 2. be confined to the house unless your man wants to take you somewhere, but only if you are garbed from head to toe. Did I mention that a man can probably rape and/or kill you and suffer no penalty?

So there you have it.

I’d urge you to think about these things while there MIGHT still be time to alter course.

PS: I had to get this out of my system BEFORE the new, improved congress passes the pending legislation making it a crime to post ANYTHING on the web that could in any way cause ANYONE emotional distress. Would it matter that it was factual? Nope! While it’s probable that the Supremes will rule it a violation of the First Amendment, I’d rather not squander my kids’ small inheritance on lawyers bringing the case.


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Let the FLAMES begin!
1 posted on 05/07/2009 7:52:52 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert
As I watched them, I began pondering the question of the growing impact of homosexuals and radical feminists on our culture.

No flames from me. Its obvious these two types dominate the newsrooms of the major media. It explains the incessant fixation on stories related to their issues.

2 posted on 05/07/2009 7:55:30 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Dick Bachert
I stopped for a moment on a show featuring two lesbian roommates

Yah, I'll bet you did..

3 posted on 05/07/2009 7:56:12 AM PDT by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: Dick Bachert
I stopped for a moment on a show featuring two lesbian roommates. As I watched them

They let you watch?

4 posted on 05/07/2009 7:57:05 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Dick Bachert

No flame here. Thought it was a good read. Thanks!


5 posted on 05/07/2009 7:57:24 AM PDT by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: Dick Bachert

That’s the problem...the “flames” have begun and they are gaining momentum!


6 posted on 05/07/2009 7:57:44 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: skeeter

One is unable to procreate, the other, unwilling to give birth. How is it there are still any of them left? We conservative married types have to do more to populate and overrun the nation since there is no competition in this arena from the other side as mentioned above. You wanna change the world, leave more people in it that believe as you do when you go........


7 posted on 05/07/2009 7:59:12 AM PDT by wombtotomb (ITS NOT ABOUT RIGHT VS. LEFT, ITS ABOUT RIGHT VS. WRONG!)
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To: Dick Bachert

DOES NOT TOLERATE HOMOSEXUALITY


8 posted on 05/07/2009 7:59:27 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Dick Bachert

We should publicly attack feminists for showing complete cowardice in the face of Islam. They are sensitive to such criticism but not enough to where they have really started doing anything that is not politically correct.

They still do not want to upset the apple cart belief that all cultures are equal and Mohammedanism is no worse than Christianity.


9 posted on 05/07/2009 8:01:40 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: wombtotomb
How is it there are still any of them left?

Two words - public schools.

10 posted on 05/07/2009 8:03:36 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Dick Bachert
[ Homosexuals and Feminists(radical or not) ]

There is a small difference?.. or non at all..

11 posted on 05/07/2009 8:04:52 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Dick Bachert

I would really like someone to put forth a list of quantifiable things homosexuals have done, and only they could have done because they are homosexual and not heterosexual, for this country, that are positive.

I really want to see what the list is. Because I don’t think anyone can point to anything of deep substance. At all. Lacking such a list, there is no evidence homosexuals are any benefit to this society in any way, shape or form.


12 posted on 05/07/2009 8:04:57 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Dick Bachert

It’s a tough crowd around here..... “As I watched[...]” Hmmmm.


13 posted on 05/07/2009 8:05:59 AM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: Dick Bachert

The woman named French who wrote The Woman’s Room and died this week, said that she wanted to overthrow the established system.

Bill Ayers said that the Weatherman engaged in free sex and he dabbled in homosexuality to “smash monogamy”.

This is a sick mindset. It isn’t because of “desires”, it is “revolution” against the establishment. And what “order” did they want to bring? Socialism.

Feh.


14 posted on 05/07/2009 8:06:13 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If Liberals are so upset over torture, why did they mock John McCains stiff arms during the campaign)
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To: wombtotomb

I think most homosexuals are smart enough to understand they can’t procreate. The question is how many want to ‘perpetuate’ themselves and how to accomplish that. As I see it they can 1) find a surrogate to bring ‘their’ child to term (with the donation of egg/sperm), 2) adopt or 3) recruit.


15 posted on 05/07/2009 8:08:06 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: Dick Bachert
2 things that G*D detests are
1. Homosexuality
2. Countries that do Israel wrong.

What are we becoming?

16 posted on 05/07/2009 8:09:07 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: Monterrosa-24

Feminists were cowards when it came to a serial rapist and habitual sexual harasser in the workplace. Why? Because he held the “right” view on abortion on demand.

They are also cowards when it comes to defending Sarah Palin and Miss California from men throwing the c**t word at them.

Then again, the self appointed “feminist” leaders in no way speak for the majority of self-empowered and confident and strong individual women.

NOW is just another PAC for liberalism. Women’s rights and protections are not on their agenda.

If it were, they would fight against abortionists who still run unlicensed clinics and who urge minors to lie when they are raped and those abortionists who repeatedly botch legal abortions.

They aren’t pro-women. They are pro-liberalism.


17 posted on 05/07/2009 8:09:38 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If Liberals are so upset over torture, why did they mock John McCains stiff arms during the campaign)
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To: Dick Bachert

>>> The simple physiological fact is that homosexuals CANNOT reproduce. <<<

Right. Like commies and other ideologues, they have to recruit. That’s why control of the public schools and mass media will become even MORE important in the coming years.

Don’t forget that habitual sodomy has become more than just a psychological condition. It’s a CAUSE.


18 posted on 05/07/2009 8:10:02 AM PDT by Poe White Trash
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To: wombtotomb

I have 3 kids and while I am 40 I have been thinking of having a couple of more kids .
My wife feels the same and both of us wish we had more kids when we were younger.
We’re also looking into adoption from America I might add as I see no reason why I should go overseas to get a child when there are kids here who need homes.

If we conservatives were having 5 to 8 kids then we’d be getting the majority no matter how many times the schools and hollywood try to brainwash our children.
We’d also make this be a christian conservative country

I have said time and time again but for some reason the pro homosexual group on here do not see this.
It is not about marriage as homos would have us believe it is about getting this marriage made law then getting kids by adoption, they then get homosexuality taught in the schools and thus making kids think it is normal and natural.

This is why homo groups target kids because they know that if they do not then what they have got not will go away in the future and so they target our children.


19 posted on 05/07/2009 8:10:31 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: devane617

Mea culpa. I shudda indicated that it was an ANIMAL PLANET show and they were NOT in the bedroom.


20 posted on 05/07/2009 8:12:15 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert

good article and we have to stop the homo groups from furthering their agenda with our kids.
They know that they can not have kids so they will push their agenda.

it is not about marriage, most of them do not want to get married, even the originals in MA who pushed their agenda there , half of them are now not together , it is about being made recognised and then they say they should get a hold of kids though fostering and adoption then then they say teach it in the schools

They know the children are the future and so they will target our kids , the kids we have naturally as nature and some would say God intended


21 posted on 05/07/2009 8:13:10 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: manc

I wouldn’t want to tell you and your wife what do with respect to that decision, but I’m not sure we’re headed into a time when you’ll want to bring more children into the world.


22 posted on 05/07/2009 8:14:49 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: a fool in paradise

“This is a sick mindset. It isn’t because of “desires”, it is “revolution” against the establishment”

So true. And why do they only want to destroy? Homosexuality is a direct disobedience to God and feminism is the result of too many Fathers not being their for their daughters. And those two groups won’t be the only ones beheaded once Islam becomes intrenched politicaly in this country. If you don’t convert....you die.


23 posted on 05/07/2009 8:15:05 AM PDT by happilymarriedmom
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To: Monterrosa-24

womans right groups are a crock.
where are they coming to Sarah when she was attacked?
where were they when they the left said that Sarah should stay at home to look after her kids while ignoring bozo’s wife swanning of to Europe for a trip to do nothing over there
Where are they for Miss Ca as she is being attacked?

woman’s rights is just another crock of a group by the left


24 posted on 05/07/2009 8:15:21 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Dick Bachert

No flames here. Just cold truth, well said.

Tatt


25 posted on 05/07/2009 8:16:17 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: happilymarriedmom

It was the French woman (name, not nationality) who declared that all men “rape”.


26 posted on 05/07/2009 8:16:37 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If Liberals are so upset over torture, why did they mock John McCains stiff arms during the campaign)
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To: Poe White Trash

The perpetual sodomy thing is a function of their obsession with their genitalia and the genitalia of others.

Not sure if their problem is caused by nature or nurture.

Given what’s at stake here, I really don’t give a you-know-what. They’re destroying what the Founders intended to be a shining city on a hill.


27 posted on 05/07/2009 8:17:06 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Poe White Trash

“The simple physiological fact is that homosexuals CANNOT reproduce” you ever heard of artificial insemination and Homosexual adoption?


28 posted on 05/07/2009 8:18:19 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: manc

Make the Left live by their own rules. Ask when is Barney Frank going to get married. Same question of Paris Hilton, who can get a civil union. Nothing would prevent him from getting married after first securing a civil union.

They don’t want monogamy. They want to compromise the definition of marriage.


29 posted on 05/07/2009 8:18:24 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If Liberals are so upset over torture, why did they mock John McCains stiff arms during the campaign)
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To: manc

Perez Hilton, not Paris. He was the one who raised a stink about not having the legal stance to marry another man.


30 posted on 05/07/2009 8:19:07 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If Liberals are so upset over torture, why did they mock John McCains stiff arms during the campaign)
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To: Dick Bachert
Feminism & uncloseted homosexuality are death to a civilization. They undermine a nation's will to survive and the result is its eventual overwhelming at the hands of people who have no interest in feminism or uncloseted homosexuality.

The West is in a free fall now and there's little we can do to stop it. We could have stopped it a couple of decades ago, but we were assured that all the feminists wanted was more job opportunities and all the homosexuals wanted was to be left alone in their bedrooms. We were also told that all the world's peoples are “just like us”, so we can admit millions of them and it won't make any difference. Conservatives fell for this. I've spent countless hours here at FR debating conservatives who will defend Third World immigrations, feminism, and even homosexual “rights” to their dying breath, insisting all three are compatible with conservatism and American traditions.

Well, they aren't. And we're about to find it out.

31 posted on 05/07/2009 8:20:04 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (REALLY & TRULY updated!).)
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To: Secret Agent Man

there is not one reason I can think of where homos contribute to this world, not one

Lets face it they just like and get turned on by having sex wit the same sex, it’s not about love as love my family but do not feel sexually attracted to them except my wife.

It is all about their sexual preference which for them great but do not tell me that because they are sexually turned by their same sex they should be married and have access to kids

some would say that God never intended for the same sex to have kids because they can not reproduce
others like the left would say nature and Darwin
well even nature never intended for two of the same sex to reproduce naturally.

They the homos serve no purpose at all on this planet and if one person or the homo trolls on here knows one reason please tell me.

nature intended for a species to carry on and reproduce two homos cannot do that


32 posted on 05/07/2009 8:20:24 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Dick Bachert

Hasn’t the mainstream “feminist” movement been completely co-opted by lesbians anyway? Feminist issues now in America are comprised of two things gay rights and abortion.


33 posted on 05/07/2009 8:20:40 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: Dick Bachert

Even some tenets of Islam might be acceptable to a degree. As it now stands, the sexual deviants and their homophilic representatives are about to pass laws, not unlike islam, that declare themselves a special people deserving of a higher level of legal protection. What the hell is the difference between islamofascism and homofascism?


34 posted on 05/07/2009 8:20:54 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: Dick Bachert

“The World Upside Down: Homosexuals and Feminists”

Is this a new reality show?............


35 posted on 05/07/2009 8:22:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (If Keynesian economics worked, Zimbabwe would be a superpower.......................)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Exactly! Imagine yourself king of a nation in which there is no homosexuality. Someone comes to you and tells you that your nation would benefit from having homosexuality within your borders. What possible argument could they give you for it?
36 posted on 05/07/2009 8:23:36 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (REALLY & TRULY updated!).)
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To: puroresu

I believe it was the early Romans who prohibited several classes of people from holding public office: Those of illegitimate birth (bastards), eunuchs and homosexuals.

Bastards were prohibited because, having no sense of their family past or history, they could not be trusted to operate for the good of the culture based on its history or traditions.

Eunuchs (castrated males) and homosexuals because they could not and/or would not sire children and would, therefore, most likely have no abiding interest in preserving the culture for future generations.

While there are a number of exceptions, I’ll let YOU tell me what sort of folks we have in public office HERE.

I suspect America has employed technology to compress into slightly over 240 years what it took the Romans over 2,000 to achieve — total and utter collapse.


37 posted on 05/07/2009 8:24:22 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: anniegetyourgun

we have thought about that and I do not mind that you brought this up.

I got my wife out of MA and brought her down here to north east FL. It is a better time, living etc for my family and for them to be raised.
As for more kids we ave thought about this more and more and though I am 40 and she is 36, we feel that maybe another child at least maybe by adoption would be a good move for us all.

I was brought up in foster homes and my wife was adopted though catholic charities, sadly the homosexuals stopped catholic charities from adopting kids out now in my wife’s old state.

believe me everything you have thought is what we have.
So long as we bring these kids up like we have with our other 3 we’ll be fine and so will they.
All grade a’s, honor roll students, top class, good work ethic and a belief in christian values etc etc

You know I asked my daughter last night this question

If you do really hard work and study all the time and you finally get all A’s you can go to get a good job but another girl never got your grades and never worked hard either for her c grade

Who should get that job / position at college you two both want?
she said her because she got the better grades
I told her no the other girl got it because she is black or another minority

My daughter at 8 said that is not fair why should she get it when she never worked hard and is not qualified for that job, it should not be based on color but on the grade you get

I said to my wife sad isn’t it that a girl of 8 can understand this and yet grown ups on the left fail to see it This just how dumb the left is and how insulting they are to minorities


38 posted on 05/07/2009 8:28:56 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: puroresu
The big lie is that homosexuality is about consenting adults in private. There would be no gay clubs in high schools and junior highs if it was truly JUST about adults. There would be no indoctrination of 2nd graders in same sex relationships (any more than you would expose them to descriptions of S&M dynamics, domination and submission).

Also there would be no declaration of marriage and public celebration in parades, workplace awareness, and overall "pride" month.

What goes on in the bedroom would remain "private".

This is a public agenda that is permissible for anyone of any age.

39 posted on 05/07/2009 8:31:29 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If Liberals are so upset over torture, why did they mock John McCains stiff arms during the campaign)
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To: a fool in paradise

agreed, all about an agenda to them and I wish those who do not care about the homosexual agenda would wake up

The kids are the future and they know this so they will first use marriage, then adoption, the teaching in schools .

These homosexuals ranting and harping on about marriage etc do not want to get married.


40 posted on 05/07/2009 8:31:58 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Dick Bachert

When your lifestyle guarantees the end of your lineage, why would you be concerned about future demographics?


41 posted on 05/07/2009 8:35:46 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: wombtotomb
We conservative married types have to do more to populate and overrun the nation since there is no competition in this arena from the other side.

Problem is we don't breed true.

42 posted on 05/07/2009 8:37:18 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Matthew 15:8 - 9)
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To: Red Badger

No, it’s a new ABC FANTASY SHOW, the fantasy being that we believed we could allow these creatures to have their way and NOT destroy America, the IDEA!


43 posted on 05/07/2009 8:38:57 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert
That's what's so amazing: The rapidness of our collapse. I suppose it's due to mass media spreading stupidity like a virus. Look how quickly millions of people have trashed the definition of marriage, and for no good reason.

It isn't as if some wise man came forward and said, "You know, we've been wrong all these past thousands of years about marriage being between people of the opposite sex. Here's a list of great things America could accomplish if we added same sex couples to the marriage roster."

No one said that because no one could come up with such a list. Instead, we're told that the traditional concept of marriage...in fact, the actual definition of marriage...is wrong because it doesn't allow deviants to participate. Nothing good comes from that deviancy. We're just told that an institution with obvious positive attributes, an institution necessary for civilization to survive, should be changed irrevocably to accommodate people whose relevant behavior is completely negative. And that's considered a good enough argument for maybe thirty or forty percent of the population to go along with it. We're dealing here with a populace that is increasingly made up of sheep with no ability to discern between constructive and destructive, to discriminate between good and bad.

The nations and civilizations which don't go along with this nonsense will be the ones to survive long term, namely East Asia, India, and the Muslim world.

44 posted on 05/07/2009 8:39:11 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (REALLY & TRULY updated!).)
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To: a fool in paradise

every argument the homosexuals use I can use for other groups
They serve no purpose on this planet at all and contribute nothing.
We as nature intended are here to keep our species alive , homosexuals therefore what they do is a unnatural act

if they say the bedroom their own 4 walls , then why are they wanting this in schools, why the need to go to public toilets and dog parks with strangers.

If they say well they are not hurting anyone and is not affecting me , well a man in his bedroom with his daughter is not hurting me, neither is the man who in sherborn MA(NO SURPRISE) was caught having sex with an animal.
The LDS is not hurting me and they keep it private in their bedroom.

About love, well so could a mother and a son say this, LDS church can say this, man with an animal can say this.
I love my sister but I feel no urge to have sex with her

every argument they use can be used for any kind of marriage and it would be interesting if the LDS church went to the north east like MA and said they wan their kind of marriage legalised.
Would the homosexuals stand by them , would the homosexuals say it is about civil rights?
No they would not

Why are not normal straight couples who are dating not getting civil unions?
The LDS church and others should go to court and get their marriage seen to . It is not something I want to see but if this is the only way for the people in this coiuntry to wake up then so be it and that would be the worst nightmare for homosexuals then


45 posted on 05/07/2009 8:40:07 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Dick Bachert
We are living in a time of moral or cultural relativism. In most part, it is a rejection of God, which is expressed in opposition to Christianity. Feminism, homosexuality, and atheism are joined at the hip. They have to reject the God of the Scriptures in order to promote their beliefs. We are living in a Neo-Pagan world, much as in the days of first century Christianity. Christendom is dead (not the same as Christianity). When you add social/philosophical Darwinianism in the mix, morality is simply an illusion. Dogs hunch other dogs, so why not people?
46 posted on 05/07/2009 8:45:42 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Dick Bachert

A reckless society, determined to self-destruct....


48 posted on 05/07/2009 8:48:07 AM PDT by thinking
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To: puroresu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0lR1KQq2-U


49 posted on 05/07/2009 8:52:12 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert
Eunuchs (castrated males) and homosexuals because they could not and/or would not sire children and would, therefore, most likely have no abiding interest in preserving the culture for future generations.

Interesting point....do you suppose that homosexuals are a suicidally cult....

50 posted on 05/07/2009 8:55:31 AM PDT by thinking
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