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Little Green Footballs - The Mainstreaming of Ron Paul (Barf)
Little Green Footballs ^ | 5-7-2009 | Charles Johnson

Posted on 05/08/2009 12:39:32 AM PDT by jmc813

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To: DoughtyOne
If you really want to find about JBS for yourself, you should read, "William F. Buckley, Jr., The Pied Piper for the Establishment" by John McManus.

Here is an informative review of the book here.

61 posted on 05/08/2009 7:28:53 AM PDT by Nephi (Like the failed promise of Fascism, masquerading as Capitalism? You're gonna love Marxism.)
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To: djsherin

If we could elect someone like Ron Paul with a conservative majorty in Congress, we could write a 2,000 page “emergency stimilus package” that no one has time to read and knock the socialists back to the stone age. We could knock the Feds back to the constitution and wreck the globalist agenda of treaties in two days.


62 posted on 05/08/2009 7:33:09 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: sbMKE

Then there’s the fact that if you don’t think our policy of handouts to poor Blacks generation after generation are a good thing, or you don’t think affirmative action is a good thing overall, you simply have to be racist in some folks’ eyes.

I’ve seen this smear so many times, it’s just a given anymore.


63 posted on 05/08/2009 7:33:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: sbMKE

Thanks for your comments sbMKE.


64 posted on 05/08/2009 7:34:00 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: PapaBear3625

That’s pretty much my take on it too. I have never attended any meetings though, so it wasn’t something I could say for sure. I’ve never seen an example of their literature that backed the charge that the org was racist, so I’ve never considered them to be.

I appreciate your comments.


65 posted on 05/08/2009 7:40:20 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Doing some googling for "John Birch" racism brings up some items which indicate that Leftists/Communists have tried to paint the JBS as a racist and antisemitic organization. To render an organization "beyond the pale", all that's needed is to make an accusation that they are racists, anti-semites, etc, with no real evidence being required.
66 posted on 05/08/2009 7:58:37 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: PapaBear3625

Thanks. That was my suspicion from the get go. I think you’re right from what others have been saying.


67 posted on 05/08/2009 8:00:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: SaraJohnson
We could knock the Feds back to the constitution and wreck the globalist agenda of treaties in two days.

The problem with that points out the difference between conservatives and leftists: American constitutionalists don't riot, burn down cities, and assassinate opponents when they lose.

68 posted on 05/08/2009 8:00:59 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: DoughtyOne
"..set me straight on the John Birch Society. It isn't a racist organization is it?"

No, the JBS is not a "racist" organization.

The idea comes from years ago when the MSM ran a smear campaign.

Clearly, Charles Johnson doesn't know anything about the JBS.

69 posted on 05/08/2009 8:33:55 AM PDT by Designer (We are SO scrood!)
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To: PapaBear3625
"Doing some googling for "John Birch" racism brings up some items which indicate that Leftists/Communists have tried to paint the JBS as a racist and antisemitic organization."

I don't know much about the JBS, other cringing reflexively when some one brought them up as an authoritative source.

But, it would not be a long shot to guess that the JBS supported States Rights during the Civil Rights era, opposing Johnson's Great Society federal actions. That, alone, could have gotten them branded "racists".

70 posted on 05/08/2009 8:38:30 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: sbMKE; DoughtyOne
"Entirely possible that there are some incidents with the membership back then, but I don’t see it in the organization now."

There is some vetting of new members, and any candidate who is racist is not accepted.

Furthermore, if any member is later found to be racist, his membership is revoked.

71 posted on 05/08/2009 8:43:59 AM PDT by Designer (We are SO scrood!)
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To: SaraJohnson
"If we could elect someone like Ron Paul with a conservative majorty in Congress, we could write a 2,000 page “emergency stimilus package” that no one has time to read and knock the socialists back to the stone age. We could knock the Feds back to the constitution and wreck the globalist agenda of treaties in two days."

You've got it!

But it would have to be "someone like Ron Paul, not RP himself because he's too old to run again -- and we'd need to fill Congress first so that we could get it past.

What makes me laugh is when neocons criticize the support RP gets, not just from Republicans, but from Democrats -- and Liberal ones, to boot. Don't they get that this is A GOOD THING given that he isn't compromising a single Constitutional principle to do it?

You MUST steal Democrats in order to win! And stealing active Liberal Democrats is the best, because they are the organizers that get others to vote with them! Take one high profile Lib Democrat away from the Democrats, and you've taken hundreds (if not thousands) of their votes!

Frankly I don't give a damn if Stormfront, the JBS and 9/11 Truthers support RP. I do give a damn if he supports them -- which he doesn't, and he has said so.

72 posted on 05/08/2009 8:50:30 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Allegra
I think Ron Paul has some great ideas on the economy, but is too "out there" on many other issues, foreign policy being just one.

I am no Ron Paul fan, in fact I have barely read, and never listened, to the man. However, I believe, and correct me if I am wrong, in fact I would appreciate it if you would give me a synopsis of his Foreign policy, that his foreign policy adheres pretty much the constitution. I believe it says in the constitution we should not become involved in foreign wars. Not to say we shouldn't have beat the crap out of Afghanistan, I agree with that one, I supported Bush on Iraq, but was never sure if that was the right thing to do, or if we even had the moral authority to go in there. I know, he was working on Nukes, but we could have stopped that by simply bombing the crap out of Iraq now and then.

What I am trying to say is: If a person is against fighting except on American soil and leaving other countries to the sovereignty, as long as their plans don't include hurting us, then he is not a "kook, but a constitutionalists.

Like I said, I need to listen and read Paul much more than I already have, but if you have any input to give me on his foreign policy, I mean facts not broad statements about kookery, I would truly appreciate it.

73 posted on 05/08/2009 8:58:36 AM PDT by calex59
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To: bluejay

Why would a treaty promoting genuine free trade need 900 pages (in the case of NAFTA) to say: “there shall be no barriers to trade between our countries”?


74 posted on 05/08/2009 9:02:55 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: zipper; Crim
I deleted my LGF bookmark when chucky went all anti-christian / whacko evolution ... You're in good company.

Ditto for me, LGF leans very much to the left now, haven't been on their site in years.

75 posted on 05/08/2009 9:03:21 AM PDT by calex59
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To: jmc813

LGF & Charles Johnson are a joke. He is about as liberal as they come.


76 posted on 05/08/2009 9:22:13 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: calex59
You keep referring to my calling Ron Paul a "kook." I kindly invite you to re-read my post. I don't see that word in there.

If you Google Ron Paul, you can find his own words about foreign policy. I'd rather you read it from him and not my interpretation.

In my opinion, though, his non-interventionalist policies just won't work in today's world and, in fact, could be quite dangerous for us. I'd rather engage the enemy on their soil and prevent wars from happening on ours if we can.

77 posted on 05/08/2009 9:36:23 AM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: PapaBear3625

No violence. Just action. We have thought about it long enough. Time to act.


78 posted on 05/08/2009 10:02:07 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Designer

Thanks. I appreciate having my perception confirmed.


79 posted on 05/08/2009 11:17:56 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: djsherin; bluejay; DoughtyOne
Interesting article here. Never heard of this guy but, I like his style.

(he mentions Ron Paul as, "a Constitutionalist with impeccable credentials for loyalty to the United States and its survival as dreamed by our founding fathers") http://www.newswithviews.com/Kress/joe28.htm

80 posted on 05/08/2009 11:19:53 AM PDT by wolfcreek ("unnamed "right-wing extremist")
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