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Little Green Footballs - The Mainstreaming of Ron Paul (Barf)
Little Green Footballs ^ | 5-7-2009 | Charles Johnson

Posted on 05/08/2009 12:39:32 AM PDT by jmc813

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To: jmc813
The GOP can keep Rush, William Krystal, James Dobson or Sarah Palin as their standard bearers for all I care.
In the historic meaning of convertism none of them are conservatives.

Run em for office LOL.

Anyone who thinks those types of opportunists expouse or even know the classic writings of the Enlightenment...Hume, Burke and Locke ect., which explains the bedrock philosophy of conservatism, probably spend too much time watching American Idol.

It is sad that there are so many undereducated and confused people...even here...who claim to be conservatives.

Best read Ron Paul...he will be a huge influence on the future of politics...even after he has passed on.

81 posted on 05/08/2009 11:19:54 AM PDT by KDD ( it's not what people don't know that make them ignorant it's what they know that ain't so.)
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To: Designer

Thanks. That’s good to know. Sounds like they try to run a tight ship. Good.


82 posted on 05/08/2009 11:27:19 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Why would a treaty promoting genuine free trade need 900 pages (in the case of NAFTA) to say: “there shall be no barriers to trade between our countries”?

Indeed. These treaties don't promote freedom in the market place - they simply write rules by which governments and multinational ag companies eliminate the competition through selective enforcement of quotas, no quotas, subsidies, no subsidies, etc.

83 posted on 05/08/2009 11:44:56 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Obama's just another word for nothin' left to lose)
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To: calex59
"Like I said, I need to listen and read Paul much more than I already have, but if you have any input to give me on his foreign policy, I mean facts not broad statements about kookery, I would truly appreciate it."

If it helps, here's a pretty good overview of Ron Paul's positions on a variety of issues.

84 posted on 05/08/2009 1:40:55 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Thanks for the link.


85 posted on 05/08/2009 1:52:56 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Bokababe

Thanks for the link.


86 posted on 05/08/2009 1:53:15 PM PDT by calex59
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To: 4rcane
What bothers me a little bit is that Ron Paul rarely bashes Democrats

If my party turned on me, laughed at me during debates, and funded Republican primary opponents against me during elections, hell I'd bash them too.

I don't blame Paul for sticking it to the GOP.

87 posted on 05/08/2009 2:43:07 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: jmc813

Johnson is still using that weak article from the uncredible TNR as some sort of “end-all” piece against Ron Paul? Lame.


88 posted on 05/08/2009 3:32:08 PM PDT by GoldStandard
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

> Why would a treaty promoting genuine free trade need 900 pages (in the case of NAFTA) to say: “there shall be no barriers to trade between our countries”?

The problem is these treaties always cater to special interests by granting them protection (for example agriculture). While I would much rather have clean agreements, I will gladly accept incremental improvements.

I will give you an example. About 18 months ago US and Thailand concluded a free trade agreement. Part of the agreement is a system which allows Americans to own up to 100% of Thai companies. (Previously maximum foreign ownership was limited to 49%.) However, this is only permitted for certain types of companies and the treaty goes to great length to specify what kinds of companies are covered by this agreement.


89 posted on 05/08/2009 4:06:00 PM PDT by bluejay
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To: wolfcreek

> Interesting article here. Never heard of this guy but, I like his style.

You now, I really am trying to find kind words to say about this article. But the only thing that comes to mind is “disconnected from reality”.


90 posted on 05/08/2009 4:15:25 PM PDT by bluejay
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To: 4rcane

Paul bashes Republicans because they lie about being for limited government, the rule of law, original intent, and family values.

Almost every Republican understands that Democrat politicians are socialists who want to undermine traditional American values. However, my experience is that even honest conservative Republicans are typically unwilling to apply principle to the actions and policies of the Republican party establishment.


91 posted on 05/08/2009 8:12:05 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: bluejay

Uhh, so you ignored all his other points? I’ll repost them for him here:

Obama wants the free market to set interest rates and determine what will be used as money?
Obama wants to loosen restrictions on the 2nd Amendment?
Obama wants the government to stay out of health care?
Obama is going to massively cut government spending?
Obama wants to phase out Social Security and Medicare?
Obama wants the states to decide all issues not specifically delegated to the federal government in the Constitution?
Obama wants to end abortion?
Obama wants out of the UN?
Obama wants to cut federal regulations and taxes on businesses?

So, Obama and Ron Paul are the same.. except for all those things, I guess.


92 posted on 05/08/2009 10:36:47 PM PDT by buckleyfan (WFB, save us!)
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To: buckleyfan

If you insist...

> Obama wants the free market to set interest rates and determine what will be used as money?

Unlike Obama, Ron Paul would like to destroy the economy via deflation, not inflation. (See the difference?)

> Obama wants to loosen restrictions on the 2nd Amendment?

I’ll give you that one.

> Obama is going to massively cut government spending?
> Obama wants to phase out Social Security and Medicare?

Good luck with these. George Bush tried his hand with Social Security, see how well it worked out for him.

> Obama wants to end abortion?

Is that a federal issue? I thought it would be one of those:

> Obama wants the states to decide all issues not specifically delegated to the federal government in the Constitution?

Please double check your notes.

> Obama wants to cut federal regulations and taxes on businesses?

Presumably, not including those involved in foreign trade and investment.

> Obama wants out of the UN?

Yes, I agree. Ron Paul would like to abandonee all allies, not only the democratic once. There are times when US should get involved.

Did I miss anything?

BTW, you do realize that there are real conservatives out there who are not crazy, who do not associates themselves with racists and who have real proposals. Why, for example, would you not support someone like Newt Gingrich? I could name several more who may have potential: Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindal, Eric Cantor or Mark Sanford. There is no shortage of talent on the Republican side.

I just noticed your handle - I assume you are referring to William F. Buckley. Is it really possible to be a fan of Bill Buckley and Ron Paul?


93 posted on 05/08/2009 11:48:37 PM PDT by bluejay
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To: bluejay

“disconnected from reality”

Why I’m I not surprised? Your reality vs other people’s.


94 posted on 05/09/2009 6:05:53 AM PDT by wolfcreek ("unnamed "right-wing extremist")
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To: jmc813

Ron Paul will be what in 2012? 77?


95 posted on 05/09/2009 6:10:25 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: jmc813
Michele Bachmann

Sounds like a rising star. Hey Sarah or Mark, don't overlook Michele when you are looking for a VP.

96 posted on 05/09/2009 6:17:12 AM PDT by Theophilus (The people who were going to buy your home got aborted 30 years ago.)
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To: uglybiker
I’ve seen Ron Paul attack GOP for their ill intentions, but never Democrats. So in reality he's....John McCain?

Not quite, more like a John McCain who likes to blame ALL of the worlds problems on America, not just many of them.
97 posted on 05/09/2009 8:24:40 AM PDT by John D
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To: bluejay

***Actually no, all countries, including United States, impose tariffs and various other restrictions on trade (e.g., land and company ownerships). The free trade agreements are what eliminate these restrictions. (Not sure about that “all” part. Possibly there might be some countries that do not have tariffs. Unfortunately, I can’t think of one off-hand.)***

From an economics perspective free trade is the status quo. Tariffs and the like are infringements and interventions. You said it yourself, all countries impose tariffs and other trade restrictions. The absence of this imposition is free trade.

***So basically, you agree that he might be a racist. You just don’t think it’s a big deal.***

I said ‘even if’. I took the worst case scenario. Anything is possible.


98 posted on 05/09/2009 2:29:29 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: anchorclankor

How are earmarks constitutional?


99 posted on 05/09/2009 3:53:08 PM PDT by j.simmons
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