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A Judeo Christian Nation
Post Scripts ^ | 5/7/09 | Tina Grazier

Posted on 05/08/2009 7:24:34 AM PDT by OneVike


President Barack Obama said in Turkey : "We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values."
Do you know the Preamble for your state?

Alabama 1901, Preamble We the people of the State of Alabama , invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution.

Alaska 1956, Preamble We, the people of Alaska , grateful to God and to those who founded our nation and pioneered this great land...

Arizona 1911, Preamble We, the people of the State of Arizona, grateful to Almighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution.
Find the quote on God from your states preamble

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: christianheritage; christiannation; constitution; god; judeochristian; judges; obama
We have all said it time and time again, Obama is NOT a Christian. He is a Muslim, he even bows down to Muslim leaders, but will give no respect to Christan leaders. We have for many years seen the courts make rulings based on their belief that our founding fathers did not want God anywhere near our government.

Well, if we are supposed to be a country who's government is by and for the people, and it is people who wrote the preambles of the US Constitution and the State Constitutions, then God is very much as part of our government as people are.

It would seem to me that, when it comes to our state and federal constitutions, the most uneducated of our society are the very ones making the laws and rulings we must live under. I am a firm believer that most of those in power have been educated beyond their intelligence and wisdom. When you consider where wisdom and knowledge comes from, it should not surprise anyone that our leaders are such fools. After all a fool has no delight in understanding, But in expressing their own hearts.

Over 3000 years ago Solomon wrote a wise proverb that we should all heed.

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. (Proverbs 9:10)

It is our responsibility to educate those who do not know the truth. If our leaders will not listen, then it's time to remove them, by any means possible.

1 posted on 05/08/2009 7:24:34 AM PDT by OneVike
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To: OneVike

obozo is a marxist mooselimb.


2 posted on 05/08/2009 7:26:19 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: OneVike; SunkenCiv; Nathan Zachary; Ev Reeman; freedumb2003; SnakeDoctor; GodGunsGuts; what's up; ..
Heads up if you want to know what your state constitution's preamble says about God.

Let me know if you want on or off my ping list.

Have a good TGIF day.
3 posted on 05/08/2009 7:27:06 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

Any reminders about what the preamble of the Federal Constitution says about God?


4 posted on 05/08/2009 7:32:43 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: OneVike
Clearly Obama is not a Christian. I am not convinced he's a muslim, however. I believe he's an apostate muslim, now atheist. If that's accurate then 1.3 Billion muslims are honor bound to kill him according to their religion.
5 posted on 05/08/2009 7:35:55 AM PDT by highlander_UW (The only difference between the MSM and the DNC is the MSM sells ad space in their propaganda)
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To: OneVike
From the 1866 Texas Constitution.

http://texashistory.unt.edu/permalink/meta-pth-6727:873

We the people of Texas, acknowledging with gratitude the Grace of God in permitting us to make choice of our form of government, do ordain and establish this Constitution.

6 posted on 05/08/2009 7:36:15 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: OneVike
California 1879, Preamble

We, the People of the State of California , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom...

7 posted on 05/08/2009 7:43:46 AM PDT by tubebender (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: mnehring

Flash for Obummer: READ THE !@#$%^&*! CONSTITUTION AND EVEN MORE THAN THAT READ THE MANY WORKS OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS SUCH AS WASHINGTON, JEFFERSON, ADAMS, THOMAS PAINE, MADISON, MONROE, FRANKLIN, HAMILTON and PATRICK HENRY! This country was founded on the basics of Judeo Christian ideas, principles and beliefs. Obviously Mr. Obummer you are not a student of history or you would not be saying such dumb things and apologizing for our country all over the place. I believe you to be a traitor to this country, Mr. Obummer.


8 posted on 05/08/2009 7:48:33 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: OneVike
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9 posted on 05/08/2009 7:57:05 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: OneVike

A real christian gets baptized.


10 posted on 05/08/2009 8:03:21 AM PDT by x_plus_one ("Salvation comes about though change in individual lives, not through the ending of unjust society")
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To: newfreep

Obama wants to take the Judeo Christian Nation and turn it into a A Judas Anti-Christian Nation


11 posted on 05/08/2009 8:09:24 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: highlander_UW

I also believe Obama isn’t religious period. When Obama said that he didn’t hear Jeremiah Wright’s racist remarks, I think he was ashamed to admit that he’s not a regular churchgoer.


12 posted on 05/08/2009 8:11:41 AM PDT by Revenge of Sith
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To: OneVike
We have all said it time and time again, Obama is NOT a Christian. He is a Muslim, he even bows down to Muslim leaders

I'm naturally skeptical, and a few months ago was willing to take him at his word for this one claim. But by their fruits you'll know them.
He's a muslim all right, in sheep's clothing.

13 posted on 05/08/2009 8:13:46 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Lady Liberty has become Kitty Genovese.)
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To: Strategerist
"Any reminders about what the preamble of the Federal Constitution says about God?"

The constitution is merely a list of limitations on government. Our Founding Document, the Declaration of Independence, places our Nation is its proper relationship to God.

14 posted on 05/08/2009 8:21:37 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: OneVike

Thanks for the ping!


15 posted on 05/08/2009 8:21:50 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: OneVike

Bambi may be a Bambi worshipper


16 posted on 05/08/2009 8:22:13 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: x_plus_one
"A real christian gets baptized."

Who baptized the thief on the cross?

17 posted on 05/08/2009 8:23:30 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: ansel12

I like that picture, I think I’ll save it to my HD. Is it your creation or someone else’?


18 posted on 05/08/2009 8:24:45 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

Wow, eye opening. Thanks for posting


19 posted on 05/08/2009 8:26:52 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: OneVike

I just grab them wherever I find them. It is an interesting picture.


20 posted on 05/08/2009 8:26:57 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: x_plus_one
I agree, not that baptism is what you are saved by, but baptism is your statement to the world that you have nailed the old man upon the cross with Christ and you are now a reborn as a man of Christ.

Anyone who does not want to get baptized does not believe in following the example of Christ.
21 posted on 05/08/2009 8:27:31 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Revenge of Sith
"I also believe Obama isn’t religious period."

Dan 11:37 "Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all."

22 posted on 05/08/2009 8:28:17 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Strategerist

I think you are thinking of the Declaration of Independence?

The preamble of the Constitution is brief and religiously neutral


23 posted on 05/08/2009 8:30:03 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: OneVike
Not listed at the above link, but found in the Constitution of the State of Colorado:

We, the people of Colorado, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, in order to form a more independent and perfect government; establish justice; insure tranquility; provide for the common defense; promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this constitution for the "State of Colorado".

24 posted on 05/08/2009 8:52:41 AM PDT by NoPrisoners ("When in the course of human events...")
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To: NoPrisoners

thanks, I’ll ad it to my personal list.


25 posted on 05/08/2009 9:03:08 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: editor-surveyor; x_plus_one
Good question, e-s. It's dangerous to put your faith in absolutes, isn't it?
26 posted on 05/08/2009 9:04:50 AM PDT by NoPrisoners ("When in the course of human events...")
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To: OneVike
Thank you for the ping, OV.

On my way to the store this morning, I heard Jim Quinn read about half of the preambles. Very impressive, and a great argument against the Godless Commies who are trying to turn the nation atheist or moose limb.



27 posted on 05/08/2009 9:53:13 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: highlander_UW

Probably why he passed on national prayer day. He didn’t want the public to see him roll out his rug.


28 posted on 05/08/2009 10:02:02 AM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Ev Reeman

A big AMEN to your every word...


29 posted on 05/08/2009 10:49:09 AM PDT by nbhunt
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To: editor-surveyor

HE was not baptised, his death paid for our sins....besides HE was the SON OF GOD, HE did not need to be baptised.


30 posted on 05/08/2009 10:52:13 AM PDT by nbhunt
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To: editor-surveyor
"Who baptized the thief on the cross? "

He was baptized with the blood of Christ, Literally.

31 posted on 05/08/2009 11:22:18 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Yes, just as we all are!


32 posted on 05/08/2009 12:54:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor
Who baptized the thief on the cross?

Maybe he got a special dispensation from He that hung next to him. I think He had the authority. This old saw comes up regularly among self aggrandizing church factions. There are plenty of stories in the Bible concerning unbaptized people who were saved, by Grace.

33 posted on 05/08/2009 1:22:20 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: OneVike

Do any of the preambles mention Jesus? I would think that would be the determinate for whether this was a Christian nation. God applies to Jewish, Christian and Muslim people.


34 posted on 05/08/2009 2:33:41 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: nbhunt

“HE was not baptised, his death paid for our sins....besides HE was the SON OF GOD, HE did not need to be baptised.”

I hope you aren’t talking about Jesus. If you are, then you need to re-read your Bible. jesus was most definitely baptized.


35 posted on 05/08/2009 2:35:03 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: Revenge of Sith
I also believe Obama isn’t religious period. When Obama said that he didn’t hear Jeremiah Wright’s racist remarks, I think he was ashamed to admit that he’s not a regular churchgoer.

I think you're entirely correct. I'm sure he heard some of it and is lying about that, but I bet he didn't attend nearly as often as he wanted people to believe because he figured no one would pay attention to the content he was listening to and he'd get credit for being "religious".

36 posted on 05/08/2009 6:45:25 PM PDT by highlander_UW (The only difference between the MSM and the DNC is the MSM sells ad space in their propaganda)
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To: ansel12
Now that is ART!
37 posted on 05/08/2009 8:05:50 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Christ did.


38 posted on 05/08/2009 8:07:21 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: nbhunt

and yet He was baptized by...John the Baptist.


39 posted on 05/08/2009 8:09:07 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: nbhunt; x_plus_one
HE was not baptised, his death paid for our sins....besides HE was the SON OF GOD, HE did not need to be baptised.

Oh contrare my friend nbhunt, Jesus was baptized. It was so important that all four Gospels record the historic event.

"John Baptizes Jesus" (Matthew 3:13)
13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to John at the Jordan to be baptized by him. 14 And John tried to prevent Him, saying, "I need to be baptized by You, and are You coming to me?" 15 But Jesus answered and said to him, "Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness." Then he allowed Him. 16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. 17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

While you are correct the He is God and did not need to be baptized, He was baptized to show obedience to the Father. Also the thief on the cross was not baptized to show that baptism is not the way you receive salvation. You receive salvation through Christ and only through Christ.

That being said, we as Christians do get baptized because He did Himself. There are two reasons we as Christians should get baptized, but neither one has to do with salvation.
1.) We get baptized because we do what Christ did to show obedience to him. As Christians we are to mimic Him, and if it was not below Him to be baptized, then it should not be below us to follow His example.
2.) We get baptized is to show the world that we are a new creature in Christ. Baptism is a public declaration to the world that the old man is dead and we are now reborn a new man in Christ.

If we are not ashamed of Him, then we will do as He told us we should. As good Christians we should want do as we are told to by His teachings. I speak of course of the the great commission in the Gospel of Matthew.

The Great Commission (Matthew 28:18-20)
18And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen
Now, if Christ commanded His disciples to baptize us, then why would you not do as Christ said to do? Remember what is written in the Gospel of Luke about Jesus warning to those who call Him Lord, Lord, but do not do as he said taught.

Build upon the Rock (Luke 6:46-49)
46 "But why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and not do the things which I say? 47 Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48 He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently against that house, and could not shake it, for it was founded on the rock. 49 But he who heard and did nothing is like a man who built a house on the earth without a foundation, against which the stream beat vehemently; and immediately it fell. And the ruin of that house was great."

So in conclusion, we are not saved by baptism, but it is a command of Jesus to be baptized as He was Himself by John the baptist. If it is good enough for God to humble Himself before men to be baptized, then we should also.

40 posted on 05/08/2009 8:45:13 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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