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Germany bans very long names
The Times of India ^ | 9 May, 2009 | Nicholas Kulish

Posted on 05/08/2009 2:33:55 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins

BERLIN: Germany is renowned for fighting inflation, but the battle extends beyond money and into the realm of names. In a split decision on Tuesday, the German Constitutional Court upheld a ban on married people combining already-hyphenated names, forbidding last names of three parts or more.

It was not the first time the court was forced to weigh in on the subject of names, which are regulated start to finish, fore to family, in Germany. This time, it was a Munich couple who decided to challenge the constitutionality of a 1993 rule limiting the names of married people to a single hyphen and two last names.

Frieda Rosemarie Thalheim, a Munich dentist, wanted to take the last name of her husband, Hans Peter Kunz-Hallstein, to become Frieda Rosemarie Thalheim-Kunz-Hallstein. The case brought Germany’s minister of justice before the court in Karlsruhe for oral arguments in February to defend the ban on what the Germans call “chain names.”

By a vote of five to three, the court refused to budge, ruling that ballooning names “would quickly lose the effectiveness of their identifying purpose,” and declined to overturn the law.

Germany takes a highly regimented approach to naming. Children’s names must be approved by local authorities, and there is a reference work, the International Handbook of Forenames, to guide them.

Germany’s economy minister found professional success despite bearing the lengthy name Karl-Theodor Maria Nikolaus Johann Jacob Philipp Franz Joseph Sylvester Freiherr von und zu Guttenberg, a name as aristocratic as it is long.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; germany; name; names
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"Germany takes a highly regimented approach to naming. Children’s names must be approved by local authorities, and there is a reference work, the International Handbook of Forenames, to guide them."
1 posted on 05/08/2009 2:33:56 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Bad news for Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern -schplenden -schlitter -crasscrenbon -fried -digger -dingle -dangle -dongle -dungle -burstein -von -knacker - thrasher -apple -banger -horowitz -ticolensic -grander -knotty -spelltinkle -grandlich -grumblemeyer -spelterwasser - kurstlich -himbleeisen -bahnwagen -gutenabend -bitte -ein -nürnburger -bratwustle -gerspurten -mitz -weimache - auuber -hundsfut -gumberaber -shönendanker-kalbsfleisch -mittler -aucher von Hautkopft of Ulm


2 posted on 05/08/2009 2:35:37 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
Pretty ridiculous thing for a government to get involved in dictating names.

No, not ridiculous, BIZARRE!

These people are mentally ill or something.

3 posted on 05/08/2009 2:36:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dfwgator

Beat me to it!


4 posted on 05/08/2009 2:36:40 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Adolf Hitler is a rather short name.


5 posted on 05/08/2009 2:37:35 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: dfwgator

6 posted on 05/08/2009 2:38:23 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Like George Frederick Ernest Albert Saxe-Coburg Gotha, Queen Elizabeth II’s grandfather?


7 posted on 05/08/2009 2:39:15 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Saiga 12 shotgun - When the Zombies see it, they'll sh*t bricks.)
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To: dfwgator

Darn! By the time I typed the name, you’d already posted it. :-)


8 posted on 05/08/2009 2:39:15 PM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad (When you're racing...it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.)
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To: muawiyah

It’s things like this that separates Britain from Europe, although those lines are beginning to smudge now.

For example, you wouldn’t want to hear about the Italian teenager, on whom the State forced an abortion against her will, because she was underaged, and her parents didn’t want her to have the child.


9 posted on 05/08/2009 2:39:20 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

What about Schickelgruber?


10 posted on 05/08/2009 2:39:32 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

There’ve been several such abortions in the People’s Republic of Maryland. They love fascism over there.


11 posted on 05/08/2009 2:41:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Pretty ridiculous thing for a government to get involved in dictating names. No, not ridiculous, BIZARRE! These people are mentally ill or something.

The "master race" doesn't want embarrassing names attached to it.

12 posted on 05/08/2009 2:41:43 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: muawiyah

How about our Congress holding hearings on College football playoffs?


13 posted on 05/08/2009 2:41:50 PM PDT by rocksblues (Sarah and Joe, Real Americans!)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Germany has enough ridiculously long words........I agree with the decision


14 posted on 05/08/2009 2:42:18 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

What about symbols like the-artist-previously-known-as-Prince?


15 posted on 05/08/2009 2:43:27 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: muawiyah

“These people are mentally ill or something. “

You can take the Nazi out of the National Socialists but you can’t take the National Socialist out of the Nazi.


16 posted on 05/08/2009 2:43:40 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: dfwgator

Gee, I wouldn’t want to be the one to tell the Saxe-Coburg-Gothas about this!
Unless they’re...grandfathered. :D


17 posted on 05/08/2009 2:43:43 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Lady Liberty has become Kitty Genovese.)
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To: rocksblues

............”How about our Congress holding hearings on College football playoffs?”.................

or on steroids in baseball?


18 posted on 05/08/2009 2:43:59 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

So much for my plans to move to Berlin and change my last name to Supercalifragilisticexpealidocious (forgive spelling)


19 posted on 05/08/2009 2:44:10 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
Johann Jakob Jingleheimer-Schmitz, Rumpelstiltskin, and Prinz Einszweidrei-Vierfuenfsechsieben were opposed.

Germans have funny names. Assmann, Assheuer, Pornschlegel, Schweinsteiger, Feldmaus, Siswanker ...

More here.

20 posted on 05/08/2009 2:44:20 PM PDT by x
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To: yldstrk

What’s next, Poland banning vowels in names? (Oh wait, they already did that) ;)


21 posted on 05/08/2009 2:44:53 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: dfwgator

I think you’re missing the “-geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung” in there somewhere.


22 posted on 05/08/2009 2:47:41 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: dfwgator
Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern -schplenden -schlitter -crasscrenbon -fried -digger -dingle -dangle -dongle -dungle -burstein -von -knacker - thrasher -apple -banger -horowitz -ticolensic -grander -knotty -spelltinkle -grandlich -grumblemeyer -spelterwasser - kurstlich -himbleeisen -bahnwagen -gutenabend -bitte -ein -nürnburger -bratwustle -gerspurten -mitz -weimache - auuber -hundsfut -gumberaber -shönendanker-kalbsfleisch -mittler -aucher von Hautkopft of Ulm

I'd like to see him fit that all in on a signature line of a regular check ;-)

23 posted on 05/08/2009 2:51:19 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

First they came for the handicapped, then the Jews, now the extremely long-named.


24 posted on 05/08/2009 2:54:05 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

"My bologna has a first name, it's F R I T Z. My bologna has a second name, it's S C H N A C K E N P F E F F E R H A U S E."

25 posted on 05/08/2009 2:54:26 PM PDT by matt1234
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
And, being Germans, of course they called this keinelangweilishenamensheitstat, thereby coining yet another mindbogglingly long German word out of four, five, six or more words.

Being Germans, they also failed to see the irony or the humor in having done so.

26 posted on 05/08/2009 2:57:52 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Actually, I just looked it up and it appears that the writer of this article left out part of that last name. According to Wikipedia, it should be:

Karl-Theodor Maria Nikolaus Noddy Johann Jacob Philipp Franz Joseph Sylvester Freiherr von und zu Guttenberg.

After all, what’s more important than that a reporter get who what when where why right?


27 posted on 05/08/2009 2:58:11 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: dfwgator

I read about a chinese couple that wanted to name their daughter “@” and the Gov’t wouldn’t allow it.

Too short perhaps?


28 posted on 05/08/2009 3:06:27 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

I will remind all and sundry one more time ... the function of government is to govern. “They” will take what “we” will relinquish.


29 posted on 05/08/2009 3:06:50 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Hope they don’t ban my barber’s name: Herr Cutter.


30 posted on 05/08/2009 3:09:14 PM PDT by Bertha Fanation
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
“chain names”

Sounds like a 50's Rock 'n Roll song...

31 posted on 05/08/2009 3:12:08 PM PDT by GOPJ (Pinch Sulzberger,it so predictably turns out,is only a liberal with other people's money.Howie Carr)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

I guess “Hitler” is is short enough for them.


32 posted on 05/08/2009 3:14:07 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

So what if Herr von Schwindt marries Fraulein von Becken. Does she call herself Frau von Becken-von Schwindt or Frau vons Becken-Schwindt?


33 posted on 05/08/2009 3:26:05 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo (Earth - Taking care of itself since 4.6 billion BC)
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To: dfwgator

You misspelled one.


34 posted on 05/08/2009 3:30:29 PM PDT by wvguy (Montani semper liberi)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins; mikrofon; martin_fierro

Ich bin ein Berl.


35 posted on 05/08/2009 3:31:16 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (AKA Cha Hen)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

A friend of mine used to make his living cutting welfare checks. One client of his agency went by a long European name like, say, Poniatowski. Then she married a Thai guy and adopted a hyphenated name like Poniatowski-Thanathan. Cut to the chase, her checks were always late and they were always getting angry calls from her because the computer form kept running out of spaces for her last name! I think my friend would have appreciated this law here, back then.


36 posted on 05/08/2009 3:34:58 PM PDT by tanuki (The only color of a leader that should matter is the color of his spine.)
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To: Charles Henrickson; MyTwoCopperCoins; martin_fierro
By a vote of five to three, the court refused to budge, ruling that ballooning names “would quickly lose the effectiveness of their identifying purpose”

Ich bin ein Ballooner

37 posted on 05/08/2009 3:37:27 PM PDT by mikrofon (Betäubungsmittelverschreibungsverordnung)
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To: Charles Henrickson

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt
Catalina Matalina Rubensteiner Wallendeiner Hogan Logan Bogan


38 posted on 05/08/2009 3:39:53 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("Mr. President, I support you but not your mission. I'm showing my patriotism through dissent.")
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

1) It’s not the government’s business to approve of what you name your child.

2) The hyphenated name ridiculousness led to this foolishness.


39 posted on 05/08/2009 3:41:09 PM PDT by Reddy
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Former chancellor Otto Eduard Leopold Fürst von Bismarck-Schönhausen would probably not have approved.


40 posted on 05/08/2009 3:42:53 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: F15Eagle

The you could move back and change it to Dociousaliexpiisticfragilcalirupus.


41 posted on 05/08/2009 3:43:51 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("Mr. President, I support you but not your mission. I'm showing my patriotism through dissent.")
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To: Jeff Chandler

Gunter Gleiben Glouten Gloeben


42 posted on 05/08/2009 3:44:05 PM PDT by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: Jeff Chandler

lol


43 posted on 05/08/2009 3:44:41 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Paleo Conservative

“Schickelgruber!”

—Curley


44 posted on 05/08/2009 3:44:56 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

I agree with this. No one should have long or weird names.

A number would be sufficient./s


45 posted on 05/08/2009 3:53:34 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The plan... 0 in power for life. At least that's what they told him.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

From the country that gives us this word: Hoechsgeschwindigkeitsbegrenzung meaning “maximum speed limit”.


46 posted on 05/08/2009 4:01:00 PM PDT by 109ACS (Humpty Dumpty Was Pushed!)
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To: mikrofon; martin_fierro
Ich bin ein Ballooner.

Even better. Touche.

47 posted on 05/08/2009 5:13:52 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Ich bin ein Tagliner.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

This man died fighting the Germans in the Great War (WWI):

Captain Leone Sextus Denys Oswolf Fraudatifilius Tollemache-Tollemache de Orellana Plantagenet Tollemache-Tollemache of the Leicestershire Regiment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leone_Sextus_Denys_Oswolf_Fraudatifilius_Tollemache-Tollemache_de_Orellana_Plantagenet_Tollemache-Tollemache


48 posted on 05/08/2009 5:15:23 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: yldstrk

Well, I think big government is a very bad thing. I don’t think they have the right to dictate people’s names.


49 posted on 05/08/2009 5:20:32 PM PDT by The Future 2012 (Would the good people like a reply?)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

DU VEIRDEST EINE KRANKENSCHWESTER BRAUCHEN!


50 posted on 05/08/2009 5:22:42 PM PDT by The Future 2012 (Would the good people like a reply?)
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