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H.I.H. Reza Pahlavi Speaks Out on Obama and Mullahs
AntiMullah ^ | May 8th, 2009 | Reza Pahlavi

Posted on 05/08/2009 11:29:52 PM PDT by FARS

ADDRESS GIVEN BY Reza Pahlavi of Iran

"Iran-US Relations At a New Cross Road" University of California – Irvine Wednesday, May 6th, 2009

Members of the faculty, students, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen:

I am very happy to be back at UCI today. It is a special privilege for me to have the opportunityof addressing you at this important crossroad in the relationship between our two countries, and the significance it has for the future of peace and stability in the Middle East.

Let me begin by saying that a good university where one can study in peace and freedom may seem common place to you. But not so for many thousands of students in my homeland whose eager young minds remain constrained and constantly shackled by a closed and dogmatic atmosphere that has been ruthlessly imposed on them by an unpopular dictatorship.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bhoiran; iran; mullahs; obama; pahlavi; reza; rezapahlavi; shah
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Clear plea to USA not to abandon the oppressed people and support the bloodthirsty Mullahs

1 posted on 05/08/2009 11:29:53 PM PDT by FARS
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To: FARS

Sides are being drawn.

Guess which side 0bama will choose.


2 posted on 05/08/2009 11:32:30 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; 21stCenturyFreeThinker; ...

Text of good speech by the late Shah’s son at Irvine University May 6th


3 posted on 05/08/2009 11:32:53 PM PDT by FARS
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To: unkus; All

At least someone with standing is telling it like it is, even if very poligtely.


4 posted on 05/08/2009 11:36:10 PM PDT by FARS
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To: FARS

Like I said; lines are being drawn. Time to take sides.

The battle is on. No turning back.


5 posted on 05/08/2009 11:40:25 PM PDT by unkus
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To: FARS

The problem with Reza is that he does not have strong leadership qualities like his father did.


6 posted on 05/08/2009 11:47:24 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: unkus

I agree, but yet still many Christians apologize for Islam. They had better wake up before it is too late.


7 posted on 05/08/2009 11:48:17 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Islaminaction

I agree, but yet still many Christians apologize for Islam. They had better wake up before it is too late.
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Agreed. And they will wake up when Islam has it’s ugly face directly in their stupid little faces. Then they will wake up and suffer a terrible fate.


8 posted on 05/08/2009 11:56:19 PM PDT by unkus
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To: FARS; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; BOBTHENAILER; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

Therefore, my suggestion is that, far from being either self assured or strong, the kind of costly aggressive policies which the clerical regime has pursued – whether in support of their surrogates in places like Lebanon, Palestine, Iraq or Afghanistan, or those which they have pursued in defiance of the UN Security Council in their dangerous search for nuclear weapons – are clear manifestations of the kind of insecurity that any unpopular regime feels when it knows that is hated by a vast majority of its own people.

9 posted on 05/09/2009 12:04:06 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: FARS

At least Iran didn’t have nukes when Carter gave it to the Ayatollah, Pakistan could have its nukes taken by the taliban geezs. I bet the North Koreans are send their techs over as we speak.


10 posted on 05/09/2009 12:08:32 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: FARS

Thanks FARS! Reza II. takes no prisoners.


11 posted on 05/09/2009 12:14:03 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to become slaves of Washington.")
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To: nuconvert; freedom44; LibreOuMort; RaceBannon; MissDairyGoodnessVT; Cyrus the Great; sionnsar; ...

Iran Ping!


12 posted on 05/09/2009 12:15:10 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to become slaves of Washington.")
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To: FARS
If President Obama’s objective from direct engagementwith Iran is to use diplomatic channels to persuade the Iranian regime to change some of its key controversial policies such as its nuclear ambitions or its various negative regional interferences, then as we have already witnessed in recent weeks, he is in for a big surprise. In fact, it is the Iranian leadership which is calling the shots and asking for the US to change its behavior, before they sit down to talk!

The true result of "dialogue without preconditions." There really are preconditions, but it's the Mullahs who establish preconditions for the U.S., while they continue with their own agenda.

Time to bring back the "duck and cover" drills.

13 posted on 05/09/2009 1:37:12 AM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: FARS
If President Obama’s objective from direct engagementwith Iran is to use diplomatic channels to persuade the Iranian regime to change some of its key controversial policies such as its nuclear ambitions or its various negative regional interferences, then as we have already witnessed in recent weeks, he is in for a big surprise. In fact, it is the Iranian leadership which is calling the shots and asking for the US to change its behavior, before they sit down to talk!

The true result of "dialogue without preconditions." There really are preconditions, but it's the Mullahs who establish preconditions for the U.S., while they continue with their own agenda.

Time to bring back the "duck and cover" drills.

(oops - mis-cued the html)

14 posted on 05/09/2009 1:39:06 AM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: Islaminaction; All

Nor his grandfather and namesake - but we play the hand given to us - and he is the only decent card available, who has any kind of standing within the Iranian populace. And can build an AntiMullah following inside the country, which would be acceptable to the civilized world.

There are of course the Mojaheddin (MEK) but they are a Marxist flavor of the Mullahs and would allow music and movies etc., but also impose social and political restrictions and while eradicating the clerics, would also eradicate many freedoms we used to have under the Monarchy.

It is up to the rest of us to help out as best we can. Not for reward or high positions but because it needs doing.


15 posted on 05/09/2009 2:17:33 AM PDT by FARS
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To: FARS

Not to forget that the MEK, unlike the Pahlavis, have absolutely no support in Iran. The MEK are (as you said) Islamo-Marxist cultist terrorists who have targetted the USA, the Monarchy and the Mullahs (after having been used by them). They were pawns of Saddam Hussein and are rightly deemd traitors.

It is asinine of Westerners to give the MEK and their front groups any whatsoever credit.

Reza Pahlavi does not insist on a restoration of the Monarchy and is the only staunchly pro-American and Western opposition leader who has any credibility among Iranians.


16 posted on 05/09/2009 2:50:41 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to become slaves of Washington.")
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To: FARS
"Clear plea to USA not to abandon the oppressed people and support the bloodthirsty Mullahs"

The people overthrew the Shah.
Those same people can overthrow any Mullah or Mullahs also, when they have had enough.

Looks to me it'll have to be the people, too. O'Bummer's not going to do a thing save for taking credit for anything positive that may transpire in the region along the way. As usual.

I do know this:
Unless people PAY dearly for their liberty?
It'll never come nor will it last when it does arrive.
Oppressors have this nasty, consistent habit of never *giving* liberty away for free.
Moreover once liberty has been secured?
Holding on to liberty's harder then winning it.

What's happening here in the USDA is a piss poor example to any others around the world insofar how one holds on to hard won liberties others secured for them.

Any advise from USA's citizens on that account would be so hollow & meaningless as to be outright laughable.
Iranians et al are in the unique historic position of demonstrating to Americans that which they average American has long ago forgotten.

17 posted on 05/09/2009 8:19:24 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: FARS

If President Obama’s objective from direct engagementwith Iran is to use diplomatic channels to persuade the Iranian regime to change some of its key controversial policies such as its nuclear ambitions or its various negative regional interferences, then as we have already witnessed in recent weeks, he is in for a big surprise.

Bingo Reza! At least someone will call it lie it is. Pahlavi/Palin 2012!
18 posted on 05/09/2009 8:24:47 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: G8 Diplomat

lie=like


19 posted on 05/09/2009 8:24:56 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


20 posted on 05/09/2009 8:43:34 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: FARS

The USA don’t owe the Islamic world a thing. If they want freedom let them spill their own blood.


21 posted on 05/09/2009 9:31:51 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Islaminaction

No one expect US troops. However it would be handy to have support (financial, political, small arms) from the outside.

The Revolution 1979 wouldn’t have suceeded without Carter and Britain turning their support from the Shah to the Ayatollah and the KGB actively subverting Iran.


22 posted on 05/09/2009 10:16:50 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to become slaves of Washington.")
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To: SolidWood

Hey SolidWood,

It is financially impossible to continue fighting the war on terror the way we are. Nation building with Muslims is no way worth the cost. While it is great to be killing terrorists abroad, nothing we do over there will matter unless political Islam is addressed here at home. Obviously our govt does not have the will do that.


23 posted on 05/09/2009 10:44:33 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Islaminaction

Our confrontations are buying time short of having to turn Islamic countries into glass covered parking lots. If unoppsed, the Islamic maniacal demons will quickly acquire EMP weponry and destory our civilization. We are slowing that eventual confrontation. Perhaps civilized peoples world-wide are beginning to realize just how insane and demnoic Islam is and will eventually endorse crushing that devilish force. But I am not hopeful given the revelation from the 2008 election in the USofA.


24 posted on 05/09/2009 10:47:33 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Landru
The people overthrew the Shah. Those same people can overthrow any Mullah or Mullahs also, when they have had enough.

Not quite.

1) Revolutions need to be armed. There was widespread gun ownership under the Shah. There is none today.

2) The Shah's security apparatus (SAVAK, police and army) were not even remotely as oppressive and reckless as the current network of secret police, million strong Baseej militia and Revolutionary Guards.

3) This was aggraveted by the refusal of the Carter Administration to sell riot gear, and crowd control weapons to the Shah.

4) There was never a general crackdown on the demonstrators. Lacking the gear to control crowds non-lethally, the army would have had to use lethal force. In the eyes of the Shah, this would have started a civil war, which would result in a Soviet Invasion (he predicted an "Iranistan", and indeed a year later the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, while the Soviet client Saddam was invading Iran). He knew that Carter would do sh*t.

Last, contrary to his image of a "iron fisted strongman", the persona of the Shah was averse to bloodshed. In his own words he was "a king, not a dictator. A dictator can kill his own people, a king can not."

The mullah regime however has no qualms about killing millions.

5) An essential part of the Revolution were Communists and Islamic Marxists financed and supported by the Soviet Union. Communist terrorists were for a decade waging guerilla attacks against Iranian and American forces. If we want to be serious about bringing down the mullahs, we need to prep some anti-mullah guerillas.

6) Before the hostage taking, the Carter Administration thought that Khomeini would maintain cooperation with the US. They thought the Shah to be an expendable madman, while Khomeini was portrayed as a Ghandi-like "wise man". Carter, Brzesinky and Ramsey Clark are all complicit in bringing to power Khomeini.

The full complicity of the Carter administration in the Revolution won't be known for at least another 20 years, when some interesting documents will be eventually released.

7) The Western MSM, especially BBC, where openly siding with Khomeini and the Revolutionaries. They carried their water all the way into the abyss. For example when supposedly "millions" of Iranians took to the streets, a massive pro-Shah counter-demonstration was ignored by the MSM.

...

If all these factors would apply today, the mullahs would have been gone since the early 1990's.

We've got to hand it to the Western left, the Soviets and the islamists that they can get an act (historical tragedy) together.

25 posted on 05/09/2009 10:48:47 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to become slaves of Washington.")
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To: MHGinTN

The world is slowly waking up to what Islam really is. I just do not know if it too late. If Europe does not end their immigration soon they are done. Then the balance goes against us greatly.


26 posted on 05/09/2009 10:51:21 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: SolidWood

We’ve got to hand it to the Western left, the Soviets and the islamists that they can get an act (historical tragedy) together.

Meanwhile the rest of the West cannot even agree if there is a threat or not. They see the weakness are quickly advancing.


27 posted on 05/09/2009 10:53:41 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Islaminaction

The sheep are more interested in Obama’s dog than in the fact that he is selling us out to the enemy.


28 posted on 05/09/2009 11:00:55 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to become slaves of Washington.")
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To: SolidWood

Lol! In your opinion what is the end game here? Leftists are clearly using Islamists to take down Western civilization as we know it. What happens when the Islamists get too strong and want it all? Will the leftists just cave to Islamic rule or look to wipe out the Muslims?


29 posted on 05/09/2009 11:10:03 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: unkus

I fear the US-Hussein Obama- has chosen/changed sides and Israel has lost its main ally. If Israel puts off dealing with Iran much longer, its air force will have to go through the American forces in the region to get to Iran. Perhaps that is already the case. There is a question whether we will just shoot down the Israeli A/C or we destroy the airfields, too.


31 posted on 05/09/2009 11:15:33 AM PDT by arthurus (ACORN + Amnesty = Venezuelan Democracy in the USSSA)
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To: SolidWood

Then the whole destroying Western civilization on their behalf was pretty pointless if they do not end up in power.

I guess that they really are self loathing.


32 posted on 05/09/2009 11:16:32 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: arthurus

You think Obama would go as far as shooting at Israeli planes? Dunno.
I guess he would rather have the Syrians or Iraqis do it. “Protecting their airspace”... gives plausible deniability.


33 posted on 05/09/2009 11:18:25 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to become slaves of Washington.")
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To: Islaminaction

Just look at Britain or Netherlands. The left is more concerned about not offending the most radical islamists (on homosexuality or women rights i.e.) than about their own “ideals”.


34 posted on 05/09/2009 11:20:53 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to become slaves of Washington.")
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To: SolidWood

Yes, I do think that. I suspect Netanyahu has already gotten the word. The next step is a US pushed UN occupation of the Golan then the West Bank and then Israel proper and enforcement of “right-of-return.” I don’t think that will come until after the 2012 re-election unless the Democrats expand their congressional margins next year. If they do then everything will speed up, perhaps explosively. I am also not one to think that 2010 will be any sort of repeat of 1994. ‘94 was largely based on 2nd amendment fears and I don’t think Hussein will do anything more to alarm that constituency before the midterms. And ACORN will be a huge factor in the midterms, the deciding factor in many races that wouldn’t otherwise be particularly close. ACORN will not be open to legal challenge any more because it has DoJ support and is essentially an arm of the Administration.


35 posted on 05/09/2009 11:49:17 AM PDT by arthurus (ACORN + Amnesty = Venezuelan Democracy in the USSSA)
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To: SolidWood

That says it all about them.

Have a good weekend!


36 posted on 05/09/2009 12:34:51 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Islaminaction; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...
I disagree, since all this via the Khomeini and other terrorist situations were imposed by Jimmuh the idiot Carter on Iran and the rest of the world, the USA has a very disctinct responsibility or debt.

Iran has spilled several million of their own people's blood because of him. Suffered innumerable tens of thousands of executions b because of the Idiot Carter, who was until now the worst USA president ever, so what O bama is doing (currently sending a high level delegation secretly to islamic iran), is irresponsible and exacerbating the damage Carter did to the whole world.

Note that not ONE Arab country invested a dime in response to oba-Hussein’s teams sent out to several to ask for money for our increasingly destroyed nation at the hands of this Oba-Hussein- Carter Khomeini WORST president usurper.

You want freedoms for yourself, ask for them for the Persians who are under the bloody feet of the Mullahs the USA imposed on them via Khomeini.

You sound rather young or were not around to know the history behind all this. No disrespect intended, just an observation based on your mindset.
cheers,

37 posted on 05/09/2009 12:35:28 PM PDT by FARS
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To: FARS

1.Why are you sending your response to me to everyone else? That seems pretty immature.

2.Here is an obsevation on my mindset. The USA cannot and is not responsible for rescuing the Islamic world. If they want freedoms let them stand up for the themsleves. Whether you believe me or not my step brother’s father is the 2nd cousing the Shah, so I have some insight.


38 posted on 05/09/2009 12:42:01 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: FARS

My mindset it that I have been studying Islam for 6 years and facts show us that Islam cannot reform and “moderate” Islam is not coming to the rescue. Also nothing we do over there really matters if we continue to let Islam advance across the West.


39 posted on 05/09/2009 12:44:23 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Landru; All
One critical analytical misconception.

The Shah refused to allow his generals permission to kill an estimated 5,000 people to snuff out the Khomeini revolution, saying (regret ably) that he would not retain his throne on the blood of his people,

the Mullahs executed tens of thousands at the very outset, so comparing their willingness to rain death on the people to retain power with a revolt against the while in his 25 plus years of rule did not execute 100 people is like comparing the Palestinian and other jihadist groups with our Western mindsets and actions.

For some 30 years, the Mullahs have killed and killed and killed to break the spirit of the populace and extinguish resistance and revolutionary fervor.

40 posted on 05/09/2009 12:47:46 PM PDT by FARS
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To: Islaminaction; All

You are entering a discussion not a private conversation when you openly post your reply on a thread instead of sending me a private comment. That then would become a two-some chat.

I sent a previous reply to you privately to help educate you rather than show up any “faults” in your reasoning, so you chose the original playing field.

I could have responded openly there too but have no animosity nor critical approach toward inexperience.

Been there and done that myself on the way to where I may be today..

Be well, be happy


41 posted on 05/09/2009 1:02:50 PM PDT by FARS
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To: FARS

That has nothing to do with the fact that you send your reply to me to everyone else in the thread. So save the spin. But I understand you need to play big man and pat yourself of on the back. Like I said immature.

You have not shown up any “faults” and you certainly are not going to give me an education on Islam.
This post is just an attack on me because you cannot refute a word a said about the “moderate” Islam fantasy.


42 posted on 05/09/2009 1:31:21 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: SolidWood
"We've got to hand it to the Western left, the Soviets and the islamists that they can get an act (historical tragedy) together."

All the more reason the Iranian, and all peoples, must arrived at the truth themselves.
No amount of shenanigans, tricks or manipulation will change their fate, only they may change their fate. The price, whether it be through blood or not, is something Americans used to not only clearly understand, but embrace.

Be that as it may your telling me things I may have known prior weren't as important as those I didn't, now.
A perspective means I learned something. Thank you. ;^)

43 posted on 05/09/2009 2:22:56 PM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: Islaminaction; FARS
"If they want freedom let them spill their own blood."

Obama and his brood have the same mindset about Americans.

44 posted on 05/09/2009 2:29:32 PM PDT by Enterprise (The Porkulus brought us economic swine flu.)
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To: Enterprise

What does that have do with the fact that Iranians need to stand up for themselves if they want freedom?


45 posted on 05/09/2009 2:50:38 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: FARS; SolidWood
"For some 30 years, the Mullahs have killed and killed and killed to break the spirit of the populace and extinguish resistance and revolutionary fervor."

30 years sounds about right. Right amount of time for the incubation to be complete. The Iranian peoples now have the answer(s) to not only why they must do what must do, but how.
As a little known American once said, "We have done so much with so little for so long. Now we can do anything with nothing". ;^)

In any event, my friend.
Yes, what you say is true and thanks to our friend, Solid Wood, I now --for the first time, incidentally--- understand this.

Learning the before hidden details doesn't change the fact the Iranian people must work hard, night and day by devising multitudes of ways to break them down and eventually win what is they seek, and, hunger for.

While other *methods* may expedite their quest, it also simultaneously plants the seeds our enemies will use to stall, even thwart an effort at liberty.

After their freedoms has been won by them, THEN we can actively move to urge this government support the new leaders & fledgling government. Not before, after.

I surely understand how hopeless what I say may at first reading.
By the same token freedom seeking Iranians live in one of the most exciting moments in their entire, storied history.

Personally I feel a certain degree of envy and great admiration knowing the kinds of peoples who'd successfully pull this off against seemingly insurmountable odds would be more than worthy of all the wonderful things that'd happen to and for them, in their very bright future.

46 posted on 05/09/2009 3:02:14 PM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: Islaminaction

Lack of reporting by the Western Media does not mean that citizens of Iran are not resisting the Islamic regime. If there were more truthful reporting I believe we would read that many Iranians have in fact already died fighting for their freedom.


47 posted on 05/09/2009 3:07:57 PM PDT by Enterprise (The Porkulus brought us economic swine flu.)
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To: Enterprise

Majid Kavoosifar... hanged for assasinating a notorious judge of the islamic regime (picture on the wall).

48 posted on 05/09/2009 3:13:16 PM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to become slaves of Washington.")
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To: Enterprise

I have relatives from there related to the Shah. The Mullahs are closer to nukes than the Iranians are from freeing themselves. Outside of them getting nukes what is happening in Iran is meaningless to us if we and the rest of West does not address how political Islam is marching across the West. Also if Muslim immigration is not ended it is just a matter of time until Islam dominates the West.


49 posted on 05/09/2009 3:16:32 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Islaminaction

I desperately wish that we had a clear thinking President. At present he seems to be favoring Iran. My thoughts are that the future points to a catastrophic war between the West and militant Islam. However with Britain, France, and Spain running scared I fear that Islam does indeed have a chance to dominate the West.


50 posted on 05/09/2009 3:32:13 PM PDT by Enterprise (The Porkulus brought us economic swine flu.)
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