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H.R. 2324--Aiming At Registering Gun Owners And Putting Gun Shows Out Of Business
NRA - ILA ^ | May 08, 2009 | NA

Posted on 05/09/2009 12:17:40 AM PDT by neverdem


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H.R. 2324--Aiming At Registering Gun Owners And Putting Gun Shows Out Of Business
 
Friday, May 08, 2009
 

On May 6, at a press conference with Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign, U.S. Representatives Michael Castle (R-Del.) and Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) introduced H.R. 2324--the "Gun Show Loophole Closing Act."  Masquerading as reform, H.R. 2324 would impose severe bureaucratic restrictions aimed at shutting down gun shows. 

The bill is essentially a re-introduction of the failed H.R. 96, introduced in the 110th Congress.  Despite changes from the Lautenberg juvenile justice amendment of 1999, on which the measure is based, H.R. 2324 fails to address gun owners' most significant concerns.  In several areas it is even more restrictive than past attempts to regulate gun shows. H.R. 2324 would create gun owner registration, massive new government red tape, and allow harassment of gun show organizers, vendors and attendees.  The bill also ignores a glaring problem--multiple government studies prove gun shows are not a source of "crime guns." 

Anti-gun Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) introduced a companion bill (S. 843) in the U.S. Senate in late April. Please be sure to contact your U.S. Representative and urge him or her to strongly oppose H.R. 2324; and please be sure to contact your U.S. Senators and urge them to strongly oppose S. 843!  You can call your U.S. Representative at (202) 225-3121, and your U.S. Senators at (202) 224-3121.



Find this item at: http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=4852&issue=


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; banglist; bradywatch; carolynmccarthy; congress; democratcongress; democrats; donttreadonme; gunshows; hr2324; registration; shallnotbeinfringed

1 posted on 05/09/2009 12:17:41 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Oh God Here we go! Socialist take over and here comes the gun laws.

They’re reasoning! Were just trying to close the Gun Show loop hole!

Give me a break!


2 posted on 05/09/2009 12:24:54 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: tallyhoe

It’s referred to the judiciary committee.
Hopefully we can kill it before it gets a chance to grow legs.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/committee.xpd?id=HSJU


3 posted on 05/09/2009 12:41:06 AM PDT by RC one
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To: tallyhoe; RC one
Oh God Here we go! Socialist take over and here comes the gun laws.

I forgot to include my thoughts. The rats took control of Congress in 2006 by running to the right on gun control and abortion. IMHO, this is just a bone to the gun grabbers in their base. It goes nowhere with yellow and blue dogs.

4 posted on 05/09/2009 12:51:43 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

If they push hard enough something’s going to pop! They are totally ignoring the mood of a whole bunch of citizens!


5 posted on 05/09/2009 12:54:10 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: neverdem

Μολὼν λάβε

They are too late. The "cow is out of the barn". They failed under Klinton and this time we saw them coming. Why do they think ammo has been "flying off the shelves"? At this point they can do whatever they damn well please (literally, there are no votes in Congress to stop them). If you don't own at least several hundred rounds for every .223 or .30 caliber firearm you own you haven't been paying any attention at all.
6 posted on 05/09/2009 1:29:10 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
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To: neverdem

Yes, good old boy Mike Castle, who never worked at a REAL job his entire life, is at it again, representing the people of Delaware.

I will remind him of the 2nd Amendment - again.


7 posted on 05/09/2009 2:04:41 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: neverdem

I am going to a evil GUN show today and its being held at the NATIONAL GUARD ARMORY. Lock And Load.


8 posted on 05/09/2009 3:42:59 AM PDT by bikerman (Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.)
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To: neverdem

DINOS and RINOs don’t understand the words:

“...Shall NOT be Infringed”.

And 4 out of 9 of the Supremes have trouble understanding these words also.


9 posted on 05/09/2009 3:57:35 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give to my country)
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To: neverdem

Don’t forget to buy some garden hose and a beagle. You’ll need those to flush these prissy-boys out of their rabbit holes when it’s time.


10 posted on 05/09/2009 4:25:31 AM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: neverdem
1.5 billion rounds have been purchased by citizens since November 2008... keep pushing rats!

LLS

11 posted on 05/09/2009 4:30:18 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: neverdem
I realize that Carolyn McCarthy has to blame guns and legal gun owners for the fact that there simply wasn't someone carrying a legal, concealed handgun to stop the monster Collin Fergeson on the LIRR train that tragic day. Because if she were to really consider the facts, she would be forced to conclude that it's because of people LIKE HER that there was nobody on that train to defend her husband and son. That SHE IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the shooting spree that took all those lives.

And it's easier for her to blame everyone and everything else, except herself.

Mark

12 posted on 05/09/2009 4:32:44 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: wastoute

I just bought 1,224 rounds of 7.62X25 Tokarev ammo for 150, including shipping, from Sportsmans Guide. It’s in a metal “spam can,” Romanian made in the 1980s. It launches an 85 grain FMJ bullet at 1,650fps.

This remaining ammo “deal” is enough reason to pick up a milsurp Czeck CZ-52 pistol.


13 posted on 05/09/2009 4:44:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" is being shipped from the printer.)
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To: neverdem
The following is a public service announcement.

Here's my tip of the month: there is still a great pistol and ammo deal out there waiting for you. If you have waited too long to arm up, or if you want one more, look at the excellent milsurp CZ-52 pistol and 7.62X25 Tokarev ammo.

You can get a CZ-52 for about $200 at any gun show or at many gun stores. You can also find them by googling around the internet. The ammo can be had for as low as 11 cents a bullet in any quantity you want. Extra mags are from $12 to $20 each.

The milsurp ammo is full metal jacket, firing an 85gr bullet at 1,600fps. These will go through car doors, kevlar helmets, kevlar vests etc like an icepick through butter. OTOH, they will also go through one bad guy and maybe hit a good guy behind him.

However, you can buy hollowpoints ("Wolf Gold" with brass shells) for about $19/50, or half the price of comparable 9mm JHPs. My test "Wolf Gold" JHP ammo expanded to .60 caliber, the same as my test 9mm JHPs.

So for $400, you could buy a CZ-52, 1,500 rounds of assorted ammo, and a few extra mags. OR, you could buy about 2/3s of a "brand name" pistol, and no ammo.

It's just a thought. This is a great bargain. The ammo is cheap and plentiful at all of the internet catalog sites. Don't wait, the libtards will soon slam the door on foreign gun and ammo imports, and the prices will go way up.

Another benefit of this pistol is that it is very accurate, with very fine sights. WIth this flat-shooting ammo, you can hit at 100 yards with ease. Downsides are brittle firing pins (buy a spare, and don't dry fire) and a decocking function that you should not trust. Just lower the SA hammer like a 1911. The safety works like a 1911, so if you are used to 1911s, it will be very easy to use the CZ-52

14 posted on 05/09/2009 4:45:31 AM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" is being shipped from the printer.)
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To: neverdem

Just keep pushing, commies.


15 posted on 05/09/2009 4:46:55 AM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.")
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To: Travis McGee

>>Downsides are brittle firing pins (buy a spare, and don’t dry fire) and a decocking function that you should not trust.

Your public safety announcement is a joke, right? There are lots of guns out there that don’t have these kinds of dangerous “downsides”.


16 posted on 05/09/2009 5:24:02 AM PDT by Bryanw92
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To: Bryanw92

The stock firing pins are made of cast steel. Most people just replace them with a $10 machined one that will outlast your grandkids, dry firing or not.


17 posted on 05/09/2009 5:35:35 AM PDT by BobbyT
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To: neverdem

Stand your ground and Don’t back down..RESIST!


18 posted on 05/09/2009 6:09:36 AM PDT by JamesA (He who hesitates is lost.)
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To: neverdem

yhank you, Tom DeLay...for the 5 years since the AWB expiration.


19 posted on 05/09/2009 8:46:46 AM PDT by gundog
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To: Travis McGee
These will go through car doors, kevlar helmets, kevlar vests etc like an icepick through butter.

"cop-killer"?

20 posted on 05/09/2009 9:23:00 AM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: Travis McGee

I love Sportsmans Guide. I’ve been a member for about 6 months. I noticed that deal on 7.62X25 Tokarev and was wondering which pistols fired it. Thanks for the info.


21 posted on 05/09/2009 10:00:29 AM PDT by matt1234
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To: wastoute
If you don't own at least several hundred rounds for every .223 or .30 caliber firearm you own you haven't been paying any attention at all. ________

Let me fix that: If you don't own at least several THOUSAND rounds for every .223 or .30 caliber firearm you own you haven't been paying any attention at all.

22 posted on 05/09/2009 10:27:43 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

1.5 billion rounds have been purchased by citizens since November 2008... keep pushing rats!
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How many reloads? Add those and probably at least triple the 1.5 billion. Then add what people already had. That would mean maybe 8-10 billion at least. That’s a lot of rounds per person. You wouldn’t even have to be a good shot. LOL


23 posted on 05/09/2009 10:29:53 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Bryanw92

>>Downsides are brittle firing pins (buy a spare, and don’t dry fire) and a decocking function that you should not trust.

Your public safety announcement is a joke, right? There are lots of guns out there that don’t have these kinds of dangerous “downsides”.
_______________________
for that price? Name them. Replace the firing pin, don’t use the de-cocking function. You can check it by putting pencil in the barrel. Take one of these to the range, it will get everyone’s attention and they will all want one.
Mcgee isn’t saying that is the best gun out there. Some people want one, times are tough and this is an affordable, powerhouse pistol and the ammo is dirt cheap and available. Try to find .45, .380 .38sp even .22LR is scarce but you can easily get 10-20 rounds of the ammo for the CZ-52 and it won’t set you back much.


24 posted on 05/09/2009 10:38:23 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Travis McGee

You forgot to include the 10$ necessary for the purchase of EAR PROTECTION. CZ52’s are louder than some high powered rifles.


25 posted on 05/09/2009 11:29:45 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: struggle

WHAT?! SPEAK UP, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!


26 posted on 05/09/2009 11:45:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" is being shipped from the printer.)
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To: mojitojoe

I guess I’m a gun snob. It is a good gun for the money (if that $200 price is still accurate. They are $375 here.) and the ammo is still available in bulk (I just checked—it is!), but when someone tells me to avoid using a safety feature, I get nervous.

If I check every day, I can still get 9mm and 45 at Wal-Mart twice a week.


27 posted on 05/09/2009 12:04:53 PM PDT by Bryanw92
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To: neverdem

These bastages don’t ever quit, do they?


28 posted on 05/09/2009 12:05:30 PM PDT by Gritty (Supporters of antigun laws don’t want to stop criminals; they want to invent new ones-Jim Zumbo)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for the public service announcement!


29 posted on 05/09/2009 2:09:46 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: tallyhoe

The loophole they are trying to close is kept open by the 2nd Amendment.


30 posted on 05/09/2009 2:17:45 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: Travis McGee

Good point. I used the 9x19 mm Makarov as my back-up weapon for years.


31 posted on 05/09/2009 3:00:19 PM PDT by TheBlueMax (International ANSWER? They don't even understand the question!)
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To: neverdem

That is very true they better not sign on to this!


32 posted on 05/09/2009 5:22:37 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: RC one

I hope, I hope!


33 posted on 05/09/2009 5:23:07 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Thank god for the second amendment!


34 posted on 05/09/2009 5:24:01 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: neverdem; Travis McGee; All

Thanks for the post/ping; public service announcement

Great thread. Thanks to all posters.


35 posted on 05/09/2009 9:40:35 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Travis McGee
Take a look at AIM

$119.95.

Have 60+ pounds worth in hand with no problems.

36 posted on 05/09/2009 9:54:39 PM PDT by Stentor (The Criminal Obama Administration.)
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To: mojitojoe
LOL Of course you are right.

Μολὼν λάβε


37 posted on 05/10/2009 3:38:48 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
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To: neverdem

But maybe they’ll get far enough to galvanize lovers of freedom to fire them next year, thus castrating Obama.


38 posted on 05/10/2009 2:20:37 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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