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Obama Reverses Stance On Immigration
The Washington Times ^ | May 09th 2009

Posted on 05/09/2009 8:43:48 PM PDT by Steelfish

Obama reverses stance on immigration

Co-opts policy he once mocked

By Stephen Dinan May 8, 2009

On the thorniest of political issues, President Obama has embraced the enforcement-first position on immigration that he criticized during last year's presidential campaign, and he now says he can't move forward with the type of comprehensive bill he wants until voters are convinced that the borders can be enforced.

Having already backed off his pledge to have an immigration bill this year, Mr. Obama boosted his commitment to enforcement in the budget released Thursday.

The spending blueprint calls for extra money to build an employee-verification system and to pay for more personnel and equipment to patrol the border.

This security-first stance is not unlike that of President George W. Bush, Bush Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, who said their immigration bill failed in 2007 because voters didn't trust the government to be serious about enforcement.

"If the American people don't feel like you can secure the borders," Mr. Obama said at his press conference last week, "then it's hard to strike a deal that would get people out of the shadows and on a pathway to citizenship who are already here, because the attitude of the average American is going to be, 'Well, you're just going to have hundreds of thousands of more coming in each year.' "

Republicans say the shift is a sign that Mr. Obama, who during the campaign repeatedly called the issue a priority, is uncertain how to move forward.

"I don't think Barack Obama understands the immigration issue. I don't know that he has spoken about it in any depth during his entire political career," said Rep. Steve King of Iowa, the top Republican on the House Judiciary subcommittee that handles immigration.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bho; bho44; bhoillegals; bo; bordersecurity; brokenpromises; bs; democrats; enforcement; illegalinvasion; immigrantlist; immigration; obama; second100days
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1 posted on 05/09/2009 8:43:48 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Is there anything left that he hasn’t changed his mind on?


2 posted on 05/09/2009 8:44:48 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Obama's not the anti-Christ, but is making the way for him as John the Baptist did for Jesus.)
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To: BlessedBeGod
Someone must have let Obama know about the unemployment problem in this country and how that's related to the number of illegal aliens still here.

Guy's been elected 6 months now and hasn't done anything about unemployment!

3 posted on 05/09/2009 8:46:22 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: BlessedBeGod

So no more ‘si si puede’?


4 posted on 05/09/2009 8:46:51 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Steelfish

The spending blueprint calls for extra money to build an employee-verification system...

And just where else will the government use this?
This is not a good thing.


5 posted on 05/09/2009 8:46:57 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

This guy flip-flops more than John Kerry...


6 posted on 05/09/2009 8:49:42 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Steelfish

Better late than never.

Of course I feared during the campaign, that he would shut the door to Mexicans and open the door to Africans. We need to make sure that Kenya or Indonesia isn’t the next country with 90% of it’s citizens in the U.S.


7 posted on 05/09/2009 8:49:52 PM PDT by DannyTN ( Impeach and Deport)
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To: Steelfish

Good sign — it means he’s reacting to the political ramifications even though he has a large majority in Congress. Hopefully that means he’ll slow down on some other issues as well.


8 posted on 05/09/2009 8:50:29 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: muawiyah

You might have it there. I haven’t seen zer0 do anything positive for the USA


9 posted on 05/09/2009 8:51:06 PM PDT by reefdiver (Freedom - From Govt. - Educators - CNN)
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To: BlessedBeGod

COLB, Socialism, Taxes, Spending, to name a few.


10 posted on 05/09/2009 8:51:22 PM PDT by TheZMan ("I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.")
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To: Steelfish

Reid said last fall that, if they didn’t get immigration passed within the first 30 days, it would probably get shelved.

This puts Obama up +1 over McCain. +2 actually. Immigration was one of McCain’s darlings. And McCain vowed to close GITMO on Day 1 of his presidency.


11 posted on 05/09/2009 8:51:33 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: BlessedBeGod
Is there anything left that he hasn’t changed his mind on?

At least he changed it in the right direction. However, no matter what the government does, they are never going to be trusted on this issue. As soon as they get their "comprehensive reform," the enforcement will stop.

12 posted on 05/09/2009 8:53:50 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Don’t buy it. Obama is a practiced deceiver. He says one thing, while he does another. Obama cut the spending on building the border fence this week, while he’s saying we need to convince the people that the border is secure.


13 posted on 05/09/2009 8:58:27 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Obama, the American Allende.)
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To: Steelfish

“O” lies.


14 posted on 05/09/2009 8:59:23 PM PDT by edcoil (Taxes only help an evil government)
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To: muawiyah

I agree.

He might have gotten a clue about how much money illegals cost in health care, too.

“money to build an employee-verification system”

Don’t we already have e verify?


15 posted on 05/09/2009 8:59:28 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (:)
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To: Steelfish

“WASHINGTON - The new chairman of the Senate immigration subcommittee vowed Thursday to take on comprehensive immigration reform in this session of Congress.”

Above from May 1, 2009. I view this supposed change in emphasis by Obama about like I viewed the same rhetoric from McCain during the Republican primaries. Just a diversionary tactic to divert attention away from the real goal which is amnesty for about 20 million illegals.

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/border/115639.php

Wonder if Obama will be asking those fine Senators to hold off on any action until the border is well secured?

Plus the fact that several posters on other threads have pointed out that Obama’s budget cuts money for the border fence, diverts resources to the Canadian border, as well as plans to end any sort of immigration raid, or workplace raid, etc.

And, this might be just a set up for some enforcement language in an amnesty bill, enforcement language that will be forgotten as soon as an amnesty is passed, just as enforcement language was forgotten in 1987, and ever since.


16 posted on 05/09/2009 9:02:23 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Jabba the Nutt
"Don’t buy it. Obama is a practiced deceiver. He says one thing, while he does another."

You bet your sweet bippi he's a deceiver!

Glad to know that you have him figured out. Now I only wished everyone else in here did!

17 posted on 05/09/2009 9:05:40 PM PDT by Hillarys nightmare (So Proud to be living in "Jesus Land" ! Don't you wish everyone did?)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Sho nuff. Plus everything he says has an expiration date. Usually measured in hours. Other then the koolaid drinkers, I cannot find anyone who trusts what he says. Says a lot about the dim party who puts up a guy who had zero trustworthyness. Hell, the Boy Scouts would kick him out for being such a weasel. Or at least give him a blanket party.


18 posted on 05/09/2009 9:08:15 PM PDT by Texas resident (Older but smarter)
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To: edcoil

“O” lies and I’m afraid that a lot of people are going to die. Just a hunch.


19 posted on 05/09/2009 9:09:13 PM PDT by Texas resident (Older but smarter)
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To: bcsco

For the AFIRE ping list.

I doubt he’s sincere about following through with an enforcement-first policy, he’s just mouthing the words. But the fact that he is forced to mouth them is a bit of a victory in itself.


20 posted on 05/09/2009 9:13:05 PM PDT by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: max americana
So no more ‘si si puede’?

Si; ahora es, "no, no podemos!" (No, we can't!)

21 posted on 05/09/2009 9:17:36 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (We have nothing to fear, except our fearful government itself.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Si Pendejo-bama!


22 posted on 05/09/2009 9:19:38 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Steelfish

I now wait breathlessly to hear what Juan McCain thinks of this latest development...

Will he support the Democrats he loves so much, or the illegals (you know, the ones who are God’s Children)?

So many ways to stick it to the Conservatives who reluctantly voted for him, so little time.

Decisions... decisions...


23 posted on 05/09/2009 9:39:26 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Collect the whole set!)
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To: muawiyah
Guy's been elected 6 months now and hasn't done anything about unemployment!

How can you say that? He's kept the drug dealers in business ...

24 posted on 05/09/2009 9:45:12 PM PDT by lakey (To ALL Congressperps - YOU'RE FIRED!)
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To: BlessedBeGod
Is there anything left that he hasn’t changed his mind on?

What mind?

25 posted on 05/09/2009 9:48:54 PM PDT by lakey (To ALL Congressperps - YOU'RE FIRED!)
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To: Steelfish

Color me skeptical, as in, I don’t believe this for one second.

The Zero and his comrades will figure out a way to give citizenship to all 20 million illegals in this country, one way or another.

Illegals are their key to creating an unbreakable Democrat stranglehold on local, state, and federal government across the country.


26 posted on 05/09/2009 9:54:28 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: lakey

he can change his mind again...look for that to happen


27 posted on 05/09/2009 9:58:21 PM PDT by bobaloobob (bobaloobob)
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To: Steelfish
Bama can say or unsay anything he happens to decide on any given day or night or hour on the hour. He won't NOT sign AMNESTY if the liberal Congress sends him an AMNESTY bill.

Everything Bama does is geared to the next election and I suspect his pollsters are showing him there IS NOT this hue and cry to make legal what is illegal. Congress is another matter... so long as they can take votes advantage with whatever legislation they can ‘secretly’ put together in the dark of night is exactly what they are going to do.... Hey lord McCain how did all the AMNESTY laboring you have done all these years work out for you????

And for you globalists who made $$$$ off your cheap labor, personally I do hope you get a huge increase in your income taxes just to help the rest of US who do NOT hire cheap illegal labors to help US pay for the health care and education costs you have hoisted upon US.

28 posted on 05/09/2009 10:02:55 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

He says one thing, while he does another.

He also is denying financial assistance to states who incarcerate illegal aliens.

29 posted on 05/09/2009 10:30:36 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: Steelfish

Obama is the master of the head-fake. Forget what he says. Watch what he does.


30 posted on 05/09/2009 11:00:37 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BlessedBeGod

“Is there anything left that he hasn’t changed his mind on?”

He promised ‘change’ didn’t he?

But to answer your question seriously, Communism.


31 posted on 05/09/2009 11:05:56 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: BlessedBeGod
Is there anything left that he hasn’t changed his mind on?

He's never changed his mind on anything "left!" I red that one of the projects he wanted to "save" on in his $17 Billion in cuts was additional border fencing. He's such a liar. I'll believe he's decided we need border security when I see some positive action, not a few token additional hirings for the Border Patrol.

32 posted on 05/10/2009 6:19:05 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: lakey

No he hasn’t. They are killing each other off along the border due to a lack of business. The Obama Depression is drying up drug income everywhere.


33 posted on 05/10/2009 7:26:54 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Steelfish; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!


34 posted on 05/10/2009 11:49:46 AM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: Steelfish

It’s Zero.

I trust him about as far as I can throw his Portugese Water Dog (not that I ever would).

He’s finding an under-the-table way to do this.


35 posted on 05/10/2009 11:53:24 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Winstons Julia
He might have gotten a clue about how much money illegals cost in health care, too.

If there's anything we know about Zero, it's that he doesn't care about money.

At least, not when it is ours and can be spent to drive us deeper into bankruptcy.

36 posted on 05/10/2009 11:56:16 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Steelfish
Ozero spends every dime he can to buy more votes for his side.Everyone else can go to hell.
37 posted on 05/10/2009 12:28:27 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Windflier
I hope I don't have to document this again,I can if need be, but the true number of illegals as of a few years ago was 38 million. 36 million illegals and 2 million visa overstays,if you need documentation I will dig it out.
38 posted on 05/10/2009 12:30:21 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: BlessedBeGod
Is there anything left that he hasn’t changed his mind on?

His own greatness?

39 posted on 05/10/2009 12:34:36 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Steelfish
"If the American people don't feel like you can secure the borders," Mr. Obama said at his press conference last week, "then it's hard to strike a deal that would get people out of the shadows and on a pathway to citizenship who are already here, because the attitude of the average American is going to be, 'Well, you're just going to have hundreds of thousands of more coming in each year.' "

Hummm. Look at what else the ZerØ’s “administration” just did an about face on…

"The Administrator acknowledges that as for human health, so too for welfare: moderate temperature increases (globull warming!) may have some benefits, particularly for agriculture and forestry over the short term, as summarized above in this section and discussed in more detail in the Technical Support Document in Part IV, sections 9(a) and 10(a).

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2247982/posts

Ok, that is two of the big four the communists were after, amnesty and cap and trade. They have in the past week started spreading justification to abandon both.

That leaves just two. Gun “control” in the form of “Inter-American Convention against the Illicit Manufacturing and Trafficking in Firearms” treaty (CIFTA): or registration laws and the rather nostalgic Hildabeast favorite… communist health “care.”

It really is looking like the communists know they are going to get a butt whipping in the mid-terms over the Ten Trillion Dollar drunken spending junket and will focus on one big issue to get shoved through before they loose the majority.

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40 posted on 05/10/2009 1:01:01 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: rodguy911
I hope I don't have to document this again,I can if need be, but the true number of illegals as of a few years ago was 38 million. 36 million illegals and 2 million visa overstays,if you need documentation I will dig it out.

If you could please, dig it out, I would appreciate it and I will save it, too. You can take your time, there's no rush. I would love to have the info available though.

41 posted on 05/10/2009 1:54:19 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: rodguy911
...the true number of illegals as of a few years ago was 38 million.

I'll take your word for it, Rod. No need to go digging for your references again.

38 million. That's the population of a whole country.

42 posted on 05/10/2009 1:55:40 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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CONG TANCREDO'S CONVERSATION WITH JUAN HERNANDEZ Juan Hernandez is a dual US-Mexico citizen---he heads up the Mexican govt's "Ministry of Mexicans Living in the US" (he was MacCain's Hispanic outreach man).

Hernandez told Cong Tancredo that the Mexican govt is plotting to increase the flow of Mexican nationals into the US..........to serve Mexico’s needs:

(1) to increase $50B a year remittances (30% of Mexican GDP);

(2) to secure US employment for an exploding Mexican population,

(3) to alleviate mexico's social instability;

(4) to force US taxpayers to provide free training and college degrees to Mexicans who are expected to return to Mexico with these skills.

Mexico desires amnesty b/c millions of Hispanics tied economically, politically and linguistically to Mexico can exert enormous influence on US....that means billions of US tax dollars transferred to Mexico. US citizens will be forced to subsidize another failed foreign government.

==================================

THE LATEST RIPOFF The bogus Mexican "drug war" is creating a new class of illegals pouring in, claiming "persecution" to gain entry. The Mexican gov't is coaching its citizens-----as a way to suckoff working class US taxpayers and collect US govt freebies. Social Security provides financial aid to these "refugees."

Keep in mind these people never paid a dime into the SS system; yet, they can collect seven years straight and get extended payments if they are politically well-connected. The SS checks to these "persecuted refugees" can amount to $1000 a month...... and more. Some are wealthy nationals whining about "persecution" in order to collect.

43 posted on 05/10/2009 2:12:36 PM PDT by Liz (Everything Obama says comes with an expiration date.)
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To: Liz
4) to force US taxpayers to provide free training and college degrees to Mexicans who are expected to return to Mexico with these skills.

If this is true then it makes me sick to my stomach. Our son graduates High School in a couple of weeks and will be attending college in the fall and we have no idea how we ill pay for it. We should not be expected to pay for illegals when we can't even afford to send our own children. What about not leaving our own children behind?

44 posted on 05/10/2009 2:30:03 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: Netizen; All
This comes from former Fed. Prosecutor James H. Walsh in his book the "Social Contract: Illegal Aliens:counting the uncountable."

Walsh is a former fed. prosecutor and US-German/Marshall Fund scholar on immigration, widely held out as an expert on illegal immigration.

This is basically a 2007 report based on data to 2005 so you can extrapolate from there:

Walsh's estimate of 38 million illegal aliens residing in the u.S. is calculated, however using a conservative annual rate of entry(allowing for deaths and returns to their homelands) of three illegal aliens entering the U.S. for each one apprehended. His estimate includes apprehensions at the Southern border(by far the majority),at the Northern border,Gulf Coast and at seaports and airports. Taking the DHS(Dept. of Homeland Security)average of 1.2 million apprehensions per year and multiplying it by 3 comes to 3.6 million illegal entries per year;then multiply that number by 10 for the 96-2005 period, his calculations come to 36 million illegal entries into the u.S. Add to this the approximate 2 million visa overstays during the same period, and the total is 38 million illegal aliens currently in the US.

45 posted on 05/10/2009 2:51:25 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Windflier
Yes it is. But the important thing about all this is that the number 12-20 million that is bandied about,libs using 12 and our side using 20 is way off. The real number needs to see the light of day.

Walsh also has other documentation that helps show just how "conservative" his figures are. And since this info is several years old, by now who knows just how many there are. Add in birth rates, a couple of more years at 1.2 X 3 million and the overall conservative nature of the estimate to begin with, and it would not be out of the realm to guess that we could have between 45 and 50 million now. Our population is 300 million, if we have an addition 45 million that are illegal just think about the strain on social systems, law enforcement, crime, etc etc. its almost incalculable.

46 posted on 05/10/2009 2:58:40 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Liz
All this and a potus bent on bankrupting the country, makes one weary as to how our republic shall survive,and if we do what will it look like in ten years.
47 posted on 05/10/2009 3:01:34 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Netizen; Windflier; All

Go here and its all there:

http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc_17_4/tsc_17_4_walsh.shtml


48 posted on 05/10/2009 3:18:04 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Netizen
Pols are sucking up to latinos----they figure they will have a permanent majority via the latin vote. Latino's "Dream Bill" is being pushed thru Congress from as far back as 2002.

EDITED Dream bill could become nightmare
LAURA INGRAHAM (LAURAINGRAHAM.COM), 2002

When most people think about the American Dream, family, hard work, God and love of country come to mind. But if immigrant-rights groups and their supporters in Washington have their way, the dream will also include lawbreaking.

A bill called the DREAM ACT, the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act bill would make it easier for states to offer in-state tuition rotes to illegals at state colleges, and also would grant students lawful residency upon graduation from high school if they had lived in the country at least five years.

The problem is that for each slot an illegal immigrant takes at a state college or university, it is one less spot for American students or for immigrants who have followed immigration laws and procedures. There is a national trend toward bending the rules to allow greater access to education for illegals.

Virginia's Republican AG Jerry Kilgore wants no part of it. In 2002 he directed VA public colleges not to enroll illegals. And get this--he also told the institutions to report illegals they discover on campus to federal authorities. The horror! Kilgore is right.

Since Sept. 11, all universities nationwide should be doing everything they can to help the ICE track foreign students, not create problems by looking the other way when illegals attempt to take advantage of benefits designated for those here lawfully. Yet our federal government is on the verge of giving state universities the green light to do just that with the so-called DREAM Act. COPYRIGHT 2002 News World Communications, Inc. COPYRIGHT 2008 Gale, Cengage Learning

49 posted on 05/10/2009 3:19:40 PM PDT by Liz (Everything Obama says comes with an expiration date.)
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To: rodguy911

Thanks so much. Copied and pasted, so its saved. :)


50 posted on 05/10/2009 3:26:07 PM PDT by Netizen
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