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Is ND Catholic enough? Obama visit prompts examination of identity
South Bend Tribune ^ | 5/10/09 | Margaret Fosmoe

Posted on 05/10/2009 11:32:33 AM PDT by wagglebee

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"I think it's unfortunate that the great event of President Obama coming to this campus has been a little clouded by that controversy," he said,

Except that there is NOTHING "great" about it.

1 posted on 05/10/2009 11:32:33 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 05/10/2009 11:33:24 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 05/10/2009 11:33:44 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 05/10/2009 11:34:07 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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“Jimenez, who said she is pro-choice but not pro-abortion, was born and raised Catholic. She’s still a strong Christian, but after four years at Notre Dame, she’s no longer a practicing Catholic.”

Hmmm?


5 posted on 05/10/2009 11:45:07 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim
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When you honor someone with obvious moral turpitude towards life, someone who obviously turns his back on the fifth commandment when it is convenient for him, it does ‘suggest support’. It can mean nothing else. To say otherwise is arrogant and self serving.

Osama Bin Laden is not Catholic. Does that change the evil in what he has done, Father Jenkins?


6 posted on 05/10/2009 11:53:52 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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pro-choice but not pro-abortion

All of these "pro-choice" types need to see how comfortable they are saying this:

"I am personally opposed to murder, rape, arson and armed robbery, but I think it would be wrong of me to tell others that they shouldn't commit murder, rape, arson and armed robbery."

7 posted on 05/10/2009 12:00:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Jimenez was a practicing Catholic as a freshman and no longer a practicing Catholic at graduation I am sure that is contrary to the ND mission statement. Maybe the devout donors need to look for a school more in line with Roman Catholic values and principles. - or is there such???
8 posted on 05/10/2009 12:03:10 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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There is a real Catholic University being developed in Florida by Domino’s Pizza founder Tom Monagham. It’s called Ave Maria University. Monagham has an interesting background...raised in an ophanage...very, very, devout Catholic and pro-lifer. ND Alumni should donate to Ave Maria instead of ND as it’s been corrupted.


9 posted on 05/10/2009 12:28:16 PM PDT by crymeariver (Good news...in a way)
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Is ND Catholic enough?

Obviously not.

10 posted on 05/10/2009 12:55:01 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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Maybe the devout donors need to look for a school more in line with Roman Catholic values and principles. - or is there such???

Franciscan University of Steubenville, OH
University of Dallas
Benedictine College, Atchison, KS
Belmont Abbey College
Christendom College
Wyoming Catholic College
Southern Catholic College
Magdalen College, NH
Thomas Aquinas College, CA
Aquinas College, TN

Just to name a few. My son starts at Steubenville in the fall.

11 posted on 05/10/2009 1:01:05 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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Jimenez, who said she is pro-choice but not pro-abortion, was born and raised Catholic. She’s still a strong Christian, but after four years at Notre Dame, she’s no longer a practicing Catholic.

“I learned more about the doctrine here,” she said. “It was kind of a turnoff, especially after something like this controversy happened, with people backing up their beliefs by saying they’re Catholic.”

Like, what a turn-off. Those repressive old people just want to ruin my fun.


12 posted on 05/10/2009 1:15:40 PM PDT by Lets Roll NOW
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God forbid anyone should back up their beliefs by citing their faith . . .

Comments like this tell you exactly where Notre Dame is today.

13 posted on 05/10/2009 2:08:47 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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“She’s still a strong Christian..”

Without being flippant, I would like to know from Jimenez what it means to be a “strong Christian”.


14 posted on 05/10/2009 2:25:47 PM PDT by 353FMG
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“..said senior Heidi Torres-Fewell, of Taos, N.M. —Snip— “He’s not coming to speak to us about political views.”

Hey Heidi, are all ND seniors as naive as you? Your parents certainly wasted their good money on you.


15 posted on 05/10/2009 2:32:08 PM PDT by 353FMG
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Father Jenkins can still save the day and all embarrassment for the university by:

1-Removing the statue on the dome and the mural.
2-Disclaiming the Catholic origins of the University.
3-Renaming the school.
4-Not allowing priests to wear the Roman collar at graduation ceremonies.


16 posted on 05/10/2009 2:43:25 PM PDT by 353FMG
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IN his me too zeal to faun all over the first black president, Fr. Jenkins grossly "misunderestimated" the zeal of Catholics and their continued belief in the teachings of the Church Fr. Jenkins is supposed to represent.

In the past ten years or so, the good priests at Notre Dame seem to have forgotten how to be Catholics themselves when they fired Joe Moore telling him he was too old, or when they humiliated George O'Leary after themselves failing to do a background check on his resume, or on again humiliating one of their own, Paul Hornung, who merely pointed out the obvious in perhaps an inarticulate manner, or on how they treat alumni and fans at football game tailgate parties. None of those are moments of which to be happy. I am not proud of the leadership of my alma mater and it isn't just over the Obama invitation.

17 posted on 05/10/2009 3:08:29 PM PDT by irish guard
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18 posted on 05/10/2009 4:33:57 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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"Moreover, fellow university presidents have told me that their bishops have told them that in fact it is only Catholic politicians who are referred to in this document."

So, why didn't you ask YOUR OWN bishop??

19 posted on 05/10/2009 4:37:31 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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And why hasn’t a SINGLE BISHOP publicly stated this?


20 posted on 05/10/2009 4:41:42 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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