World War 2: The debate goes on

Pravda ^ | 11.05.2009 | Stanislav Mishin

[americanophile]

...whatever. commies.

[SpaceBar]

Myth 6: Pravda only prints the truth.

[Moose Burger]

So, Pravda being Pravda, uh?

[BruceysMom]

Bombings would come in 3 waves, first with iron bombs, in which one in four had a variable timer detonator that could explode up to a week or month or longer later to kill returning civilians. Once lots of ruble was created, phosphate fire bombing started. A fire storm was created that would reach up to 6km into the air, sucking oxygen out of bunkers or incinerating the civilians hiding, from the heat of the fire storm. Finally a wave of anti-personal bombs to catch fleeing civilians, fire crews and medical staffs. These would continue for up to three or four days over an individual city. Then there are the million or so German troops who died in open fields, under the elements, after surrendering to US and French forces. Instead of POW camps, they were taken to open fields, surrounded by wire and left to freeze. Others were worked to death. This continued well into 1946. If America had been as diligent in exterminating our enemies in every engagement or "police action" ever since, the world would be a better place. Sniff, sniff. Ozone, I smell ozone.

[SpaceBar]

I had a professor in college who was a youngster in a Nazi occupied Hungarian village. He said that the German soldiers were comparatively kind. When the "liberating" Russians came through they drank like fish while raping and pillaging with abandon.

[MediaMole]

Why is so much crap from Pravda being posted on a supposedly conservative site?

[The KG9 Kid]

I am reading Eisenhower's Crusage In Europe right now.

This Pravda piece is a pile of crap.

[Brad from Tennessee]

[Simply put, the West never had the stomach for the casualties that were taken by all sides of the Eastern Front. . .]

True enough. If we had a leader like Hitler or Stalin we would have mutinied and hung them from a lamp post.

[Tailgunner Joe]

Stalin murdered more Russians than the Nazis did.

[ChicagahAl]

The message is this:

America is in decline, while Mother Russia retools its nuclear arsenal. America is becoming weak, while Russia's power grows, through its alliances with countries like Iran. Someday soon, Russia will challenge America. America has no more stomach for war. Russia will fight to the death. Don't even bother to engage us, America. You might as well just surrender up front.

That is the purpose of this psyops piece.

And unfortunately, the US government has been taken over by Fascists, Communists, Internationalists and Thugs.

WWIII is going to be really nasty.

If the Øbamanistas disarm us, we may have to fignt with kitchen knives, frying pans, and maybe baseball bats.

I'm ready. Screw a bunch of Lefties.

[Darkwolf377]

Whenever I see something like this I always think "Russians died for Russia, Europeans died for Europe and Americans died for all of them."

As someone posted above, Whatever, commies...

[KingNo155]

Such is the thinking of those enrolled in state schools; ie Public education. If one of You could be so kind please remind Stanislav Mishin WWII ended 48 years ago we know the pre-history and the outcome.

[Steve Van Doorn]

By and large Pravda is much better then the NYT and most main stream with the truth. I do not mean that as a joke either.

[Mr. Mojo]

So true. The Russians never did have the stomach for deposing their homegrown dictator (Stalin) who killed tens of millions of their own countrymen. They just submitted to his will, like good little commie comrade automaton pansies.

[The Duke]

Nobody's stopping these other nations from writing their own history books.

Lending credibility to Pravda about European history feels a lot, though, like lending credibility to Al Gore about climate science....a little ridiculous.

[Smokin' Joe]

Let’s not forget that Hitler and Stalin were chums until the Germans invaded, either.

[Tailgunner Joe]

[Smokin' Joe]

It is convenient how the Pravda piece ignored Ford factories and convoys to Murmansk, too...

I met a Russian on an oil rig a few years ago. He said the Russian people longed for a ‘strongman’ to lead the country. Although I viewed part of that as indoctrination, they regarded Stalin highly because he was just that—a strong man. There was no guilt because of one who was seen as a saviour to the Motherland.

(The Company Hand was of Ukranian ancestry: that Russian guy was transferred out pretty quickly.)

I think that general psychology is still active and pervasive among socialists/Marxists, where at least some of the masses long to be parented/led/protected by the State. It cost them, though, with military units which were far from autonomous, and suffered from a lack of individual initiative when officers were killed.

American troops, despite the current trend of civillians second-guessing combat soldiers, still have an advantage of being able to act effectively in the absence of command and control—something we had better keep.

[DieHard the Hunter]

As with all monstrous lies, there is a grain-or-two of truth in this piece, without which it would be laughable.