Nazi Generaloberst Heinz Guderian and Soviet General Semyon M. Krivoshein, oversee a victory Parade together.
Posted on 05/10/2009 11:52:38 PM PDT by pobeda1945
HUH???
You are right, the second and third points are correct.
I'll pass on #1, but there is more than a grain of truth in the rest of the piece.It was all OK, tho, because we had a Democratic administration and we were allied with the Soviet Union </sarcasm>.
- most of the German casualties were on "der Ostfront" - the Eastern Front. And most of the Allied casualties as well. Simple historical fact. American/British troops killed on the Western Front were/are just as dead as any Russian casualty, but there were a lot of Russian casualties.
As General Patton pointed out, of course, the objective wasn't to take casualties but to inflict them . . . a point that sometimes seemed too subtle for Stalin's people, who had some "undesirables" to dispose of.
- There were plenty of casualties taken by the Australians and other Commonwealth countries as well, in the Pacific as well as elsewhere.
- American bombers used the Norden bombsight, and, although it was undoubtedly a fine instrument, it could not in the nature of things achieve the accuracy claimed for it. Allowing for airspeed and altitude is relatively straightforward, but the distance traveled from release point to impact point is critically dependent on the initial vertical velocity of the bombs when released. The bombsight had to assume that vertical velocity was zero - but if it was off by 32.2 feet per second, the time the bomb would take to impact would be off by a whole second. And at about 240 mph, say, that would be a range error of 350 feet. About the distance from one goalpost on a football field to the other. Throw in the altitude error and the airspeed error and the windage error and the sighting error, and the practical accuracy is not all it was cracked up to be.
And then there is there is target identification errors plus what you do when the target is obscured by clouds - and the fact that the British bombed at night. So WWII bombing was hardly surgical. We would certainly consider it a war crime today.
Not to speak of the nightime firebombing raids against Japanese cities, with antipersonnel mines included to suppress the efforts of firefighters, and ultimately the nukes.
And mostly because they started it.
Once they’re in power (elected) that might be hard to do.
Commies still suck.
Sorry friend, I don't see that happening outright. I see it as the "boiling frog" scenario.
Did someone just turn up the heat?
I know an old German from Romania. His family had been there for generations.I’m sure he wouldn’t agree with the Russians being benevolent liberators...
“If we had a leader like Hitler or Stalin we would have mutinied and hung them from a lamp post.”
Why Obama is still in power?
What the fu..oh...it’s Pravda. Yep. Russia won World War II all on its own. I’m going to go make coffee, let the dogs out.
What’s with all of the old commie regurge?
I’m confused, is this from the New York Times??
Almost every non Jew in Eastern Europe prefered the Germans to the Soviets.
The war against Japan was decided by the respective navies and the naval war against Japan was almost entirely an American enterprise. The navies determined where the armies could go and how they were supplied. With the Imperial Navy defeated, Japan was defeated.
Boil it down.
Would the war have eventually been won without the Americans, their navy and their industrial power?
No.
Would the war eventually have been won without the Soviets?
Yes.
> By and large Pravda is much better then the NYT and most main stream with the truth. I do not mean that as a joke either.
Yup. I agree.
And Al Jazeera is better than CNN and all the rest of the MSM television broadcasters, FOX included. And I do not mean that as a joke, either.
Things have come to a pretty pass indeed when we have to rely on the enemy’s media outlets for relatively truthful news reporting.
The biggest mistake was made 70 years ago when Stalin wasn't satisfied with killing millions of Russians through his tyranny so he then killed millions more Russians through his diplomatic stupidity. There's much to be admired in the Russian people's achievements in that war, but there is nothing admirable in that paper misusing history.
That's a good first thought, however, we post stuff from our on media and it lies just as much, especially under zero.
gotta give ‘em number 3...
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.