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Is the GOP Lost?
Human Events ^ | May.11, 2009 | Jed Babbin

Posted on 05/11/2009 7:49:21 AM PDT by Reagan Man

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To: Pessimist

But – but JEB and MIT have a BETTER IDEA!
· By all means, let’s have the conservative movement “…leave Reagan behind…” and invent some sappy, empty phrases — like “Hope” and “Change” —
that the ACORN morons can get a grip on and they’ll flock to the GOP.
Here are some that might work:
WHAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS IS MORE BUSH!
A CHICKEN IN EVERY POT.
2 CARS IN EVERY GARAGE.
A FREE LATE-TERM ABORTION FOR EVERY UNWANTED PREGNANCY.
A GAY BABY-SITTER OR TEACHER FOR EVERY CHILD.
FREE MONEY FOR EVERYONE.
DEFICITS ARE OUR FRIEND.
MORE LIKE THE DEMOCRATS THAN THE DEMOCRATS.
WHAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS IS MORE MUSLIMS.
KISS A TYRANT — KICK AN ALLY.
A FREE ILLEGAL HISPANIC HOUSEBOY IN EVERY HOME.
Yeah, that’s the ticket. Let’s hurl ALL the traditional and time-tested values on which America became, in under 2 centuries, that shining city on a hill, a beacon of freedom and a world leader over the side to appeal to the ravening masses of MTV, VHI, government school indoctrinated imbiciles that ACORN inticed to the polls with a pack of smokes and a pint of Ripple.
Sounds like a HELL OF A PLAN TO ME!!!
The late Congressman Larry McDonald frequently reminded us that “If you don’t stand for SOMETHING you’ll fall for ANYTHING!”
He must have known the Obama voters.
Feel free to add YOUR suggestions.


21 posted on 05/11/2009 8:49:20 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (If you don't stand for SOMETHING you'll fall for ANYTHING!)
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To: eCSMaster

But it is Bush’s fault, not solely the last one we had, as well as congress for going along with the seemingly fixed notion that states as consenting entites in granting the Federal government powers beyond those delineated in the constitution has been entirely dispensed with.

It was never intended for the Federal government to go running roughshod over state governments and thus individual liberty whenever it pleases, regardless of issue it is intending to solve. Yet, the Republican party appears to have endorsed this shortcut through the national political process whole heartedy, attempting to achieve its own goals in the same manner that Liberals use to achieve theirs — by erroding constitutional principles to where we as individuals have little protection from the whims of Federal politicians and national political winds of various shapes and sizes regardless of which party is in power.


22 posted on 05/11/2009 8:50:20 AM PDT by dajeeps
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To: kralcmot
Libertarians seemed too kookie but maybe that’s all we have.

Libertarian Party Platform 2004:

Immigration
The Issue: We welcome all refugees to our country and condemn the efforts of U.S. officials to create a new "Berlin Wall" which would keep them captive. We condemn the U.S. government's policy of barring those refugees from our country and preventing Americans from assisting their passage to help them escape tyranny or improve their economic prospects.

Transitional Action: We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.

23 posted on 05/11/2009 9:07:57 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

Yes it is lost. Bbefore Bush the republicans but for a couple of issues were somewhat libetarian in their platform . And they were law and order. And they were fiscally more conservative than the dems. What are they now? They are the party only of anti union anti gay. They have lost broad appeal giving up core values.


24 posted on 05/11/2009 9:25:12 AM PDT by rsobin
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To: marron; Issaquahking
One of the few conservatives we could have done great with would have been Duncan Hunter.

The man ran and nobody noticed, in other words it was already tried.

Duncan Hunter is retired, he spent 28 years as a congressman in a safe district, he voted right but never made an impression on anyone. Hunter never ran for office outside of his district, he never wrote articles or books, no one outside of his district including you probably had ever heard of him until he ran for the presidency in 2008 so that he could use the funds and the name recognition to insure that his son kept his seat in the family.

Duncan was my congressman, he is a great guy and a great congressman but he is not a charismatic leader of any movement, he was never a player in California politics, you saw the biggest impression that he ever made and you saw that he couldn't attract any attention, he finally endorsed Governor Huckabee, turned the 28 year Hunter seat over to his son and then retired.

25 posted on 05/11/2009 9:28:35 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

Yes , Bush was a turd. A turd chip off the old turd block , his old man.


26 posted on 05/11/2009 9:42:31 AM PDT by RED SOUTH
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To: rsobin

“Bbefore Bush the republicans but for a couple of issues were somewhat libetarian in their platform .”


Conservatives are conservative, not liberal.

Libertarian Party Platform:

Throw open the borders completely; only a rare individual (terrorist, disease carrier etc.) can be kept from freedom of movement through “political borders”.

Homosexuals; total freedom in the military, gay marriage, adoption, child custody and everything else.

Abortion; zero restrictions or impediments.

Pornography; no restraint, no restrictions.

Drugs; Meth, Heroin, Crack, anything new that science can come up with, zero restrictions.

Advertising drugs, prostitution, pornography; zero restrictions.

Military Strength; minimal capabilities.


27 posted on 05/11/2009 9:43:29 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

you forgot the rest of the libertarian platform

few if any taxes

no govt. schools

all the guns you want

little if any govt.

few if any business regulations

no emminent domain


28 posted on 05/11/2009 9:55:48 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue

I won’t turn my back on God, America, and Conservatism for a tax policy and it wouldn’t matter anyway.

In the real world no people or nation would survive the childish fantasy of the libertarian party.

The original Americans would fight to the death to block the libertarian party and their bizarre anti human theories.


29 posted on 05/11/2009 10:04:00 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: dirtboy
As you suggest, the TEA Party movement is at its core a middle-class movement and one that has rekindled a spirit of individual action that will be essential to reversing the rising tide of socialism and state corporatism in America.

And yet, for the movement to succeed, it will require a larger and more coherent organization that will attract a greater number of citizens, and act both as a magnet and as a clearing house for ideas, strategies and tactics.

In the past, the Republican Party would have served this role, but has presently abdicated its former influence in pursuit of a disastrous, rootless, value-free centrism. And in this respect, what the GOP requires is not "rebranding" - as though it were a commodity to be marketed like washing machines and cell phone providers.

What the party does need is a renewal. The GOP's rebirth will herald itself only by a conscious decision to once again promote a coherent set of core ideas, and - this is equally crucial - to declaim others. This means deciding that some things are right and some are wrong, that some things work and others do not, and choosing to accept the consequences of that decision. It means no longer trying to be all things to all people and winding up being nothing to no one.

A large segment of the American people are crying out for such leadership today, and finding none. The world of our childhoods and own dreams is slipping from our grasp, sinking beneath a sea of taxes, red ink, regulation, and government-approved social decay.

In this hour, a New Traditionalism waits to be born. Who among us will lead the charge?

30 posted on 05/11/2009 10:11:41 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: andy58-in-nh; okie01; Shermy
In this hour, a New Traditionalism waits to be born. Who among us will lead the charge?

I think at this point we need ten thousand leaders. We need to articulate to our family, friends and neighbors just what is in store if they do nothing - and basic steps that learn from the past mistakes of the left AND the right. And to develop basic policy concepts to stabilize the private-sector middle class, such as shrinking government jobs, encouraging entreprenuership while still providing needed regulation for the financial masters of the universe that helped dig this hole we are currently in - while avoiding pie-in-the-sky platitudes - that it will take a lot of hard work to reverse the current course of events.

A LOT of people sense what is going on but don't follow politics and economics enough to start to grasp the next steps. And it HAS to focus on preserving the middle class - a coalition of conservatives and Blue Dog dems and small-'l' libertarians, IMO, can find enough common ground over middle-class issues to form the critical mass for an electoral majority.

Once the movement gets started, it will attract those with political skills and ambitions, as all grassroots movements do. The trick will be to steer them, and not let them hijack us.

31 posted on 05/11/2009 10:22:57 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
And it HAS to focus on preserving the middle class...

Squarely on target.

The history of socialism clearly reveals that:

1. The super-rich and powerful will remain super-rich and powerful...by essentially forming a partnership with the regime.

2. However, the merely rich are unable to defend themselves...and get wiped out.

3. The middle class disappears. There is a reason why Marxist teaching calls for the elimination of the bourgeoisie.

4. The lower class gets a lot of new neighbors-- but little else.

32 posted on 05/11/2009 3:15:18 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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