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Former Catholic head of Milwaukee admits he's gay
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hSNbP3y2gZhBELVqCr9jQxAjChpgD9849LDG2 ^

Posted on 05/11/2009 7:27:29 PM PDT by traumer

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To: SQUID

Oh and btw, it’s really easy to come up with that number when you say, “ There are loose statistics out there because many priests do not want to reveal their sexual orientation. Some have talked, but remain in the closet.”

Time magazine is going to find the stats that work.


101 posted on 05/12/2009 8:13:20 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: VermiciousKnid

I will!


102 posted on 05/12/2009 8:13:58 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom
You just don't get it do you? You pick Time to make your point but you leave out the priest who agrees with me.

The fact is, even if you pick the lowest number out of all these statistics you still have a disproportionate number of gays in the priesthood. Even if you cut the lowest number IN HALF it's STILL a disproportionate number. I just picked the middle of all these projections. Fine, I'll give you even half of the lowest number. Now what? No more issue?

103 posted on 05/12/2009 8:19:49 AM PDT by SQUID
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To: netmilsmom

You are correct. However, that does not address those who are already in.


104 posted on 05/12/2009 8:21:21 AM PDT by SQUID
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To: netmilsmom
Thank you for a good discussion. Please know that I am not trying to be mr right. I just want to talk about a tough subject.
105 posted on 05/12/2009 8:24:44 AM PDT by SQUID
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To: netmilsmom

I’m a pretty plain-spoken person, so I would probably tell the ladies of the parish, “You’re not following the Catholic model in the way you run the parish - you’re running it like a Methodist Ladies’ Aid. That’s scaring Catholics away.” And as they stared at me with their mouths at half-cock, I’d add, “Try letting the priest run the parish. It’s his job.”


106 posted on 05/12/2009 8:37:08 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Straight Vermonter
Wow! That's awesome!

I assume you have a straight-up faithful bishop and good priests - that attracts seminarians like nothing else.

107 posted on 05/12/2009 8:39:48 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Gay State Conservative

“Just another reason why *all* Roman Catholic priests,not just some,should be allowed to be married.”

Agree. The celibacy thing is a man-made “law”, i.e., not found in Scripture. If the law can be made by man, it can be rescinded by man. Celibacy isn’t normal, and it’s wrong to demand it.


108 posted on 05/12/2009 8:47:58 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Piper Palin has more business experience than Obama; she has a lemonade stand.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

>>- you’re running it like a Methodist Ladies’ Aid.<<

They would have smiled. That’s what they were shooting for.


109 posted on 05/12/2009 9:02:11 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: SQUID

The Vatican is addressing the subject.
I will leave it to them.


110 posted on 05/12/2009 9:03:28 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: nickcarraway

Weakland probably recognizes the nearness of high school boys.


111 posted on 05/12/2009 9:06:01 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Gay State Conservative
That would not "straighten" out Weakland or any other clerical faggot, but would have just provided a betrayed wife (and even a child or two) to be devastated by lavender adulteries of her clerical rump-ranging hubby. Enemies of the Church would have even greater field days though. We would still have the child abuse lawsuits and and then a whole new reptilian form of lawyers specializing in scandalous priestly divorces, publishing depositions and discovery materials. Weakland is a reason to go on a permanent ongoing seminary search and destroy mission targeting attempts by faggots to sneak into the priesthoods and nuclear defrocking for any who manage to sneak though to ordination.

Normal married men, away from their wives for a month, do not go lusting after the newspaper boy.

112 posted on 05/12/2009 9:15:38 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: traumer

Please. Everyone knew that Rembert was lavender. It’s an utter disgrace what he did to that diocese.


113 posted on 05/12/2009 9:20:34 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: lightman
In the middle ages homosexuality among the clergy was a capital offense, administered by drawing and quartering.

How the 6th Century Church handled Sex Abuse (warning: graphic)
114 posted on 05/12/2009 9:23:54 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
We also don't need divorce scandals affecting normally male priests. Anyone who simply must marry AND be a priest has the Eastern rites of Catholicism available.

Read Goodbye, Good Men which details the active recruitment of lavender queens to the priesthood and the active suppression of vocations among many normal males. Talk to a few normal young men in the priesthood and there are plenty of them. The quality of applicants would rapidly decline and the stability of the priesthood generally would suffer. In a sex-saturated society, we are invited by many to drink the Kool-Aid that everyone simply must be just another bunny.

115 posted on 05/12/2009 9:25:15 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Gay State Conservative
My point is that if priests were allowed to be married there'd be more than enough normal applicants and the pervs would be shut out.

That premise isn't even remotely true. Orthodox priests are allowed to be married, and yet they're having a vocations shortage as well. And based on my limited knowledge, they have pedophilia problems as well...
116 posted on 05/12/2009 9:32:46 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: Gay State Conservative; AnAmericanMother
You may be overflowing with applicants in your neck of the woods but I believe the national...and worldwide....picture is *much* more bleak.

Sure, but that's because we still have too many 'Weakland' types in the episcopacy. That is changing.

Our parish is more like that of AnAmericanMother--orthodox, holy, excellent priests, motivated youth-group, at least three seminarians, and many more in the pipeline.

The answer to the problem is an easy one. More holiness = more priests.
117 posted on 05/12/2009 9:37:32 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: BlackElk
We also don't need divorce scandals affecting normally male priests.

That's true.But define "scandal".And priests wouldn't be allowed to divorce any more than "ordinary" Catholics are.Annulments may be granted in some cases as happens with some "ordinary" Catholics.

Anyone who simply must marry AND be a priest has the Eastern rites of Catholicism available.

So Latin rite countries will either have no priests or nothing but homosexual priests in 10-20 years?

Read Goodbye, Good Men which details the active recruitment of lavender queens to the priesthood and the active suppression of vocations among many normal males.

OK...so then the Holy Father himself needs to step in and rectify this.

Talk to a few normal young men in the priesthood and there are plenty of them.

I'm sure there are normal men (young and old) serving as priests today.But I'll wager that,in this country at least,they represent a small percentage of the total.

118 posted on 05/12/2009 9:42:09 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: SQUID
The Catholic Church has as much as 33% to 50% homosexuals in their preisthood and higher.

Cite your reference or withdraw your bogus stat.
119 posted on 05/12/2009 9:42:17 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: BlackElk

What about zero tolerance?


120 posted on 05/12/2009 9:49:49 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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